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Welcome to episode four eighty three of

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Oh, yeah.

Here we go, y'all.

All right.

What is it?

Thursday?

Yeah.

I don't even know what day of the

week it is anymore, man.

I've been on a round top of a

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I want to give a hat tip to

everybody in the house right now.

I don't think everybody's gotten a memo

from our regular YouTube channels,

but as you can probably imagine.

can't really operate on youtube every

single time we'd put up a live on

youtube i would lose without a doubt every

single time anywhere i mean they took a

thousand people son they unsubscribed a

thousand people a thousand people because

i was broadcasting over there so it is

what it is um all right so uh

yeah i'll just jump right into it with

the farm news how you doing son

Pretty good.

Yeah, it's actually a pretty nice,

nice day out today.

But I'll get into that during my farm

news because I think it's they're playing

games again, Dad.

Yeah, yeah, they're definitely.

Thank you, Juby Joe.

Hat tip back to y'all.

Well, you know,

the good thing is the biggest audience is

definitely on the audio platform.

But we thank everybody for, you know,

checking us out.

And we always like to do the live

thing because, number one,

I don't have time to sit here and

edit.

So we treat this whole program like live

radio.

And if anybody listens to us,

or whether you do or don't,

if you listen to us on any of

the podcast platforms,

be sure at Apple Podcasts, go over there,

give us a five-star review,

tell everybody about us,

because other people out there, I think,

need to hear this message.

You know,

I've been on the media rollercoaster as of

late promoting the Sovereign Health

Summit.

And, man, I was on America News,

whatever I was on.

Man, I can't even keep up with them.

I did three of them yesterday.

And...

Man, people are really,

really hungry for this information,

but that's a reason why YouTube is putting

the brakes on those of us out here,

like me and William,

who are trying to put out really,

really good information.

So in order to get this into the

hand of the people that need it,

you got to promote it.

So help us.

All right.

So farm news on this end,

I'm out here making bone sauce.

We finally had some days without rain and

I'm making a bunch of it.

So we got some on the website for

those that are so inclined.

Um, like I said, lots of podcasts.

I got that written down here.

So we got sheep.

I want to make sure I bring this

up right now.

The sheep are eating silver grass.

Now people heard me talk about it and

say, whoa,

you can't do that because you said you

couldn't.

Well, I didn't tell the whole story.

They will eat it when they're forced to

when it's young.

They don't like it.

It's not their favorite thing in the

world.

Now, when it grows up, forget about it.

They're not going to touch it.

They absolutely positively will not touch

it.

But when it's juvenile,

that's when we really,

really want them on it.

And then after they go through it,

I can really put the damper on it

by running a weed eater through it.

See,

For everybody out there dealing with a

problem plant, like in this case,

the silver grass was brought in by the

government.

How about that?

That's why so many of these mountains over

here are not being farmed because they're

covered up with silver grass and nobody in

the conventional sense knows how to deal

with it.

Well,

we knew initially that Michelle figured it

out that this stuff really doesn't like a

high fungal environment.

We absolutely know that.

Um, in the,

in the pasture where we have clumps of

it, well,

we had more of it and honestly,

it's all but gone for the most part.

But anyway,

what I do is go in there.

You find out, first of all,

what that plant doesn't like.

It does all of its operations on the

rhizomes.

And so if you are able to hit

it while it's vegetative,

it's gonna starve those rhizomes.

In order to keep growing,

it's gonna have to shoot energy back up

into it.

And that's what happens.

So that's why you wanna work it over

and over and over.

So when the sheep go through,

I'll go through.

Sheep go through, I'll go through.

And I'll scalp that stuff right plumb down

to the ground.

And you'll find out,

it may take a year or two,

but honestly,

I could speed it up way more if

I just put some fungal dominant compost

extract out there.

Some of these places are difficult to

reach.

So it was really not all that practical.

But if you do nothing,

find out what that thing is that is

giving you pain.

Find out everything that it hates and see

if you can't create an environment that is

not going to be favorable for whatever

that thing is.

And you find out nine times out of

ten,

that if you just do good pasture

management, good grazing,

do all those things right,

you'll find out that you'll get less of

the things you don't want and a whole

lot more of the things you do.

All right, so some other things here.

Son,

I'm wondering if you're having this issue

as well.

And I wonder how many other people out

there

Um, I,

I got an agent right now who's basically

booking me for these podcasts.

She's sending out emails.

I can't even,

I've talked before about how Dane

Wigington would send me an email and then

I get it a week later.

That sort of thing is still happening and

it's happening.

My email,

my agent sent me stuff on Monday.

I didn't get it,

but I'll get all this junk email that

I don't want.

Folks,

if you guys are trying to email me

and I'm not responding,

I'm telling you the reasons why.

They are definitely playing games,

not only with email,

but also with my phone as well.

I have no problem with telemarketers

getting through.

Somehow they make it through.

But people that I have business

arrangements with, all of a sudden,

they're not getting through.

And I'll look, call me a conspiracy nut,

call me whatever.

I really don't care.

I know that I've been very,

very outspoken on the genocide that's

happening in Gaza and some of these other

places.

