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[SPEAKER_08]: Welcome to our show.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Josh Roca.

[SPEAKER_08]: And Rob Speedway.

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, Rob.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's a special genre episode.

[SPEAKER_08]: Now, here's Josh and Rob.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's funny.

[SPEAKER_05]: When it's 10 30 ish, you know it's time for a jar episode of the Marco Marishno.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this the last jar episode?

[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we'll see.

[SPEAKER_05]: People have to tune in and find out.

[SPEAKER_05]: But you know, all the jar heads, they will love it no matter what.

[SPEAKER_05]: because it's just going to be great content.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I'm making any sense at all Josh, I can't see.

[SPEAKER_05]: I've never done a broadcast with my eyes dilated before.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you had the eye doctor, what, first in this morning?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, eight, forty five, eight, forty five.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you would think an eye doctor would want their office easy to spot, but it was hidden behind like a foresty Glen of trees.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I drove by it like four times before I could get there.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they kept me a while.

[SPEAKER_05]: They were obviously in no hurry.

[SPEAKER_05]: I hate and to test having appointments before the show because if something goes wrong the whole time you're worried.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's always stress.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but do my eyes look zombie like I can barely see myself.

[SPEAKER_05]: not that I I'm not let me see you know what people think I'm just saying I went to the eye doctor would in fact it's just me strung out on drugs right you dial it yourself every Thursday every day I'm a great dilator we are your dilation station.

[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, so I had to do that this morning.

[SPEAKER_05]: I had a lovely attendant that greeted me there And she went through all the stuff and you know you hear all the same thing you're gonna feel a little bit of pressure And they blow that air in your eye.

[SPEAKER_05]: She had a great she's from Georgia.

[SPEAKER_05]: I really liked her accent and then The doctor how was the hot air balloon the hot air balloon?

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what you got to stare at right.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, it was a farmhouse

[SPEAKER_05]: with a long fence.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, I mean, nothing but the best.

[SPEAKER_04]: I guess so.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a I went whatever six months ago and it was still a hot air balloon and it was a painting and oil painting.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now when you did your eye test, I did horribly at the letters.

[SPEAKER_05]: Every O was a cue.

[SPEAKER_05]: Every cue was an O. F's look like P's the whole deal.

[SPEAKER_05]: Did they do with you when they were checking your eyes a pinhole test?

[SPEAKER_05]: I had never seen this before.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know they give you that thing to cover your eye, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: So you can do each eye, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: This thing had like a slide thing that would cover the whole with a bunch of little pin holes in it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you look through one of the pin holes and then you do the same test again and your vision gets better if you look through a pin hole.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I asked Scarlet O'Hara, my lady.

[SPEAKER_05]: I said, why does that happen?

[SPEAKER_05]: And she says, well, it's sort of like a mechanical simulation of squint in your eyes.

[SPEAKER_05]: I said, oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: But if you wouldn't think that looking through like a little hole would actually make your vision better, but I could read the letters like two,

[SPEAKER_05]: But you know how they go in stages?

[SPEAKER_05]: I was able to go in additional two stages with the pinhole test.

[SPEAKER_04]: But you'd never see that.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, it forces your eye to focus or something.

[SPEAKER_05]: Something.

[SPEAKER_05]: But either way, the doctor was very excited to tell me that if my eye was an M&M, a chocolate covered, you know, candy coated chocolate on them, that my chocolates okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: But my cataracts are on the candy coating.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's good.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: You would be going to a much bigger doctor if the chocolate inside of the problem.

[SPEAKER_05]: Not necessarily.

[SPEAKER_05]: You see age related, uh, age related, uh, cataracts invariably happen in the chocolate.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's the most common kind of mine.

[SPEAKER_05]: See we're teaching people that happen in the chocolate.

[SPEAKER_05]: You don't want to necessarily be in the chocolate, but minor candy coated cataracts that is CCC.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you want to know the business,

[SPEAKER_05]: So my candy coated cataracts can be brought on by multiple features, which include family history, diabetes, you know, I've battled it in the past, and also occasional steroid use will prompt it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I've had steroids because of my years at the gym.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, actually no steroids.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was on last year to defeat my cough.

[SPEAKER_05]: So all of this made sense why I don't have my, my, I have candy-coated cataracts and I'm not in the chocolate.

[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't know if you remember when I had my first I exam and they brought in the slicky boy doctor.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a sales pitch.

[SPEAKER_05]: that's all it was and they quoted big prices and insurance was never mentioned and at this place they said well insurance doesn't like to cover laser surgery because they think that is like an upgrade but with your current insurance for no cost we can do a manual cataract surgery which is you

[SPEAKER_05]: that's how it was invented.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm okay with that.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we won't use the laser, but we can do it there by hand and do them out.

[SPEAKER_05]: I said, don't worry, I got razors at my desk.

[SPEAKER_05]: I can do that.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then after they do that, you get a monofocal lens, which means that they tune the lens, so you can see it one distance.

[SPEAKER_05]: I guess at mine, it would be at a reading or at a computer distance.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then they said, then you get glasses and I said, well, what if I got the doof, the duo focal lens which was both near and far, then it jumps to $3,100 and I get a pair of glasses.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I say, but here's what's wild is that the other place, the sales pitch place, and I'll mention my name, dullest eye center.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not in the airport.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's near the airport.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_05]: So they didn't mention the insurance option at all.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they said really what's best for you is the one that costs $4900 an eye.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's what you need.

[SPEAKER_05]: And so I'm thinking $10,000.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now for free and a pair of glasses, I'm set.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I think that, you know, I'd like to have dual focus, but I don't know that I want it $6,000 bet.

[SPEAKER_05]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: So at least you're not like me that has the one eye that can see close and one eye that can see far.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he told me about that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I said, doesn't that make people nauseated or fall down?

[SPEAKER_05]: I felt it would be like being on one of those like enhanced reality for derides at Disney.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, I've gotten used to it, so for the most part I don't notice, but every now and then there'll be something where I'm like, why's that so blurry?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this eye is barely covered.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is that why you mostly walk in circles?

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the ears.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, but that's the balance.

[SPEAKER_05]: The good news is that after I get the surgery, I'm going to look just like this.

[SPEAKER_05]: You'd be so happy.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's going to do so well for the podcast.

[SPEAKER_05]: It is.

[SPEAKER_05]: It really, really is.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm there.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I could look like these guys, too.

[SPEAKER_05]: Look at all these happy people they can see.

[SPEAKER_05]: Meanwhile, meanwhile, I can't see because of the eye dilation.

[SPEAKER_05]: Driving home.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was like literally a three mile drive.

[SPEAKER_05]: All the cars to me look like stuffed animals.

[SPEAKER_05]: It should not have been on the right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't tell you not to.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the doctor, who, again, I don't know if I mentioned this on the show, looked like he could be my son.

[SPEAKER_05]: He was a kid.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, young, young.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and he said, well, you might, your eyes might be light sensitive.

[SPEAKER_05]: Do you have sunglasses?

[SPEAKER_05]: I said, do I have sunglasses?

[SPEAKER_05]: I look great in sunglasses, and he said, well, be careful driving home while I made it.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that's good.

[SPEAKER_05]: Good.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, all this,

[SPEAKER_05]: Close enough to D.C.

[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't realize that the grand poobah of this organization, this eye center, and this is not dull.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is a different one, is run by Dr. Bootros, who used to advertise.

[SPEAKER_05]: Dr. Bootros in the mid 90s, would advertise on the stern show,

[SPEAKER_05]: During Metro Traffic Reports, like this traffic report is brought to you by Dr. Bootrose.

[SPEAKER_05]: He was one of the founding fathers of LASIC surgery and stuff like that and laser surgery.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't get Dr. Bootrose.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'll get Dr. Ryzener, who my mom is actually because she used to work with the hospital.

[SPEAKER_05]: She's familiar with this.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's very good.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it was weird that I actually recognized the name of one of the surgeons.

[SPEAKER_05]: So anyone who's listened to radio for a long time would know the name Dr. Bootrose.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you connect everything to radio.

[SPEAKER_05]: I do.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can check that out.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you know what?

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad you brought that up because if you want to hear me connect everything to radio, this is the day for you.

[SPEAKER_05]: Happy Founders Day.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's our Founders Day.

[SPEAKER_04]: It is, and would you like to explain?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is Founders Day for our new show still talking.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think we shared last week that's still talking is going to be your Thursday show, starting next week.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right, let's run this.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, then I want to play the Rob Spuac.

[SPEAKER_02]: Josh, suckers, steal, talkers!

[SPEAKER_05]: Beautiful.

[SPEAKER_05]: I might, you know what, thank God, the dilation drugs didn't harm my hearing.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, it sounds great, but as we've covered many times, Mike O'Mara is retiring?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right after the cruise in January, we are continuing, but with a new show called StillTalking, that we are starting now.