And the more I talk about it,

the more we have banking problems,

phone problems, email problems,

all of these little things like that that

turn out to be big things when you

have business deals riding on it.

I'm just wondering how many other people

are dealing with this out there because

it's not just me.

I talked to other people in this space

and they just happen to have the same

doggone problem, son.

I mean,

are you having a problem on your end?

It was so bad on my end,

I had to get a new phone.

Now,

there's new issues arising with these

phones now.

They keep confusing which number is

attached to which phone.

I had that issue earlier with Emily.

She was trying to call me while I

was out in town,

and it was going to my work phone

instead of my personal phone,

so there were some issues going on there.

I thought they were resolved until that

started happening, but when I send emails,

it'll go directly into my drafts for some

reason,

as if I hit save to drafts instead

of send.

I know how to send an email.

Like, I'm not hitting the wrong button.

I've never intentionally sent an email to

drafts before.

It just never seemed like a useful

function for me.

And then, yeah, I'll have, like,

the junk mail.

Every single one of the junk mail on

my email will come right through,

no issue.

But actual emails where I'm, like,

actually having correspondence back and

forth with people,

that one will go to junk.

It doesn't make any sense.

So, yeah, I...

I don't get it.

It's the most out of everything it is

we do.

And you might agree with this, Dad.

Out of everything it is we do,

the most frustrating part or really,

I got to say,

the only frustrating part is the

technology aspect.

Right.

And the communication part of the

technology aspect.

That's the hardest and most frustrating

part of what it is like of what

I do, at least from my opinion.

Yeah, I'm right there with you.

It's one hundred percent of any agony that

your mom and I have.

It'll definitely be coming through the

electronic means.

And I know that they are doing this

on purpose.

Now, Jimmy Joe,

who always has wonderful ideas,

is trying to email that John B.

Wells is offering.

I have not.

But look, if J.B.

Wells is talking about it,

I'm definitely going to have to check it

out.

In fact,

I need to resubscribe to Caravan the

Midnight.

And I love John B.

Um,

I haven't listened to him in quite a

while.

Doggone it.

I'm glad you brought him up because I

need to start checking him out again and

see what he's up to.

Um, yeah,

we were having a little bit of

communication back and forth.

I need to reach out to him and

see if I can get on his show.

Um, yeah, John B man, he was,

he was always a jam up guy.

So,

which is why they fired him from coast

to coast because he was a little too

good at what he did.

Um, okay.

So some other things here.

Um,

Check this out.

I made this observation, as you know,

as permaculture designers,

we should be very observant to what's

happening in nature.

Here's what I've noticed.

For a while now, the chemtrails,

or at least the devices we have out

here,

have been beating off the chemtrails.

It still does,

but they fall to the ground,

and it transforms them in the air, okay?

That's what the testing is showing that's

happening.

Now, these things are very expensive.

I understand that.

But check this out.

Over the last couple of days,

they've really been spraying quite

heavily.

And I was telling everybody right here on

this podcast that, man,

we've had so many pollinators,

it'll blow your mind,

hummingbirds the whole nine yards.

Over these last several days,

because I look at them every single day,

The bees kind of fight with the

hummingbirds over the feeders.

And now all of a sudden,

there's neither of each.

On all these days where they're heavily

chemtrailing,

it's like all of them are sedated.

And we're feeling the effects as well.

But I'm noticing that whatever they're

dropping in there is definitely having an

effect on the pollinators.

So, yeah,

I just thought I'd point that out because

it looked like something out of Alfred

Hitchcock out here.

But the last couple of days,

they've been going nuts.

And of course,

there's some there's some little epidemic

going in with some kind of gut issue

all of a sudden here in North Carolina

that nobody can seem to figure out.

And I'm betting there is some correlation

out there.

Are you talking about now on the gut

thing?

Are you talking about like the recalls

they've had with the eggs and the lettuce?

Or are you talking about like the sickness

that's going around?

Because the sickness has been going around

here, too.

Yeah,

there's a late gut thing going around.

And I think I got to touch up

it myself.

Been running to the bathroom, you know,

at unscheduled times,

if you know what I'm saying.

And I have no reason for it.

And all of a sudden,

this lethargy that your mom and I both

have.

And it was like, man,

I totally got myself off of coffee last

two days, man.

I'm sitting here drinking to just a

function.

And she's telling me, your mom is like,

man,

I can't even put one foot in front

of the other right now.

And you know how hard your mom is.

And I'm sitting here saying the same

thing.

She says,

you sure you want to be drinking coffee?

And it was like twelve o'clock or twelve

p.m., which is way too late for me.

And I said, man,

I got work I got to do.

I mean, I'm sitting here.

I don't even know what planet I'm on,

but I know that they are absolutely going

crazy.

And I think they're hitting everybody.

There were eighty one kids called out of

a new Boston school earlier this week,

which for those of you guys that don't

know, new Boston,

Texas school is a very small school.

Like it's I don't know how big Tonganoxie,

Kansas is anymore,

but it was about the same.

It's about the size now as it was

when I was in Tonganoxie.

My graduating class was like one hundred

and ten,

one hundred and twenty or something like

that.

So.

It's not a massive school by any means.