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... sidelight are we allowed to say that he is retiring i forget with the uh... he is we don't he is we turn from the shore yet let's be specific he is not passing he is not have health related issues

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I know I never said he was dying.

[SPEAKER_05]: I just wanted he's going to continue to do.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's doing more stuff after this.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, just not the Michael Mary show.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and I'm sure he will be ready to share what he's doing soon and I think his mind I think his main concern was he didn't want to do as long as show and he didn't want to do it as frequently and after and the commission.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and after as many years as he's had his name on his show, he's earned that.

[SPEAKER_05]: So the Thursday next week, the real debut of Stiltalk and his very exciting, and because it's Founders Day, that sort of happens spontaneously because you posted something on Facebook.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you somehow in our conversation yesterday, you referred to today as Founders Day.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because today was the day that we would turn on still talking for Founders.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you can come and support us and become a founding member of our new show, still talking.

[SPEAKER_04]: We appreciate all the support you've given to Michael Marishow.

[SPEAKER_05]: We love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so the way this is going to work is on Thursdays, the Michael Marishow will be still talking.

[SPEAKER_05]: I am so thrilled that even before we really even discuss founders day just based on a Facebook post that we've gotten a few founders signing up and it's thrilling and I think it'd be really appropriate at this point to say thank you to our very first founder.

[SPEAKER_05]: Jolene White, who I told her, I said, you know what?

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much, you're my favorite.

[SPEAKER_05]: She said, I bet you sent that out as a group text.

[SPEAKER_05]: I said, no, Jolene, because no matter what, no matter what happens, you will always be our first founder.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that's great stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, Jolene.

[SPEAKER_04]: And now, so we posted on Facebook yesterday, turned on the Facebook page.

[SPEAKER_04]: So you should go like the Facebook page.

[SPEAKER_04]: You should go to your podcast app and search for

[SPEAKER_04]: and subscribe there to get us that there you will get the free show the Thursday show right um if you become a found in member over at stilltalkinpodcast.com and remember that's t-a-l-k-i-n because we don't have time for g right no g so here's what you get if you become a found in member you get a year of our premium show right which will be the Friday shows just like we did with the Michael mayor show we will be starting those up in

[SPEAKER_04]: you get access to the founder's vault, which will only be for founders.

[SPEAKER_04]: So when we open up month from now monthly and normal memberships, they won't get the founders vault.

[SPEAKER_04]: The founders vault currently has two episodes and it will have two more in it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they're they're our long episodes and just to let you know what they are they are entitled essentially how we got here.

[SPEAKER_05]: And a pretty deep I think most of the people that are T. M. OS enthusiast know my story because it's been told a thousand times.

[SPEAKER_05]: But we go over it again and I think we established some detail that we never got to learn some new things.

[SPEAKER_05]: and then we did and Josh had a whole host of things that I didn't know about him.

[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, check those out.

[SPEAKER_05]: They're really cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: But you got to be a founder to do it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it's not just a stone cold donation.

[SPEAKER_05]: You get the honor of being a founder and you get the extra content.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I think probably some swag down the road.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I was going to.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going down my list.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: You also get, like I mentioned, you'll get the Friday shows that we're going to start knocked over.

[SPEAKER_04]: You get a still talking t-shirt, pin and sticker, which we will mail out probably around November.

[SPEAKER_05]: I have a prototype of the pin.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know, the pin looks awesome.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I absolutely love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love the idea of doing pins now for things.

[SPEAKER_05]: We were talking actually that when things get going, that a pin is more effective than a business card.

[SPEAKER_05]: So who knows?

[SPEAKER_05]: We might be rattling when we walk down the street when we have pins in our pocket and less we're like Lyndon Baines Johnson and when we sit down the pins fall out with our knife.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Call back.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now here's the other thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: you will be caught.

[SPEAKER_04]: You will instantly when you sign up instantly be entered into the still talking hall of fame as we have a wall of bounding listeners.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: And here's why you want to go and sign up right away.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why is that?

[SPEAKER_04]: It is sorted by the order you sign up.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so not alphabetical, not alphabetical.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's the order you sign up.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now it's not by gender.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not by gender.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not by social security number.

[SPEAKER_05]: Nope.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not by race or age.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's by the order that you sign up and say, I am going to support Robin Josh.

[SPEAKER_04]: I want them to be successful.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is it true that the founding the Hall of Fame is going to actually be carved in the side of the Kennedy Center?

[SPEAKER_05]: and that Congress has said we're allowed to do that.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, yes, yes, except then three judges blocked it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Darn it!

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm so sorry, founder in this time.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it'll be a virtual wall, but it's a virtual wall.

[SPEAKER_05]: But when I think back to when we launched TMOs, the podcast, when we launched the Michael Maris Show on WJFK,

[SPEAKER_05]: it's it's a big deal to start a show and to have you guys aug by our side for the launch even before we've launched it is really rewarding and really nice so thank you all and we appreciate anyone who even takes a look at it so yeah go check out still talking podcast dot com yeah it's found in day founders day founders day yes

[SPEAKER_05]: We don't want it found in days different.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's different.

[SPEAKER_04]: Founders day.

[SPEAKER_04]: Founders day.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I see Mark saying, I need a still talking coffee mug.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, you do.

[SPEAKER_04]: We all do.

[SPEAKER_04]: We all do.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's a great idea.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have the store up and running yet, but probably will by this weekend.

[SPEAKER_05]: What if Mark, Mark, there goes Mark in the chat room.

[SPEAKER_05]: Hello.

[SPEAKER_05]: What if I took a coffee mug that wasn't a still-talking coffee mug and wrote still-talking on it with a Sharpie and I've got a nice Sharpie with a thick point and sent that to you.

[SPEAKER_05]: Will that be worth something?

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'm gonna give you a deadline because I got mugs like could mail.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think I have one on them.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've got one right here hold on.

[SPEAKER_05]: This could be yours

[SPEAKER_05]: This is actually a William Castle coffee mug, but I could cross that out.

[SPEAKER_04]: And because that's not gonna work, we'll put nice ones up because we have, I like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now you're saying this is a nice, okay, I get it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I get it, I get it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like our blue and red logo.

[SPEAKER_04]: I do too.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that'll look awesome on a coffee mug, so we did this out.

[SPEAKER_05]: Josh, you did all the design work, and it's beautiful, the graphic design work is lovely, and my favorite part is the three dots.

[SPEAKER_04]: The three dots, yeah, like, because we're still talking.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're still talking for the other day.

[SPEAKER_05]: Dot dot dot, I love it.

[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, do check that out and thank you for joining us today.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now, our lead story, oh, so yeah, my eyes will be corrected.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I think free and I'll give myself some new chunky glasses.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm beside myself, do you know yesterday,

[SPEAKER_05]: I was putting an album into discogs because I have to keep them all organized that way, right?

[SPEAKER_05]: I used a dedicated lamp and what do you see this?

[SPEAKER_05]: This magnifying glass, which is genuinely a magnifying glass.

[SPEAKER_05]: I keep it my day for you to screen.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, not for my screen.

[SPEAKER_05]: If I'm reading something, but I use the dedicated light, reader glasses and a magnifying glass.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I still had trouble reading the runoff groove on a record.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, this is stupid.

[SPEAKER_05]: And as I told Carrie last night,

[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't read a book in two years because I can't see text anymore, and you know, you can't like enlarge the text on a printed book.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm excited to read and I've already selected the first book I will read once my vision is corrected.

[SPEAKER_04]: What is it?

[SPEAKER_05]: I ordered it on an electronic bear.

[SPEAKER_05]: You familiar with this auction website?

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: Electronics.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's an old, you got it off eBay, so it's an older book.

[SPEAKER_05]: not only older it is a uh... i believe a second edition which means it was printed in nineteen thirty and six uh... what are you gonna read we're gonna read gone with the wind i'm gonna read the novel gone with the wind i've seen the movie dozens of times but i've never read the book

[SPEAKER_04]: And is this a thing that you thought of in celebration of when I get my new eyes?

[SPEAKER_04]: What do I want to do?

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, I mean, I also will enjoy being able to drive at night.

[SPEAKER_05]: That'll be a nice side light.

[SPEAKER_05]: Being able to read stuff will be great.

[SPEAKER_05]: Being able to look at my phone without zooming in will be nice.

[SPEAKER_05]: But I've missed reading.

[SPEAKER_05]: I just can't read anymore.

[SPEAKER_05]: And somehow it was so gradual my vision decline

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I just, I never really noticed it, and now it's going to be fixed, so I'm excited.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'll be able to see everything on the cruise.

[SPEAKER_05]: everything, menus, no secrets, no, and it's all because I don't have problems with chocolate.

[SPEAKER_05]: I've got candy coated cataracts.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's the reason.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think even though I jeopardize this with my fascinating, eye care stories, our lead story is something is happening for Labor Day weekend, not the telephone, that Josh and I have been working on

[SPEAKER_04]: Pretty much since you started with the show.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, and I guess it took Mike to a tire and or anything to do with it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's because Harry finally had a free weekend.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's something we've discussed since we have been classified as friends.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, and that is Josh has invited Kerry and myself to join him and Kelly in the outer banks and we'll be spending Labor Day weekend together.

[SPEAKER_05]: And we're vacationing together.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's sort of like Bob Newhart and Don Rickles.

[SPEAKER_05]: Does that mean anything to you?

[SPEAKER_04]: uh... no i know those people who those people are i do not know the day vacation they were and they were legendary friends in real life and they vacation together so that was that's sort of i'm i'll be rickles no i'm gonna be far i'm looking forward to it i am too i am i was thinking last night talking kelly i don't think we've vacation with another couple

[SPEAKER_04]: ever for Kelly and I okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember besides like family.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I'd invite my brother but he wouldn't make the draft.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, well, you could like send a car for him.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a long drive.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, he's in these in the middle of being a professor and all.

[SPEAKER_05]: So the but the outer banks is is it roughly half way for us?

[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, it's forever for me.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why I keep going.

[SPEAKER_04]: It takes me as long to drive to the outer banks as it does to drive to anapolis.

[SPEAKER_05]: How can that be?

[SPEAKER_04]: Because the outer banks is an island so there's two people to go up and then go all the way east.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you can't just stay on 95.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm going by boat.

[SPEAKER_05]: Will that save me time?

[SPEAKER_05]: No, I've made the mistake.

[SPEAKER_05]: I've made the mistake.

[SPEAKER_04]: Once many, many years ago, I was going to the other banks because we are going to my parents have a house there.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I think people remember that earlier this week, we revealed that your father is now concerned about who's going to get the house when he passes and no one's very interested in it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, no.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's not it.

[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, we did not talk about it on the show.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we can.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_05]: I get mixed up and my eyes are dilated.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: As people get older, they talk about, they think about.

[SPEAKER_04]: uh... wills and past things on and everything you want to make arrangements i mean that's just a courtyous yeah so we got an email last week uh... me and my brother and my sisters from my dad saying hey we're you want to decide what to do with this big house in the outer banks we love having everyone here but we need to make preparations to you guys want to sell it do you want to keep it whatever and uh...

[SPEAKER_05]: there was it was kind of implied that you four should get together and talk about this okay so do you guys there was the decision is on the siblings but then your dad will sign off on it and put it in the arrangement we're supposed to say what we want okay so a

[SPEAKER_04]: So, like we do, we all ignore it for a couple of days.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_04]: And nothing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now, when you ignore an email from your dad, who, um, I mean, he's not, technologically, not, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's

[SPEAKER_04]: had a deadline of August 31st.

[SPEAKER_04]: He said a deadline.

[SPEAKER_04]: He said a deadline.

[SPEAKER_04]: He gave us, I was 10 days.

[SPEAKER_04]: We had 10 days to make this decision and let him know.

[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, there goes Mark just became a founding member.

[SPEAKER_05]: Happy founders, Dave Mark.

[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, thank you, Mark.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: We get that mug made right away.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: So he gave us a deadline of August 31st.

[SPEAKER_04]: And like we see my dad does this thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would reply and say, deadline, get it?

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly, and I know my whole friend.

[SPEAKER_04]: I know my family listens to this and I'll but they all know who have that is Yeah, he sends a like super seri-seemail.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it used to be one-to-year now.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's probably every six months so

[SPEAKER_04]: you read it, you think about it, but you don't always respond to it.

[SPEAKER_05]: So these are all this yearly, semi-yearly email is about arrangements, and we can say that because it's a very polite way of talking about this.

[SPEAKER_04]: This one was about arrangements.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: What are the previous ones about that?

[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes it's health-related.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes it's just, hey, this family friend passed, and they think about life.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, my parents are quite healthy.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I talked them on the phone once he was very kind to reach out and I really liked talking to him And he seemed like and I said so how long you got old man?

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I did I will say as we all ignored the email right I did

[SPEAKER_04]: Call my mom and say, Hey, there's a 10 day deadline here.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's something happening on day 11.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was going to say, what is the penalty if you don't meet the deadline?

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what the deadline was for, except it's just how my dad works.

[SPEAKER_05]: Do you have like a childhood friend that your parents liked?

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, for example, I always liked when Robert was growing up at a friend named Aden, who was very cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: If you don't reply, is there any chance that your childhood friend will get the house?

[SPEAKER_05]: No.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: Think so.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Just checking because I'm trying to figure out if you set a deadline, there's got to be something behind it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there is, except it's just how my dad works, is he's that he say he was a CFO I don't think he is now I think he's fully retired but he did accounting right and he's very pragmatic and detail oriented he's definitely very much like like and it's a series email so he wants to deadline so we don't just ignore it like some of the other email so I guess.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I did, first thing I did, I checked in my mom, make sure they weren't planned to die on the 11th or 12th or like, go skydiving or something.

[SPEAKER_04]: Figure out why the deadline.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I was not given a proper answer, so it's just how my dad is.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that's fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: Then I just ignored the email some more.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that's a good way to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it was two days later, Matt sent a text to the siblings.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, but not your dad or mom not my dad or brother.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and he said I know we all just want to ignore that.

[SPEAKER_04]: See mail And you don't think that's what we would do But we are supposed to get together at Christmas and I feel like if we don't respond this could cause an issue and really Christmas.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, I don't know that'll ruin Christmas.

[SPEAKER_05]: It'll certainly make it.

[SPEAKER_05]: It would be nice to have this result even for Thanksgiving because They'll be phone calls made at least.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah

[SPEAKER_04]: So we decided, all right, let's hop on and do a meeting.

[SPEAKER_04]: And because and one of my family pays for Zoom, we all met here on Streamyard.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we were recording a podcast.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the very moment you started the meeting, I phoned you and you did not pick up and you sent me a picture of a family meeting.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, now does your dad and mom or should they do your dad and mom do they live in the outer banks or do they have another house?

[SPEAKER_04]: They are six months in the outer banks six months in St. Augustine.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, snowbirds.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, they are snowbirds.

[SPEAKER_04]: How close are they to you because you also live in St. Augustine?

[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get it, we need to discuss another time about how the scene Jacksonville North Florida is messed up.

[SPEAKER_04]: I will, I will, I will drop the topic like I'm not potato.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's as simple.

[SPEAKER_04]: They live 45 minutes away.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: So how's that still saying Augustine?

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, that's like Houston.

[SPEAKER_05]: Houston, everything's an hour away and you're still here.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's the same thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like,

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like my sister lives in Baltimore County and I lived in anapolis and that was a 45-minute drive, but you would go through like seven different little cities.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And here it's all just saying Augustine.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm sure it has something to do with profit somewhere.

[SPEAKER_04]: It has to be the way it was owned or I think it has to do with, they weren't supposed to be this many people.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then quickly came in.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that was just simply a side light.

[SPEAKER_05]: So we're all stand.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, we all stand.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_05]: The family.

[SPEAKER_04]: The family.

[SPEAKER_04]: And did you record it?

[SPEAKER_04]: I did not record it.

[SPEAKER_05]: You didn't live stream it.

[SPEAKER_05]: That would be funny.

[SPEAKER_05]: You wouldn't have to announce it.

[SPEAKER_05]: But if someone just happened to catch the live stream, that would be all.

[SPEAKER_04]: It would be, it would be funny.

[SPEAKER_04]: But it turned into mostly, hey, let's catch out because Matt and I talk every week.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen my sister Lara a bunch of summer.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I haven't seen my sister Robin in probably a year.

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe my disorder Christmas time.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it's also a different dynamic when just the siblings are together.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's it's exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just a substance.

[SPEAKER_04]: So we were catching up on life.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then we had to discuss what to do with the home.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: And the the decision we came up to is that we would all like a vacation home.

[SPEAKER_04]: And we all understand the value of like investing in real estate.

[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: We don't want to work with each other.

[SPEAKER_05]: So valid right that's Mike had some issues with his house the family house and main same issues Well, it's been documented and my issue is like, oh, let's say all the hot tub will die And I'd have to say all right guys.

[SPEAKER_05]: We got a must be nice.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're not hot club The hot tub is not working.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just thinking of something stupid because it'd be like all right guys Hey, we need to I know we've been making a little bit of money with rent and this thing out, but

[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone that goes there expects a hot tub so we got to spend seven 10,000 I don't even know what they cost dollars for a hot tub and I know Can you still win hot tubs on the prices right?