And eighty one kids called out of the

high school earlier this week because they

all had the same thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a stomach bug.

I'll bet dollars to donuts that they're

dropping it from the sky.

And since nobody's out there looking after

we the people,

this is probably the latest, you know,

testing regimen that they're doing on the

people.

Because, I mean,

we are literally nothing but bugs to the

powers that shouldn't be.

And they're henchmen.

So, yeah.

Andrea saying, yeah, had it yesterday.

Still feel weird.

Yeah, I'm right there with you.

I'm in the same exact position.

I'm putting one foot in front of the

other and just trying to muscle through

it, to be honest with you.

The last thing I got here is...

Wanna remind everybody, you know,

we're the only ones around here that have

any bees at all, probably for five miles.

And a lot of it might have to

do with the practices.

Some of it might, I mean,

there's a whole bunch of reasons why that

could be the case.

But one of the things I know that

helps a great deal is we don't use

any drugs on our bees.

Yeah, you're surprised about that?

Yeah,

a lot of folks don't know that a

whole lot of beekeepers use drugs.

we don't use anything except the chickens

we use the sheep to eat the grass

down to make access for the chickens and

the chickens go around there and they wipe

out any predators that might be wanting to

mess with these bees so that's exactly how

we do it we have honey that has

zero i mean there's all you if i

i think i don't know what the percentage

is but nearly every beekeeper out there is

giving their bees some kinds of drugs

I don't know how many are not,

but I know we're among that part that

are not.

And so, yeah,

we got honey that'll knock your socks off,

one hundred percent natural.

The bees, look,

the motto here at this farm is get

loose or get lost.

If we got a baby you,

then you're either going to wind up in

the freezer or you're not going to be

here.

Or like some of these other beehives,

you ain't going to make it when the

moths show up.

But you can help them out by running

your chickens through there.

So I talked way too much, son.

Yeah, let's kick it on back to you.

You're good.

We were going back and forth,

so it wasn't just all of you.

So I got an interview with,

as you guys know,

Dad did an interview with Mike Adams

earlier.

Now I got an interview with Mike Adams,

which is going to be pretty cool.

That's going to be here in a couple

of weeks, so I'm excited about that.

Also, I should have been saying this,

but I'll be at the Mountain Readiness

later in October,

and then I'll also be at Midwest

Preparedness.

That's going to be in September.

Mountain Readiness is in North Carolina.

The Midwest Preparedness is going to be in

Kansas.

It's Clinton Lake, Kansas.

I don't remember the name of the exact

campground,

but if you type in Midwest Preparedness,

it'll definitely pop up.

I'm going to be out there this week.

Earlier, I was planting.

Not this week.

in a couple weeks earlier i was planting

some comfrey moringa some comfrey crowns

and some moringa plants that i had started

that were just in seed trays i just

needed to get them out and typically right

now would be a bad time to do

that but i noticed something in the

weather so today is about ten degrees

cooler than it was yesterday yesterday it

was a hundred and three and today it

was like ninety two ninety three which

i mean you notice the ten degrees

difference for sure but it honestly felt

like it was twenty twenty five degrees

different it was like it didn't feel like

it was ten degrees different it felt like

it was much cooler outside than it was

yesterday keep in mind yesterday was

overcast and today is full sun and there's

not like a big difference between breeze

either so it's not like the breeze is

cooling me off or anything like that it's

been

It's weird.

I kept going outside,

paying attention to what it felt like

outside because it was just odd.

It just felt so much cooler out.

That inspired me to go ahead and put

the Comfrey and the Moringa out because I

figured, well,

it'll probably be just fine.

It's on an automatic watering system too,

so I know it's going to have plenty

of water.

Believe it or not, I actually put it

in the crappier section of soil that I

have,

as opposed to the better soil that I

have.

The reason being,

if you were listening to the last episode,

I was talking to dad about how the

comfrey that I had in the really,

really good soil was not doing very good

versus the comfrey that was in like brand

new broken in soil.

Like I started planting in it this earlier

this year, uh,

and the stuff in the brand new soil

did a lot better than the stuff in

the, uh,

the well-made soil like the high biology

soil um so i put all the other

stuff the comfrey and the moringa the

leftovers that i had from there into the

crap your soil because i know that they're

going to do better than in that one

what i'm gonna have to do with the

old or the uh biologically you know

Full soil is probably plant some later

later successional plants.

So something that requires a little bit

higher fungi content,

such as like berry bushes or some

perennial herbs or something like that,

because I don't know annuals are going to

I don't know if annuals are going to

do too well in those beds anymore.

which is a cool problem to have.

Or I could also do just apply like

bacteria dominant, um,

compost over there and bring the fungi

back down and try to raise up the

bacteria as well.

But it's kind of fun to have achieved

like a high enough, um,

fungal content where annuals aren't doing

as well as they were before.

That's a pretty cool achievement.

So I don't know.

And I also got to do a whole

lot of fall garden planting and

potentially planting before I start

hitting the road again.

I got a lot of planning coming up.

So that's what I got going on.

Yeah, we got a couple of questions here.

Yeah, Juby Joe was asking about smoke.

No, smoke is perfectly fine.