[SPEAKER_05]: Probably I always thought that was a one of the more useless things You could win because they're massive and unless you already have one where you gonna put it in my apartment You're a little studio apartment, but I

[SPEAKER_04]: But the thought is, I know how this will go.

[SPEAKER_04]: I would send that, I would be the oldest one, so I'd have to take the lead.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I know my sister's a respond with, well, is that really necessary?

[SPEAKER_04]: And then I know my brother will respond with, here's one for $200, I found on eBay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's on Facebook market road.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: Or here's an inflatable one, that'll work.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think we need a new pump because I looked on chat GPT, I think I can fix it if you buy me a wrench.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, I don't he's not handy.

[SPEAKER_04]: He'd tell me to go fix it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, but the cheapest way would be to fix it yourself.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: I might consider it.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I realized through that where my first vote was, hey, let's keep the home.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's rent it out and you get it and it'll be a great place for us all to meet up.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I quickly realized that no, you don't want to go into a, at that point, you're going into business with family.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: It is.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't want it.

[SPEAKER_04]: This house has a lot of great memories for our family.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want them those memories to turn into bad memories.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you don't want them to sell family business.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, this might be too personal.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can tell me to screw off if it is.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is the house owned out, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: It is.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's great.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it'll be a nice inheritance one day.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, what's wild about this is that if you for word to collude and be the house owners, you won't have dad as the arbiter or the final say so.

[SPEAKER_05]: Because as it is right now, you're still his kids.

[SPEAKER_05]: And so when something like that goes down, you answer to dad.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it's gonna be, and once he's gone, most of that responsibility would fall to the oldest, and you don't want that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, not at all.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't mind taking care of my family, and I like being the oldest.

[SPEAKER_04]: And you're very fond of them, and you check the boxes and you visit.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't want, I don't want to go into business with my family.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think that's smart.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's very smart.

[SPEAKER_04]: how we should be forget the other banks, we should be looking into getting a condo together and Baltimore.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, actually though, games, and I was like, it's,

[SPEAKER_04]: I had convinced myself, I don't want to do something with Matt, but that wasn't a bad idea.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, that's a pretty good idea.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you could, you know, Airbnb it if you're not out of season.

[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, and I've got, yeah, and of course, you know, I love going to Baltimore in the fall.

[SPEAKER_05]: I could, I could borrow it.

[SPEAKER_05]: But that's all contingent on whether or not this weekend vacation goes well for all of us.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well first try we can we'll talk to you today is whatever it is.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm I'm gonna I'll have to tell you this it's Labor Day weekend and I will charge you with keeping me in a good mood because I hate Labor Day now That's a telephone is gone

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll find something to do because I know I know, but labor day to me indicates end of summer that's a drag indicates going back to worker school that's a drag.

[SPEAKER_05]: And there's no telethon to sue my anxieties.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I just labor days one of my least favorite holidays.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, of course as I get older, I hate more.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think we'll spend labor day, you know, although we can record some still talking.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'd love that.

[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't done a in person podcast.

[SPEAKER_05]: Can we do it seaside so we can actually hear the ocean behind us?

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, perhaps.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know you don't much care for the ocean.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, you want to do it in the pool?

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to do it in the pool.

[SPEAKER_05]: You can be in the pool.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'll play lifeguard.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: When my father is something now, uh, before my father got sick and, you know, he passed away in February.

[SPEAKER_05]: He and his wife Kathy got together and wrote out the most detailed plan for all of their belongings.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: No decisions were left to me as his kid, Kathy and I, we conferred on some stuff, but everything's already planned.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm sure.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's the way to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I'm sure my dad's planned in the same way because he is very much a planner, very much a fairness, like down the line.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, how does it also?

[SPEAKER_05]: How does mom figure into all of this?

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is she a planner?

[SPEAKER_05]: Is she a follower?

[SPEAKER_05]: What does she do in the whole thing?

[SPEAKER_05]: Because if you were to say, Dad, we're selling the house and Mom said, Oh dear, I don't know if you want to do that.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, no.

[SPEAKER_04]: What I, what I did is I crafted a nice email.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're when, because I'm the oldest, so at the end of our stream yard meeting, the goal, what the decision was, Josh has to send the response email.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you used AI?

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_05]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: But it's I use day I so it looks nice and professional.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, but I just put in there about how do we love the house we have so many great memories and everything I said here and we just as long as the how long is the house better destination for your family.

[SPEAKER_04]: 25 30 years.

[SPEAKER_05]: Wow that long.

[SPEAKER_05]: So do you do have maybe this specific house maybe 25 years that's that's a good stay.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's a good long stay Yeah, so right now my father's house on the eastern shore Kathy is still unsure what to do with it And we've talked at length about it and he gets down to the point of you know what would my father What would he have done if he was still around and I know because I was at his side when he built it and this house was

[SPEAKER_05]: He selected everything down to the color of the roof to the wood on the floor.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's everything.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's his design.

[SPEAKER_05]: And while he was doing it, he said, this house is great.

[SPEAKER_05]: You're never going to have to paint it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Robert will never have to paint it.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is going to live on forever.

[SPEAKER_05]: And this is going to be our family place.

[SPEAKER_05]: But of course,

[SPEAKER_05]: is and this was so lucky is we were just trying to figure out what to do with this house.

[SPEAKER_05]: And ultimately I hope we keep it, but I don't think it's practical in any long term.

[SPEAKER_05]: out of the blue, the lady or the gentleman that cuts Kathy's the yard there, because, you know, she's not there often enough to maintain the yard.

[SPEAKER_05]: They've got a guy that comes in and does it.

[SPEAKER_05]: He calls it, there's a family who's building a house near here and they want to be around while it gets built.

[SPEAKER_05]: Would you be open to renting your house for the next eight months?

[SPEAKER_05]: They're good people.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like

[SPEAKER_05]: a godsend because now we don't have to make a decision we've got people living there and we don't have to worry about it so that's very cool we'll keep us updated because i didn't realize that uh and also if i like it after labor day weekend who knows maybe all by it or

[SPEAKER_05]: I could re-a-fifth partner.

[SPEAKER_04]: I hope to enjoy it for many, many more years.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I've imagined so, yes, of course.

[SPEAKER_05]: You never want to think about stuff like that, so.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of parents, I was going to do this later in the show, but I want to do this now.

[SPEAKER_05]: I played on the beautiful video segment a few weeks ago.

[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe a week ago.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was Yogi Barra talking about AMF bowling equipment, a classic old television commercial that was notable not only because it was Yogi, but also he literally had pit stains from sweat.

[SPEAKER_05]: during the spot.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was not the best looking spot in the world.

[SPEAKER_05]: So because I clicked on that, I'm getting all sorts of vintage bowling stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought this was a pretty funny video.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think even the audio is funny, but when you see it with the pictures, it's great.

[SPEAKER_06]: From automatic ball returns, to new ultra modern flooring, more slippery than any merciful God should allow.

[SPEAKER_06]: Plus, new ball retrieval designs offer exciting new ways to pulverize your fingers.

[SPEAKER_07]: I love ball.

[SPEAKER_06]: And what would I do to pulling sender B without a spontaneously materializing family?

[SPEAKER_06]: And there goes father, a four two inches row.

[SPEAKER_06]: Looks like he only before fitting one court of his blood.

[SPEAKER_06]: Now it's Mother's turn to the other thing into the things.

[SPEAKER_06]: But first, she opens the vent to wait for lightly at the man below the floorboards operating machine.

[SPEAKER_06]: He'd like to wave back, but unfortunately there isn't enough clearance to move his arms.

[SPEAKER_06]: Also, Mother has passed beyond the boundary of remembrance.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was supposed no longer be able to recall one of her loved ones, but look at those pins fly.

[SPEAKER_05]: So classic bowling.

[SPEAKER_05]: It always appeals to me.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I love bowling.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I've looked into getting into a league.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's a little hard to coordinate up here, but I love to go bowling.

[SPEAKER_04]: You have I've done a league.

[SPEAKER_04]: I loved it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not you didn't make friends because you don't have any friends, but no, no, I had friends at the time.

[SPEAKER_04]: I did it in Maryland.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I did a team bowling thing with some friends.

[SPEAKER_05]: So this is funny that you bring up Maryland, because you're in Maryland, this is a more regional thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know in New England, they had candle pin bowling, which is Paul Skinny Pins.

[SPEAKER_05]: Did you ever bowl duck pin bowling all the time?

[SPEAKER_05]: I love duck pin.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, duck pin is key to me.

[SPEAKER_05]: I actually own my own duck pin balls and that was my nickname in high school duck pin balls.

[SPEAKER_05]: But it is a

[SPEAKER_05]: shots or three rolls per frame as opposed to two.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's no different.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah and the pins are a little bit further spread out because they're physically smaller smaller but you also get more pin action because they bounce around because they're lighter.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay but that being said duck pin is almost extinct now.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's a couple alleys.