You know, I like to use burlap.

It works pretty well in those little smoke

canisters.

That is absolutely no,

that's not drugs at all.

Absolutely.

Well, depends on what's in the smoke,

because there are...

I vaguely remember seeing a couple YouTube

videos of people using specialized pellets

in their smoker.

I think it was for extractions from

buildings and whatnot,

but I don't think all pellets are made

the same.

I think some are meant for maybe riskier

jobs, so keep that in mind.

Yeah,

I like to use like paper towels or

something like that or whatever I can find

on the ground,

some leaves or whatever the case may be.

I usually stack that in there.

Yeah.

Let's see.

Andrea says they've been underreporting

the temps all dang summer.

Yeah,

there it was the same thing around here

the other day.

I mean,

I'm out here wearing a doggone sweatshirt

in summer.

which normally I can go out here in

a t-shirt the whole time.

The temperature said one thing,

but reality was totally another.

Y'all,

they are playing with us up one side

and down the other.

Yeah, Pastor Lon in the house.

Yeah, right on.

There he is.

Yeah.

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All right.

So let's kick into the good news here.

All right.

Well,

the Trump-Canadian tariff war is set to

hit American wallets from toilet paper to

refrigerators to tool chests.

Okay, I brought this up for,

you're probably thinking, well,

how is that possibly good news?

Well,

the good news is if they wipe out

the toilet paper, you can grow mullein.

OK,

it's about it's probably better than

toilet paper.

Now,

I don't know if I want to try

to flush it.

You may be looking for an oak out

back, but I'm just telling you, hey,

that's the only good news I'm going to

get out of there.

But honestly,

these Canadian tariffs might be a little

bit tough on everybody.

In fact,

all this stuff is going to be tough

out there.

So, yeah, I did.

I'm calling that good news because look.

Push comes to shove.

You need to be growing mullein anyway for

medicine.

And if you have the opportunity,

like I said,

grow enough of it to where you could

possibly use it as toilet paper.

It's really, really soft.

I mean, I'll be honest with you.

Y'all, I'm old enough.

I kid you not.

Back growing up with my grandmom,

she was raising six of us boys on

welfare.

And the welfare then ain't the welfare

now.

She was in her seventies raising six boys.

And it was quite often that you'd run

out of toilet paper.

I mean,

there was almost a rationing system set up

on the toilet paper.

So you know what?

Everybody back in the day,

I know a lot of young folks don't

know about this, but yeah,

there was a thing called a Sears catalog,

and that was your plan B for the

newspaper,

and you didn't want the comics in there,

believe me.

You had the newspaper that was all...

Look,

I'm not trying to go into too much

detail, but I'm just trying to say, look,

I wish I knew about Mullen back in

the day because...

Wiping your keister with some newspaper

ain't no fun,

no matter how much you crinkle that stuff

up.

All right.

So next good news story,

avocado fraud exposed.

Now here's the good news.

Texas AG launches investigation as a study

reveals widespread adulteration.

We talked about this last time, folks,

and of all the stories that hit the

bricks right now,

this is one of the ones that really

has me aggravated to no end because

there's a whole lot of people out there

um that are into health in a big

big way and eating those seed oils like

people with heart conditions and stuff

like that man that's only going to set

it back even further i mean who even

knows how many people all these people

killed and son your mom told me about

i talked about siete and i'm really angry

about those more than anything dad we know

because you've told us ever since you

found out you brought it up every single

episode

Well, check this out.

To make it even worse,

I guess your mom was rubbing it in.

Well, that's not what she was doing.

But she tells me yesterday they still

haven't even offered a statement as to

what happened and why.

But then they came out.

But they did announce a brand new flavor

of potato chip.

And I'm like,

you people are some wicked people, man.

They've got their family on the back.

They've got a picture of their family on

there.

Right.

There's people out there probably putting

a hit list together on these folks.

Oh, okay,

that's exactly what you look like.

I know exactly.

They went and had a giant party,

put that on social media,

and then they announced a brand-new chip.

when they still haven't even addressed the

fact that they were putting fraudulent.

And you look on a bag made with

avocado oil.

Man,

if you look at that study that was

done, man,

there was almost none in there and they

were using these lousy seed oils.

And the only one that's really addressed

this is one of the ones that wasn't

even affected as your standards.

So anyway,

I'm hoping there's a whole lot of

companies that go absolutely broke because

I'm hoping Ken Paxton, the AG of Texas,

I'm hoping they wipe every last one of

those companies out.

It probably ain't going to happen given

our legal system these days.

I mean, it's, you know, rob the poor,

give to the rich.

It's a bastardized version of Robin Hood.

But anyway,

I'm just hoping that every last one of

those companies,

and I feel for the people working there,

but I hope every last one of them

gets sold out, get bankrupt, get whatever.

When you're doing this kind of garbage to

the American people,

you need to pay the piper.

All right.

And then finally, excuse me,

daily blueberries linked to lower blood

pressure, healthier heart.

Okay.

It's got those anthocyanins in there.

Anything.

That's why I eat a lot of color

in my food.

In fact,

I need to thaw out some of them

blueberries that your mom and I picked a

couple of about a month ago, I guess.

Um,

And then plus we got a whole bunch

of blueberries off our own stuff out here.

And folks, I mean,

blueberries are probably my favorite

berry.

I mean,

there's a whole lot of them out there,

but man, blueberries are right at the top.

And when you get them at peak freshness

and peak ripeness, I mean, son,

that's exactly what I was talking about in

the short I put out today.

Like I got a bowl full of apples

out here that I just picked.

And unlike the stuff that's available to

y'all in the store,

We select it.

In the stores,

they select it for shipability,

appearance.

Flavor is not even one of the things

they select for.

I kid you not.

Longevity on the shelf,

that's what they're looking for.

I do it on the basis of peak

flavor and peak nutrition.

So does everybody else out there.

Every apple you buy in the store is

a year old.

Most people don't know that.

Peaches, pears, all of it, y'all,

it is old, old, old.

They pick that stuff when it's green and

then hit it with gas to give it

that appearance.

But anyway,

if you can grow blueberries fine,

if you've got blueberry orchards around

you like we do, go that route.

Just be sure that they're not spraying any

junk on them because there's a whole lot

of people out there that are more polished

than spit and more glitter than grit.

With that,

we're going to go to my man,

Eric Sider.

Hey,

Eric Sider here with your PimpCast tip of

the day.

Today's tip,

press one for freedom or two for control.

I'm starting to wonder if inaction is a

feature, not a bug,

of the current human operating system.

It seems like almost everyone agrees we

need fundamental changes to how society

operates,

except when it means changing their own

individual behavior.

The blame game is a perfect excuse not

to do anything.

It's all Trump's fault.

Just wait till the midterms.

Amazon is the enemy, but Target is okay.

Blah, blah, blah.

It's all nonsense.

Just like the permaculture pimp says,

it's not red state, it's not blue state,

it's the state against you.

That might be on a t-shirt somewhere.

The state includes corporations.

It's all one big cesspool of demon

psychopath grifters with a seemingly

endless supply of minions willing to do

their bidding.

Maybe the minions think they'll earn a

spot in the bunker or the space station,

but if it comes to that,

I hope the nuclear fallout is fast and

complete because I have zero interest in

living among the tech twat elites.

Ooh, I think that's going on a t-shirt.

A lot of people are talking about freedom

and the surveillance state now,

which would seem to give hope that people

are seeing that it is a class war,

not a political or race war.

And really it's a war for the future

of our species on this planet,

which the elites don't want us to be

part of.

But what seems to be the reality is

people don't want freedom for everyone.

They want control and you can't have both.

Either everyone gets to say whatever the

hell they want,

or you don't have free speech.

The amount of people that will agree with

you that it's all one big club still

want their side on top.

It's just an excuse not to act,

and permaculture is all about directives

to act.

You can find me on YouTube and Instagram

at Eric Sider.

If you're in need of permaculture

t-shirts,

the official pimp gear of this pimp cast,

or remote permaculture consultation and

design, head over to ericsider.com.

And if you're in the Sacramento area,

we still have a couple spots for our

part-time,

in-person permaculture design certificate

course starting in September.

Head over to permaculturefairoaks.org.

That's my dog right there.

Once again, hit it out of the park.

I think there was a couple of technical

issues in there,

but I still got the point.

I mean, I don't even... You know,

I think I'll just leave it right where

he said, because if I'm not careful, man,

I will derail this whole thing.

I will burn this whole podcast to the

ground if I try to comment on it.

Well,

one thing I wanted to say on there

is that he brought up a good point,

is that people will more than...

They'll willingly complain about what's

going on,

but as soon as it requires them to

change anything about their life,

then they're all of a sudden fine with

the status quo.

In fact,

he's got me bugged at least because this

just happened the other day at a jiu-jitsu

practice.

There was a guy complaining about an issue

that he was going through,

and I offered him three solid different

solutions,

but he kept giving me reasons why those

solutions wouldn't work.

He was one of those people that just

wanted to complain about it,

didn't want an actual solution to the

problem.

He just wanted to complain about it.

I think, honestly,

that's a lot of what you find in

the, for lack of better terms,

conspiracy circles and stuff like that.

People that just want to get there and

complain together and then do nothing

about it when they get home.

Yeah.

The commiseration angle, man,

that's a big thing out there.

You know, people will find some way and,

you know,

we talk a lot about it in the

health space.

Like when we had Morley Robbins on the

other day, you know, I'm like, okay,

how many people are listening to this

podcast?

The guy doxed himself and gave you his

number.

And I know he answers because I've

actually called him more than my wife

multiple times.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And if he doesn't answer,

he will get back to you.

I mean, the guy, he must be,

his phone must be like a nuclear meltdown

device right now.

But yeah,

there's so many people out there that are

dealing with a health issue and, um,

i i don't know why they're not taking

every avenue you know that's available to

them especially when there's people out

there that are doing it they're rocking

for the love in the big way because

they love people and they can't stand what

this system has become it's just one awful

real mess um anyway let's go to some

of these questions here uh or comments uh

can't wait until the health summit yeah av

acres that'll be great to see you uh

danielle uh a

Yeah, I saw that.

I think it's Daniel.