[SPEAKER_05]: What is it?

[SPEAKER_05]: Mark has one.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: And then there's a guy I know of a former radio guy, still a radio guy, some, but he owns one and his name is Chris Roth and he's a very good guy and a duckman enthusiast.

[SPEAKER_05]: And my grandfather William Stalkup, who I call big daddy, was a pro-bolar.

[SPEAKER_05]: But a pro-duck pin boulder in the 1950s he was literally nationally ranked like fourth in the nation I think and When Chris Roth was cleaning out some old files at this bowling alley, he owns he found a promotional poster of My grandfather that said bowling in this tournament William Stalkov like his picture on it and everything so it was like a big deal and it was so cool and

[SPEAKER_05]: When we get my grandfather wouldn't talk a lot about the past, so it was always fun when you got a nugget out of him.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he mentioned, he said, you know, I said, you were really a good bowler.

[SPEAKER_05]: You were on TV.

[SPEAKER_05]: He said, yeah, I was on bowling for dollars.

[SPEAKER_05]: What was a pretty big deal, though, is when I got flown out to Chicago in 1950.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, what's all this then?

[SPEAKER_05]: And there was a promotional film made in 1950.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was called, let's go bowler.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now this is not a parody.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the real movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go, Bowen.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's an invited bowling association of America.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it has a net day.

[SPEAKER_05]: Does that mean anything?

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course not, they're pro-ballers of the 1950s, no one cares.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so that gets you an idea of what this really looks like a movie and see an elementary school.

[SPEAKER_05]: The forward this picture is dedicated to the Americans who have shown through this elective patronage.

[SPEAKER_05]: They appreciate outstanding surrounded.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[SPEAKER_05]: And as you get into it, it shows like an average American family bowling in the 1950s.

[SPEAKER_05]: And it looks very much like the parody thing we just watched.

[SPEAKER_10]: Let's just imagine that our little party is joined by two of the ableist boulders and bowling teachers of all time.

[SPEAKER_10]: That day, and Marion Latterwig.

[SPEAKER_05]: Tough lady.

[SPEAKER_05]: So...

[SPEAKER_05]: My grandfather talked about this movie and none of us had ever seen it.

[SPEAKER_05]: He had never seen it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I assumed it had been cut up into the guitar picks years ago.

[SPEAKER_05]: But with YouTube, my uncle Dana found it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And because of that, that is the only surviving footage of my grandfather actually bowling.

[SPEAKER_05]: Because they did a portion on duckpin bowling.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I'd like to show that now.

[SPEAKER_05]: I want to help with it.

[SPEAKER_05]: As we talked about my grandfather forever, but this is him 1950, so I'd like to say he's a kid.

[SPEAKER_05]: He'd be like 36 here, but much younger than he was when I knew him.

[SPEAKER_10]: Most of the fundamentals are the same in all varieties of bowling.

[SPEAKER_05]: He is so smooth on his teeth.

[SPEAKER_10]: You use the same basic approach.

[SPEAKER_10]: Of course, the small ball requires a different grip and release.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now sadly, we didn't find this until after my grandfather passed away, but we talked to him about it.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, how was the experience?

[SPEAKER_05]: He said, I hated it.

[SPEAKER_05]: He said, why?

[SPEAKER_05]: He said, because to save money at the motion picture budget, they just set up duck pins at a ten pin alley.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the dimensions are slightly different.

[SPEAKER_05]: and he could not get a strike.

[SPEAKER_05]: He couldn't.

[SPEAKER_05]: Because it wasn't regulation.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: So when you see him leave like the Tenpen standing or do a 47 like he had there, it was making him so mad and you can see he actually looks angry in part of the list.

[SPEAKER_10]: I hope the same natural way here you pick it up off.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got those powerful hands.

[SPEAKER_05]: I remember them.

[SPEAKER_10]: It does not rest in the palm of the

[SPEAKER_10]: It is held equally balanced in both hands.

[SPEAKER_10]: Slow motion now.

[SPEAKER_05]: So great.

[SPEAKER_10]: Watch the release of the ball.

[SPEAKER_10]: It rolls off the fingertips with no twist of the wrist.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you have to admit his deliveries amazing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_10]: Here's the release.

[SPEAKER_10]: I guess thought...

[SPEAKER_04]: I always thought you, you want to put it twist.

[SPEAKER_10]: No, not in life.

[SPEAKER_10]: Great.

[SPEAKER_10]: Off the fingertips.

[SPEAKER_10]: I think the twisting is more of a tearful.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, with the floor.

[SPEAKER_05]: I guess so.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is more, I also think Duckfin is more about power.

[SPEAKER_10]: And Duckpins, the beginner should bowl a streetball.

[SPEAKER_10]: Cross-alley to the strike pocket.

[SPEAKER_05]: see he knew that was he knew that was a strike ball right there and he got mad is angry but he was holding it in for the camera oh i bet you know i will say this um to call him hardheaded might be accurate so i wonder how he dealt with a hollywood director or chicago director for that matter but i always i love that and i just wanted to share that because i thought that was cool now

[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, there might be.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know there was on our last cruise, but the new cruise is coming up, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_05]: There it is, and I've got the ad.

[SPEAKER_05]: I thought we were gonna try to segue in smoother than that.

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, mine was pretty ham-handed to begin with.

[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, maybe we're gonna take a good cruise.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, one last show, one last cruise, one hell of a send-off, up before.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that your first ad reads, and you did one on Biggo and Books?

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, no, I've had to do prize picks and stuff before.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've had to do others.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, if you go and become a found in member today for founder day.

[SPEAKER_04]: Founders day.

[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you will get.

[SPEAKER_04]: The episodes we discussed and you will hear a clip played of me doing an Amazon read on the big-oh-and-ducks show from 1912 from 2011 Yeah, and it's not quite the same voice you hear now.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, and what we explained it in the clip, but you you were having yourself a day.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was quite the the day

[SPEAKER_05]: Hearing that clip for me is worth everything we've put into launching Stoltalkin because it was a true treat.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know when you find a clip and you're like, well, this is embarrassing, but I know I have to bring it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what this is.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I felt that way when I brought in the Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson clip, originally.

[SPEAKER_05]: I seem to have misplaced it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, we've had, we've had, we've never looked at the ads sort of so and still talking they are more seamless.

[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, we've had so much celebrity death in the past seven days.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I know that people tried to simplify it and make it be in like triplets, but this is already been four.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, we talked, we mentioned briefly on television account.

[SPEAKER_05]: One of Shelley fabric accounts, to me,

[SPEAKER_05]: Because Shelley Fabrey, Shelley Fabrey not only had a hit record and a television star on two big series, she was in three Elvis movies.

[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even mention that on the show because I didn't want to piss Michael.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think we did enough Elvis talk this week, because she was in girl happy, one of my favorites, spin out, not one of my favorites, and clam bake, one that I avoid.

[SPEAKER_05]: But she did three movies with Elvis, which is pretty good.

[SPEAKER_05]: Also, of course, we lost

[SPEAKER_05]: people are still posting left and right about it and what's so amazing to me is even after her passing I think in a way dolly is still doing good because when people talk about how great she was it's almost an inspiration to be better.

[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think her family can resist putting out that last song that she recorded for 20 years?

[SPEAKER_04]: I see recorded a song saying they don't go out when I'm 100 years old.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think they will wait, uh, but probably not 20 years.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and the fans will love it, of course they will.

[SPEAKER_04]: They will, but in 20 years or now, will the fans be dead.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you could have said the same thing about Elvis, and he's been dead.

[SPEAKER_05]: What, all 49 years?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of them are dead, but he was a member.

[SPEAKER_04]: Last one he was 80 years old.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_05]: He didn't pass anything.

[SPEAKER_05]: That was the problem.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, Dolly.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and I did want to mention that, uh,

[SPEAKER_05]: And I do want some feedback on this notion, but this Friday tomorrow, I should say, I'm going to do a Rob Radeo saluting Dolly's records.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think I picked out like maybe 20 of Dolly's biggest hits.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell some stories, go through her whole career and play all the hits and stuff that you probably have never heard before.

[SPEAKER_05]: So do check that out.

[SPEAKER_05]: But what I do want feedback on is, as we launch the still-talking feed,

[SPEAKER_05]: I have missed doing Rob Radio, my music radio show, and if there's an audience for it, I'd love to throw it in the feed sometimes, so if you dig it, let us know.

[SPEAKER_05]: We got really nice response on the Elvis death day show.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the answer is yes, keep doing it, people want it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Also passing, I was announced last night, JP Morgan, who, did you ever, you would have never seen the gong show, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: I have seen the gong show.

[SPEAKER_04]: Gong show used to be my sick day from school.