He said he's trying to send me an

email.

We just got done talking about that.

I will check my junk folder and see

if it's in there.

If not, if you post your email,

I can write it down and send you

an email.

Yeah.

Well, son,

tell him your email for the people out

there that might be interested.

The permacultureconsultant at gmail.com.

It's linked down below in the description

of everything.

So you should be able to find it

there if you don't remember it here.

But it's just my YouTube channel name at

gmail.com.

All right.

So it would be nice to see them

get sued.

Andrew, I'm right there with you.

And of course,

we get an amen for Eric.

I mean, he always brings it, man,

every single time.

And it's always something that every time

I hear him do it, I'm thinking, man,

I could go one eighty right here right

now.

So what do we got here?

Well,

I think because you were bringing you were

talking about microgreens last episode,

I figured this would be a good question

for you.

This is from Maverick, Cuba,

thirteen oh nine.

When I bring microgreens,

it's more about have you let them mature

past month to see what they look like?

They seem like a quick way to grow

mature plants,

the germination time and rate.

And then he or that I don't know

if it's a he or she,

but they were saying also, once again,

I would love to super chat,

but it won't allow them.

yeah yeah we believe you there's a whole

lot of um coincidences that seem to happen

whenever we're on here um yeah so okay

regarding those microgreens yeah i have

let them go for quite a bit just

to see what would happen and in fact

i got a batch out there right now

but

if you have them growing up in the

methods that i've been talking about as of

late if you don't harvest them they will

get shaded out they will not out compete

for example the beans i have them in

the rows in between the beans out here

um they're being shaded out in one of

the beds so i'm like okay you snooze

you lose you better get them while

everything is kind of low

Otherwise you're going to have an issues

or depending on what you're growing out

there, they could shade out what it is,

but that's an easy fix.

You just go through and make yourself a

salad and have a nice day.

But yeah, I've eaten them early.

I've eaten them mature.

I've eaten them all the way around and

it's still, still,

still great salad greens,

no matter how you go.

And at least I know they weren't picked

in Mexico with somebody out in those

fields without a port of John.

And, um, you know, they do some,

you know, they,

they handle the business out in the field

sometimes.

So, uh,

yeah i will say if you're doing that

to start like for seed like plant starts

like you're planning on separating them

out thinning them out and then separating

them and then planting them out in the

garden that's where i end up killing a

lot of them is in the separating them

out part i don't know if my fingers

aren't delicate enough or small enough i

don't know what it is but a lot

of them die and separating them out and

then trying to get them planted in other

spots so

Pay attention to that.

They might work well until it's time to

thin them out or separate them.

And then you're up here killing a bunch

of plants like me.

I tried that method earlier this year.

It did not work well for me.

Yeah,

I don't thin out the microgreens at all.

I just like the beets.

You may want to thin those out.

I don't care if they're small.

My time, I have to be very,

very economical with my time.

So I go really,

really heavy with the microgreens because

I'm just going to go through with a

pair of scissors anyway, cut them off,

and then just move on.

So I'm like...

Look, man,

I get a fresh salad every single day

better than anything I could hope to buy

in a supermarket or at a farmer's market

because I guarantee the ones at the

farmer's market are growing them in an

inert medium in the house.

They're not even in the ballpark,

not even in the galaxy of the stuff

you're able to grow if you do it

yourself and you got them in soil.

So that's the way I'm doing it.

The other ways are also a way to

go about it as well.

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All right.

I'm bringing that up because the world

wouldn't be in such a snarl if marks

have been Groucho instead of Carl.

Anyway, yeah,

there's probably a certain number of folks

who won't necessarily get that joke.

But anyway, it's funny to me.

Um, title of this one,

you don't need more land.

You need more layers.

And what do I mean by that?

I can't even tell you how many people

reach out and say, well, man,

I wish I could be a farmer.

I see this a lot on X.

It's some of the stuff that I post

on, uh, X, man,

I wish I could farm.

I have a matchbox backyard and you don't,

and they have no idea.

Everybody and myself once upon a time used

to think very two-dimensionally when it

comes to farming.

A lot of people think in acres,

but they seldom think in dimensions.

Very, very seldom.

That's why I refer so many people back

to that video that Eric did on a

balcony facing the wrong way and how much

food you can grow

in a tiny little apartment balcony it is

astonishing my man even had a mini pond

out there i mean he was growing everything

out there that's why i tell everybody to

go back there and check that video out

because if you can do that much think

about it if you can do that much

in crates on a balcony what can you

do if you have just a regular standard

backyard but we got to start thinking

outside of the two-dimensional space

I mean, thinking wise,

I think we ought to be doing some

five-dimensional thinking,

but conventional farming tends to focus on

one plane.

And because that's what most of us are

presented,

we tend not to think about that.

That's why permaculture asks, really,

You know, what can grow above the soil?

What can grow in the soil?

What can grow beneath it?

Overhead, sideways,

all these different places.

So that's the way I'm going to kick

this off right now,

because there's a lot of you that could

be growing a ton of food,

but you just haven't utilized.

I'm not just going to say vertical,

but I'm saying, well,

I'll come to that in a minute.

So go ahead.

Well, yeah.

So whenever you brought up the topic to

me,

the way I took it was like examples

of where somebody thinks they've maxed out

a particular system in ways that they can

increase production or increase yield in

that particular system without having to

increase the amount of land that they have

or the amount of land that they don't

have if they're borrowing land or whatever

it may be.

So that's kind of how I took it.

And the first one that I had was

actually,

I encountered this example in my first

permaculture design course over in Plano.

In our final designs,

there was this guy talking about how he

had cows on his pasture.

And he could hold, right now,

he could hold X amount of cows on

this pasture.

And an immediate way he thought he could

increase the cows on the pasture was by

putting up vertical trellises in the

middle of the pasture

growing kudzu on those trellises in the

middle of those pastures.

Now,

that's pretty innovative.

He's going to have a management issue if

he ever stops grazing cows,

because then you got to figure out what

to do with the kudzu.

Or you could really just hit it really,

really hard with a bunch of animals for

a long period of time,

and it'll eventually go away then.

But that was a way he could increase

the amount of cows he could have on

his property without buying any more

pasture,

and also without having to wait the time

to increase pasture quality.

Now,

I don't know how he worked it out

as far as his grazing plan went,

but

I thought it was a pretty innovative idea

and have been kind of curious to see

if anybody would be, you know,

tempted to try it themselves on

consultations and stuff like that.

So far, everybody said no.

So it'll be interesting to get somebody to

say yes.

Yeah, for me,

I kind of everything I do,

whether it's in the garden or

The vegetable garden in the high tunnel,

well, not so much the high tunnel.

That's usually your mom's primary space

out there.

But I'll try to look at everything in

how a forest is constructed because there

are layers.

We got the overstory, the understory,

the shrubs, vines, herbs, ground cover,

fungi.

And then here's what a lot of us

fail to realize.

is that whether you're in there or not,

there are animals occupying that space.

I mean, there may be ones.

So what I'm saying is,

is I'm looking at the architecture in

nature and saying, huh, at every level,

what if I put a food,

what if I put a nitrogen fixture and

something edible at every single layer?

Well, down in our food forest right now,

folks,

I'm not lying when I tell you this

thing is on autopilot.

I put it out in the video I

did today, the short video.

that YouTube is suppressing and everybody

else too,

because they don't want people to see that

this,

once you get these things on autopilot,

all you have to do is come in

there and collect.

So,

and you want to explain yield to everybody

out there, what, you know,

why the yield in a food forest is

so awesome.

Yeah, if you think of yield as profit,

I think that's the best way to kind

of make people understand it.

So your yield is what you get out

of the system after you subtract all of

your costs into that system.

And one cost that most people don't

subtract from that system,

everybody subtracts like the monetary

costs from the system.

But nobody counts for how many calories

they put into a system.

So if the system is very,

very cheap to,

like the chicken tractor on steroids,

it's very cheap to operate because you're

using other people's waste streams.

It's very cheap to operate.

But the main input on that system is

your calories that you put into that

system.

So you have to subtract that from your

overall, like your end result.

You have to subtract your calories from

that.

And then what's left over is your yield.

Or you have to subtract your inputs,

whatever they may be.

One of those inputs that people overlook a

lot are the calories on your end.

So-

um that's what yield is and the less

work you have to put into a system

the greater your yield is going to be

even if it's sacrificing a little bit of

uh production in return you just have to

calculate that out and see where the sweet

spot is

And I would also suggest that you put

your monetary value in there because time

is money.

And this is what Joel Salatin complained

so much about when it comes to a

lot of producers, younger or, you know,

small producers.

Well, they raised all these chickens.

They took them to the farmer's market and

they sold them.

But what was your time?

You know, what was that worth?

So this is what I'm getting at, folks,

is because we are growing in dimensions

and like we got trees out here.

You know, if you got a tree there,

could you grow a vine of, let's say,

Japanese yams up the side of it?

I mean,

could you grow beans up the side of

that tree,

provided that it's robust and it can

handle the weight?

There are things you could be growing.

Instead of just having that single fruit

tree out there by itself,

is there something that would bind up that

thing that would also, I mean,

depending on the size of the tree,

you might want to put grapes up that

bad boy.

You might want to run currants up there.

There's so many different things,

but none of us,

I ain't going to say none of us,

very few of us think about, huh,

Is there a layer?

Is there something else I can put in

here that might enhance everything?

You got people like John Kemp that talk

about the value of having multiple plant

families in the same area.

What we find out is,

let's just say you have two different

plant families growing together.

You know, there's going to be,

it might be Brown versus Board of

Education, but when you find out,

we find out that when you put at

least seven different plant families in

close proximity to one another,

there's almost this

autopilot thing that takes off in a big,

big way.

And all of a sudden,

everything starts to cooperate with one

another.

It's a pretty big deal.

In fact,

I'm doing an experiment on it right now.

But really, that's what a food forest is.

You're just kind of writing yourself out

of the equation in so many different ways.

But so let me kick it on over

to you.

The next thing that I would think about

whenever you're trying,

let's say you're in the hypothetical,

you have a piece of property and you

think you've maxed it out,

which I have never seen anybody even come

close to the max production on a piece

of property,

no matter how small it is or anything

like that.