[SPEAKER_04]: What?

[SPEAKER_04]: What?

[SPEAKER_05]: So the original gong show, she was a regular panelists, perhaps best known for the fact that one time she took her shirt off on the gong show.

[SPEAKER_05]: I believe there was a lot of cocaine going on on that set, so maybe bad decisions were made.

[SPEAKER_05]: But not a lot of people know is that JP Morgan was actually a pop singer and had a number

[SPEAKER_05]: The name of the song, that's all I want from you.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now this is pre-rock and roll, of course.

[SPEAKER_05]: But to have a number three hit, that's a pretty big deal, I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: A little love, that's slowly gross and gross.

[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, so we lost JP Morgan.

[SPEAKER_05]: She was 90, I believe.

[SPEAKER_05]: And if not a show, it's stalwart, you know, someone who was absolutely recognizable, even Josh remembers the going show.

[SPEAKER_05]: But the one that hurts, not dolly bad, but pretty bad,

[SPEAKER_05]: pass away.

[SPEAKER_05]: I remember, I think the first time I probably saw a Tim Curry was when I saw the movie Annie in the theater and he played Kelparnet's brother.

[SPEAKER_05]: I believe his name is Rooster, but everything he did.

[SPEAKER_04]: he went a hundred percent my wife is younger than me yeah and when i told her okay i really wanted to tell me that he passed and i said oh he's my favorite part of the clue yes and she said well i only remember him from donstin checks it

[SPEAKER_05]: But you know what, even though it's a monkey movie, I never seen it, I know it's a monkey movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: Even though Dunston checks in is a monkey movie and I think that should be its own qualifying class of motion picture.

[SPEAKER_05]: He's good in it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I do have many people initially and automatically think of him as Dr. Frank and Ferdere in Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[SPEAKER_05]: I just made surprise you, I don't like that movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad to hear that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I thought you don't have to watch it on Hicks next.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, just by saying that may be able to give it a second chance.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, but he made that movie in 1975.

[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't realize he created the role on stage before the movie when it was just called The Rocky Horror Show.

[SPEAKER_05]: Also, you mentioned clue.

[SPEAKER_05]: He starred in the London production of the show, Hare.

[SPEAKER_05]: Also, he was, he did spam a lot on Broadway, and one that I had forgotten about, and I'm sure you remember this.

[SPEAKER_05]: He was, he was the, he was the original Pennywise in the TV movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he was the kind of actor that could, as they say, chew the scenery, really get the most out of a part.

[SPEAKER_05]: And somehow, even if it's a monkey movie, he came out smelling like a rose.

[SPEAKER_05]: He did such a good job.

[SPEAKER_05]: But you mentioned Clue.

[SPEAKER_05]: Clue was one of the earliest movies that we dissected on Hicks Knicks.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I love the movie so bad.

[SPEAKER_05]: I always have.

[SPEAKER_05]: And when we were talking about it at length,

[SPEAKER_05]: He was the best part of Clube.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, the end-in where he is running around, trying to explain what happened is the best five, six minutes in the movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I know it has to be several takes, but the speed and the perfect mission and the way he does it, he makes you tired watching him.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like to think it was a one-camera shot.

[SPEAKER_05]: Not that it would be amazing.

[SPEAKER_05]: With his background and theater, who knows?

[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe.

[SPEAKER_05]: But...

[SPEAKER_05]: The wordplay in clue is such that, and we talked about this too, that even if you watch the movie three or four times, there's going to be stuff you miss, because the wordplay is clever, and it's fast, and it's understated, and it's hard to sell upon and keep it understated.

[SPEAKER_05]: I found on the YouTube a clip of Tim Curry's best moments from clue, and if this doesn't make you smile, I don't think you're listening to the right show, rest in peace, Tim Curry.

[SPEAKER_11]: The Butler.

[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly what you do.

[SPEAKER_11]: And Butler, sir.

[SPEAKER_10]: Professor Plum.

[SPEAKER_11]: You were once a professor of psychiatry, specialising in helping paranoid and homicidal lunatic suffer from delusions of grandeur.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, but now I work for the United Nations.

[SPEAKER_11]: So your work is not changed.

[SPEAKER_11]: That sounds like a confession to me.

[SPEAKER_11]: In fact, the double negative has led to proof of the mammoth rate you gave yourself a work.

[SPEAKER_11]: Are you trying to make me look stupid in front of the other guests that need any help from me, sir?

[SPEAKER_11]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_00]: He had written to kill me in public.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to kill you in public.

[SPEAKER_11]: I think she meant he's written in public to kill her.

[SPEAKER_11]: What is that you did now?

[SPEAKER_11]: Why would he know I want to kill him twice?

[SPEAKER_11]: Well, we all make mistakes.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love his tone and the entire film.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_11]: Your movement also disappeared.

[SPEAKER_11]: But that was his job.

[SPEAKER_11]: He was an illusionist.

[SPEAKER_11]: But he never reappeared.

[SPEAKER_11]: He wasn't very good in these things.

[SPEAKER_05]: And also after watching it.

[SPEAKER_05]: How can you not just want to turn to someone when they ask you a question and say, now, don't say no, say no.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I like the eye bundle.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I bought that is such a simple joke and it is so perfect.

[SPEAKER_05]: When you talk about his tone, there's, you know, people that do the serious business and comedy say, if there is eight people in a room acting nuts,

[SPEAKER_05]: it's not funny it's annoying right if you have seven people in a room acting nuts and one person that's saying watching them do it that's funny and even though he has his own quirks in clue one of the reasons the movie works is that for the bulk of it he is that guy that

[SPEAKER_05]: And it's the same theory behind both of the Bob Newhart shows.

[SPEAKER_05]: He was surrounded by crazy people, but he reacted to that stuff.

[SPEAKER_05]: Green Acre's too.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I agree with you, 100%.

[SPEAKER_04]: While we are talking about movies real quick.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but so Jim Perry was 80, just like Dolly.

[SPEAKER_05]: So weird.

[SPEAKER_04]: Last week, I did have a chance.

[SPEAKER_04]: Last week, you mentioned Gale Dalton, and the celebrity hall pass.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm so glad.

[SPEAKER_04]: I had a chance to watch it this week.

[SPEAKER_04]: At a boy, how was it?

[SPEAKER_04]: Here's what I can give you.

[SPEAKER_04]: You are correct.

[SPEAKER_04]: The end-in is the Wizard of Oz.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the whole movie is really.

[SPEAKER_04]: The whole movie makes me, here's, I was not thinking Wizard of Oz while watching the movie.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.

[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, where's my car?

[SPEAKER_04]: It's that channel that then makes me wonder if all of those movies are also Wizard of Oz

[SPEAKER_05]: a group of people, diverse people, going on a journey, searching for something that may or may not be there at the end.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's the theme of the wisdom of us.

[SPEAKER_05]: And constantly distracted by weird things.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so it made me rethink.

[SPEAKER_04]: There was other movies about, well, it's all based on which or the vase.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's only two or three ideas in Hollywood, and they've all been stolen so many times.

[SPEAKER_05]: But this is a very, this is a very direct lift.

[SPEAKER_04]: But you're right, guilt, all three's a great movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: Did you like the evil female drug kingpin, essentially the wicked witch of the West?

[SPEAKER_04]: I thought she was great.

[SPEAKER_04]: She was great.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love how they're like at the very end.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're not even gonna hide that it's Wizard of Oz.

[SPEAKER_04]: We're bringing a hot air blow.

[SPEAKER_05]: hot air balloon yeah and no spoiler I think that it is I mean there are billions silly movies out there but this one is silly and uses it as a wonderful weapon the silliness is great but I do want to say this about the Wizard of Oz it's not only a journey movie it's also a monkey movie just like Dunston checks in because it has flying monkeys this might have to be a still talking theme in the future but monkey movies where we rank monkey movies

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I think that at the very, well, Wizard of Oz has got to be at the top, but any which way, but every which way, but loose with this is a monkey movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is it?

[SPEAKER_05]: It's no.

[SPEAKER_05]: Boy monkey.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's monkeys.

[SPEAKER_05]: Everything counts.

[SPEAKER_05]: Everything counts as a monkey.

[SPEAKER_05]: In this classification.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So beneath human.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: But, and so, champs, apes, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

[SPEAKER_04]: No, that would have to, yeah, we have to figure it out.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we will.

[SPEAKER_04]: On the monkey movies.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, it's, uh, I had to get up early today.

[SPEAKER_05]: I had to get dressed, you know, and get out and get to the eye doctor.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you want to look good when you go out.

[SPEAKER_05]: And if you want to look good,

[SPEAKER_05]: Really, there's only one place you gotta go, and it's all you need.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's quents.

[SPEAKER_05]: Looked quents.

[SPEAKER_05]: Quents has been my go to all summer long.

[SPEAKER_05]: The fabrics feel elevated, the fits are clean, and everything it just works.

[SPEAKER_05]: No need to overthink it.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's just all the wardrobe staples for looking cool and keeping cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got the linen pants.

[SPEAKER_05]: And there's something magical about a quince t-shirt.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got it in light blue, which is awesome, because it makes my eyes positively pop.

[SPEAKER_05]: But if you put a t-shirt that's not like a beat up concert t-shirt on a nice t-shirt with a pair of linen pants, you can go anywhere.

[SPEAKER_05]: You look great.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the quince stuff is not only reasonable, it replaces like 10 items in your wardrobe.

[SPEAKER_05]: You just got to feel these t-shirts to be believe.

[SPEAKER_05]: There are 100% Pima cotton.

[SPEAKER_05]: the pants are comfortable and relaxed, but still polished enough to go pretty much anywhere.

[SPEAKER_05]: Everything is priced 50 to 80% less than what you'd find with similar brands.

[SPEAKER_05]: Quint's works directly with ethical factories and cuts out the middleman, so you're getting premium materials without the markup.

[SPEAKER_05]: Go to hell, middleman.

[SPEAKER_05]: We don't need you.

[SPEAKER_05]: We don't need you.

[SPEAKER_05]: You have no power.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's a wizard of all sorts.

[SPEAKER_05]: You have no power here.

[SPEAKER_04]: Last night I was Uber and I checked in with Kelly in between Rides saying, what do you do?

[SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, she responded with, I'm on quince looking for clothes for you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently she wants to address me differently.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I will say this.

[SPEAKER_05]: While I was talking early, you got up to check something in the back of the studio.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you are wearing what looked like purple board shorts?

[SPEAKER_05]: Not your best look.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've talked before that.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I forgot my drink so I had to get it out of the fridge.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I have talked before about how I wear 90% of the time and you will find that when we will be when we vacation together, I had 90% of the time, I'm either wearing sweatpants or like running shorts.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like your well shorts.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're welcome ladies.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, no, I totally get it and you know, on this show, unless we're forced to do some sort of massive stunt like getting up without using your hands, we're only seen from our chest up.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, you can, you can, pants-wise, you can, but no, sadly, if you go to a restaurant, head to the country club for a do, you're going to want nicer pants.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I do check out Quit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And a Quince also dressed Jack Klugman for many years.

[SPEAKER_04]: Not really.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was on a show called Quince and you see.

[SPEAKER_04]: Is it the, is it the bonus show that we get into LBJ and dressing hand?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, these are not like Hagar slacks.

[SPEAKER_05]: I promise you, these really,

[SPEAKER_05]: When you put on like a pit with you rent a tuxedo and you get measured and you put on a pair of pants that have been cut for you that fit you exactly it feels good that's the way these quince pants feel I like I'm speaking a clothing yeah

[SPEAKER_04]: Can I ask you, do you know what this is?

[SPEAKER_04]: Have you seen like the kids that wear these headbands?

[SPEAKER_04]: I have.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a modern sweat band.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so there's no top culture forehead.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's no top to it.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's not like a beanie.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a sweat band and you'll see like the baseball players wear them and stuff and it's like, they wear it to keep the sweat out of their eyes, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of times the wear it if they're not wearing a hat or something.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I saw this one and I just like that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I asked Kelly, can I pull that off?

[SPEAKER_04]: And she laughed at me, and she said, I am trying to be the young kid on the softball team.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, you're playing Senior Miss, you're playing Senior Miss, you're playing Senior Miss and softball.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because Senior Citizen's softball starts on Tuesday.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I told her, I said, all right, no, serious.

[SPEAKER_04]: I now have trouble wearing hats with my hair sometimes.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not going to go the visor route.

[SPEAKER_04]: because that's not for me.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: And also, I think that leans golf more so than hard or softball.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I seriously said, can I get away with this?

[SPEAKER_04]: And that's where she made fun of me for being the young kid.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, so she laughed at me.

[SPEAKER_04]: So instead, I went to chat GPT and said,

[SPEAKER_04]: And what they tell you and it said the absolutely it said not only will those colors match your skin tone and hair well, right with with the Mohawk it'll work perfect and I said prove it Oh, they didn't put it because they didn't generate it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't put me put me in the headband and I shot.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got away.

[SPEAKER_04]: I got away with it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Get away with it.

[SPEAKER_04]: But do you have those sunglasses?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, those are my sunglasses.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I mostly see what an indoor environment or evening.

[SPEAKER_04]: So I think you look quite good.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: I saw that and I said, it does look like I'm trying to be young.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I think I can do it with it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Could you get one that says still talking?

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know because this one came up on my face.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I still talk in.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love spotlighting merch that other podcasts wouldn't have.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like I was so proud of the TMOs playing cards.

[SPEAKER_05]: Even though we sold out, but it wasn't a massive, massive hit.

[SPEAKER_05]: But I love that because I was able to actually approve the quality of the card.

[SPEAKER_05]: My daughter designed the cards and the box.

[SPEAKER_05]: It was just I was so proud of that.

[SPEAKER_05]: But you don't see Joe Rogan playing cards because his audiences and smart enough to remember the rules.

[SPEAKER_04]: You can, and now you got me inspired.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't want to still talk in sweat band, but I would like to still talk in like baseball.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, see, that's the thing, that's so cool.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love it, yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: I would like a still talk in DVD player.

[SPEAKER_05]: For people still have physical meetings.

[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody wants that.

[SPEAKER_04]: go down, I'll go over to Goodwill, grab a bunch of DVD players, put a still talking sticker on it and sell it to you.

[SPEAKER_05]: I would love it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'll take it as long as it comes with some and physical media.

[SPEAKER_04]: Rolando does have a good point that we should just cut the eye holes out and then it becomes like a ninja turtle mass.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that would be great.

[SPEAKER_04]: That would work well, too.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well,

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, that would sort of defeat the purpose though.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's not defeat the purpose.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I would actually wick the sweat into your eyes.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, so thanks to chat to Petty, I have ordered myself a headband.

[SPEAKER_04]: How much, uh, way too much?

[SPEAKER_05]: The new how much?

[SPEAKER_04]: Twenty-two dollars.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, gosh.

[SPEAKER_04]: Plus you've been.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you should have at least gotten free shipping.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got free shipping on my book of the go on with the win book.

[SPEAKER_04]: I have a problem in the problem.

[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me of that.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, also.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I know.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they started playing well and then I spend more money and then I get the irritated Josh, we all have problems.

[SPEAKER_05]: I have an Elvis problem.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I get I get press releases from Graceland to this day because they know I'm going to buy everything they put out.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: I also have a Beatles problem, but that's

[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's more of your control because there's not as much air that you exactly exactly I'm talking about the band the Beatles, but Elvis Presley other than the monkeys.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and did you see in the chat room all the monkey movies?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes

[SPEAKER_04]: who ever said outbreak is the winner.

[SPEAKER_05]: That is a great one.

[SPEAKER_05]: Two doesn't want to space out of see.

[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you barrister for outbreak.

[SPEAKER_05]: Tawzen, of course, all the Tarsan movies going able with Tony Danza.

[SPEAKER_05]: Bedtime for Bonzo, President Reagan.

[SPEAKER_05]: Fantastic.

[SPEAKER_04]: These are all great muggy movies.

[SPEAKER_04]: Favorite part of this show is when we go on a tangent that's just silly and doesn't make sense and everyone gets on board with it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I really thought that candy coated cataracts would be the go-to for this, but it turns out it's monkey movie.

[SPEAKER_09]: Monkey movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: I could at this point show you the horrifying footage from the title wave, or I'm sorry, the tsunami, the water turns out to be the press.

[SPEAKER_05]: It is really depressing, but it is...

[SPEAKER_05]: horrifying at such a level.

[SPEAKER_05]: I recommend you see it, but not here.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to, I don't want to do it.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, let's, let's, let's talk long.

[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk long.

[SPEAKER_05]: Let's talk.

[SPEAKER_05]: Wonka.

[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

[SPEAKER_05]: I just want people to know that we have Nepal on our mind, we were praying for them and we wish them well, and it is horrifying what happened, but let's talk Wonka.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's not, let's take Wonka, Wonka's something good we can go out on.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: Because I want to, I want to give you an update on your golf TV show that you recommend it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: First of all, it's not mine.

[SPEAKER_05]: I did recommend it to Mike, but I mean, I'm not a reality show guy to begin with.

[SPEAKER_05]: So,

[SPEAKER_05]: I will not take ownership.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was pleased that I thought I'd discovered it.

[SPEAKER_05]: See, then I found out it's been on for 24 seasons.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is a good transition from the flood to Wonka, because it's a reality show disaster.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, great.

[SPEAKER_04]: Perfect.

[SPEAKER_04]: As you showed that clip to Mike and...

[SPEAKER_04]: they made a big deal about having guys from good good go off or whatever on there it's one of the ones of the sponsors I guess yeah well the premiere episode which was supposed to premiere like last night got delayed because of controversy with the good good gram

[SPEAKER_05]: Now, is it show a flaw in my chemical makeup that when a controversy happens, I get excited because I don't like reality shows.

[SPEAKER_05]: So I like to see bad things happen to bad people.

[SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes the controversies you watch them and you're like, oh, that's not worth the controversy.

[SPEAKER_04]: Like we talked about on the bonus show tomorrow, we talk about the target costume.

[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Do you think this is, let's say, for fun, this, that the target controversy is valid.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think we all thought it was, but let's say what they're alleging is valid.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this as troublesome as that?

[SPEAKER_05]: I can see this being problematic.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, good.

[SPEAKER_05]: Good.

[SPEAKER_04]: So they may, good, good has a new driver called the good driver.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I think it's in partnership with Calaway or something, but this is good, by the way, with that name, we're almost half to be.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's just say they put out an ad for it.

[SPEAKER_04]: They put it up on their social media and the response from the community was, for Dick's sport and goods and other stores

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, if you lose, if you lose a store like Dix, a box store, that's a huge problem.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was looking at pictures this morning where they had walls of like good, good hats and merchant stuff that were now just empty because the Dix employees were ordered to pull them all down.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I would, and I was funny, because I was gonna go to Dix today and buy you a good good sweat band.

[SPEAKER_05]: And, sorry, Rob, let's take a look at this.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, please, you've been teasing me.

[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what they did wrong.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: Good good presents the driver.

[SPEAKER_07]: Do not touch my new driver.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's a big deal, it's a 25.

[SPEAKER_07]: Not at all.

[SPEAKER_07]: No.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, don't do it.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, don't.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, don't.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's over.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not okay.

[SPEAKER_04]: No, I assume that they're clearly trying to parody some type of horror movie.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think so.

[SPEAKER_04]: But you can't start it with completely knocking down a woman.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's really, I don't know if you're doing a horror movie or like a life-try movie about a beaten woman.

[SPEAKER_05]: No.

[SPEAKER_05]: That to me screamed domestic violence.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was 100% domestic violence at the or female violence.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: It'd be very big.

[SPEAKER_04]: It'd be very big.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: Don't touch my driver.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's not, that's, that's roughly the plot of the, uh, moving the burning bed with a hot fur faucet.

[SPEAKER_04]: Every time there's a controversy like this, I just think about.

[SPEAKER_04]: How many people approve this before it got listed?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is that what they're all acted?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, if something like this makes it to air, it's more than one bad decision.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's a series of bad decisions.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a hundred people that have approved this thing before it got posted.

[SPEAKER_04]: Now, it's obviously been pulled down and they're doing some cleanup now.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right, have they issued an official apology yet?

[SPEAKER_05]: Because you know, that's going to be the next thing.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they put up like a 10 minute apology video.

[SPEAKER_05]: I see that's too long.

[SPEAKER_05]: We need something short.

[SPEAKER_05]: We don't have time for 10 minutes.

[SPEAKER_05]: The show is only an hour, 20.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_04]: But I guess that's a it's a nine minute apology video responding to the heavy backlash.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's not good Good.

[SPEAKER_04]: I like this that he throws Calaway under the bus saying that it was co-creator.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was Calaway.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah Well, of course if you're going down grab somebody, but it doesn't make it any any better.

[SPEAKER_05]: They call the way He's it but but Calaway's Calaway is mentioned briefly and Calaway is not getting there stuff pulled or are they?

[SPEAKER_04]: they are not they are their partners for this driver but it seems like just the good good stuff is getting pulled down because this had good good branding on it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think that uh we should get rid of that and everyone buys an atom driver which is a very quiet understated scary acting driver that were many driver would it was very pretty.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think they should just re-brand this the bad bad driver and just resell it it's can you are just the the first part just the tackle with the unladian just because it's really remarkable this guy just just lays this girl out flat

[SPEAKER_05]: You know what, Josh, you've blocked it because it's so... Oh, is it not playing there?

[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, here we go.

[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, thank you.

[SPEAKER_05]: The lady grabs the driver.

[SPEAKER_02]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: No.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's your new club.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is it?

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this like...

[SPEAKER_05]: women fighting in the squared circle?

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this this violence against women?

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this trying to make equality that women can be tough to?

[SPEAKER_05]: Is this Mike's king?

[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe because good good is going after like the younger like yeah crowd and it's a younger like Maybe there's something where that connects with like the younger.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know voice But you know that spot would have been okay if you know if there's a funny fat guy in the head at the end Why don't the what is any tackle the funny fat guy?

[SPEAKER_04]: This spot would have been fine if he knocked down a man

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: Or even better, a monkey.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, now you're talking about golfing monkey.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know what?

[SPEAKER_05]: The little rascals had a short called Divit Diggers that has a monkey in it.

[SPEAKER_05]: So it's another good monkey movie.

[SPEAKER_04]: And if you google it on chat a monkey before too.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, if you Google divot diggers, it's a great, great little rascals short.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right, closing thoughts, we have an update on the Wonka reality.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, this is like reality show heavy.

[SPEAKER_05]: This final segment.

[SPEAKER_04]: It is.

[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like they are going with a horror theme.

[SPEAKER_05]: Baristas, there's a joke and there's somewhere about one in drivers.

[SPEAKER_05]: Let's see, that's good.

[SPEAKER_02]: So excited for this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my god.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, it's just like the movie.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Going up, some of you are going down.

[SPEAKER_05]: And the walker, Vader.

[SPEAKER_03]: The walker has his fine, but he also has his dark side.

[SPEAKER_07]: You will take a nice walk in by the same sample of the walker.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, or.

[SPEAKER_07]: Is my factory testing you?

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, whoa.

[SPEAKER_07]: Don't worry.

[SPEAKER_07]: Something only goes wrong.

[SPEAKER_07]: Three times out of ten.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's always a twist.

[SPEAKER_05]: You don't know what to expect.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow, there's the white TV room.

[SPEAKER_05]: Isn't it like a wallpaper?

[SPEAKER_05]: From like a wallpaper?

[SPEAKER_05]: From like a wallpaper?

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm not going to live with these people after this.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't have a line since you're going home, bro!

[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to put a mother against the daughter.

[SPEAKER_07]: Your tour has been terminated.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing this for my family.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lifetime supply of money on the line.

[SPEAKER_07]: I guess I could afford to terminate a few more.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm in.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm in with a complaint that they still haven't gotten Jean Wilder's AI voice right.

[SPEAKER_04]: They haven't, but it's still, and they didn't, they did not steal his voice.

[SPEAKER_04]: They paid handsomely to use his voice.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they did.

[SPEAKER_05]: I do think that if this has a weakness, I mean, it's definitely

[SPEAKER_05]: creative.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to think if there's any other reality show that's based on a piece of pop culture like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know because they nailed it.

[SPEAKER_05]: They really did the so much down to the ceiling.

[SPEAKER_05]: The ceiling looks like the walk is ceiling.

[SPEAKER_05]: But like any other reality show, it's about alliances and challenges.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's and crying.

[SPEAKER_05]: And that's what's going to be.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_05]: But anything loses good.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm in.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: I wonder how the likable wallpaper is.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_04]: You see the girl that's got it all on like her face.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's a little concerning and the guy that got the cream off the top of the mushroom.

[SPEAKER_05]: Good for him.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, at least now, though, you can tell who lived the wallpaper before you.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that was always a concern of mine in the movies was.

[SPEAKER_04]: You just lick it and the next person comes and licks it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, as Larry King would say, any wallpaper is likable if you're not expecting flavor.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, all right.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think we covered a lot of stuff including monkey movies.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, it's great show.

[SPEAKER_05]: No monkeys in Wanka, huh?

[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, I don't think so.

[SPEAKER_05]: All right, we will keep taking your monkey submissions.

[SPEAKER_05]: I hope everyone had a great founder's day podcast episode.

[SPEAKER_05]: Hope you enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Your name will go nowhere.

[SPEAKER_05]: It'll stay there forever.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you get up on that wall.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, not forever, because I do want to apologize.

[SPEAKER_05]: One of our founding members was good, good golf, and I had to take them down.

[SPEAKER_05]: That sponsorship's really going to hurt.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, how shall we end without?

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, get in there good.

[SPEAKER_05]: Josh, thanks a million.

[SPEAKER_05]: Appreciate it.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, talk to you tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we have a producer club tomorrow at Earl 11 a.m. Eastern, and we will talk to you then.

[SPEAKER_09]: Love you, pop.

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