There's always a place where you can

increase yield.

But if you're sitting there and you're

thinking, all right,

I have one main system on this property.

I need to increase yield or increase

profits or increase either one of those.

I need to expand this particular system.

Instead of thinking that,

think of what other systems you could

potentially introduce to that property

that doesn't need any individual space,

any more individual unique space or

anything like that,

that can occupy the same space that you're

utilizing.

that you can introduce to your property to

increase yield that way.

Because for example,

and I know this is a very basic

example,

but let's say you have twenty five acres

of cows.

You have your cows running on those twenty

five acres and you've done the

regenerative agriculture.

You're at max organic matter in the soil.

Let's just pretend you have everything

maxed out on that pasture and you've hit

the max number of cows you have.

Instead of thinking, oh,

I need more land to increase this one

particular system,

think of what else you can introduce to

that pasture.

You could introduce trees,

and that increases your yield by

introducing a tree crop.

You can increase multiple different

species,

which is going to increase your yield

because now you're getting yields from

multiple different species as opposed to

your cows.

And not any one of these systems are

necessarily taking away from the cows.

They're occupying and utilizing different

parts of the pasture that weren't being

utilized before, like sheep.

are going to graze different parts of the

grass than the cows are going to graze.

Sheep tend to like to go behind cows.

Chickens, that's another thing.

They're going to actually go through a lot

of the cow manure.

They're not even going to deal with or

mess with anything the cow's going to eat.

The trees,

they're going to occupy above the cows,

and they're going to occupy a very,

very small space in with the cows,

and then they're going to occupy a lot

of space below the cows.

Not really getting in the way of the

cows at all,

and it turns out to be a symbiotic

relationship providing shade for the cows.

So

If you get to the point where you're

like, man,

the only way to increase yield is to

increase this particular system.

I need more land to increase this system.

Ask yourself,

is there any new system I can introduce

to this property to increase yield?

It's not a particular point that I'm

getting across here.

It's a thought process I'm trying to get

across here.

Yeah,

I'm going to piggyback on that because

there's also something I was,

it's kind of expanding on what you said

there.

I was using the example of,

I was thinking about a mulberry tree.

Everything should have multiple functions

out there.

I mean, it's not just a tree,

it's producing berries.

Of course, I love mulberries.

Very nostalgic for me for a whole variety

of reasons.

Yeah, mulberries.

But, you know,

it's going to provide shade,

obviously wildlife habitat.

You know, you got the biomass,

you got the roots.

And then you got fodder out there as

well,

depending on how you want to use that

tree.

You got to ask yourself, how many jobs,

how many different jobs is that one

element doing?

I mean that.

You want to do it with everything that

you possibly can,

even all the way down to your smallest

elements.

Because you're going to find out if, man,

if you can get yourself to think about

man, you know, it's providing shade,

it's doing this, it's doing that.

Oh,

maybe I want to go ahead and put

that mulberry tree over by that pond,

Bill Mollison style,

and let it feed the fish in that

pond.

Every time, you know,

that part of the tree, you know,

I'll take the side that's over the land,

you know, I'll get those.

But the ones,

that tree that's sticking over that pond,

huh,

that might be a pretty good place to

feed my fish or any other things that

you may have in there, crawdads, whatever.

I don't know if they're going to mess

with it,

but I think you get the point.

So if you can get yourself into thinking,

how many different functions can I get out

of this thing?

I think you're going to be better served

for it.

Real quick, A.V.

Akers is saying, if you're in Amarillo,

Texas,

I'll actually be not far from there in

September.

So shoot me an email if you're needing

help out there.

She was saying, or they are saying,

they've had negative ten degree winters

and over forty five days of one hundred

degrees, which is insane.

But my next point is.

And that dad brought up at the beginning

of this section by increasing the

dimensions of what you're planting.

So not just like one dimension,

but you're also hitting all seven layers,

eight layers of a forest.

Also include the dimension of time, too,

because you can increase yield as time

goes by.

If you're not like in an immediate hurry

to start increasing yield,

just give it more time.

For example,

if I will use the twenty five acres

and cows again.

The number of cows that I can put

on any given twenty five acres around here

in Texas is not the number of cows

I'm going to end up with ten years

from now.

I might be able to start with,

let's say,

ten cows on twenty five acres here doing

the proper rotational grazing.

And that's that's a high number.

I'm just giving you an example.

say I'm starting off with ten cows on

twenty five acres here as I increase,

as I do the right thing,

as I rotate them properly and things like

that,

I can increase forage density by three

hundred percent per season if I'm doing

everything correctly,

especially especially in a semi arid

Mediterranean climate like this part of

Texas.

um so that means i can increase stocking

density as time goes by i can increase

the amount of cows which is going to

increase my yield and it's not costing me

any more calories to move twelve cows

versus ten cows versus fifteen cows

doesn't cost me any more energy so i

don't have to i don't have to account

for the extra cows in my calorie input

or anything like that so and then same

thing with uh like main crop let's say

you're doing like large scale corn or soy

or wheat or and you're trying to do

it

the right way.

You might start off with pretty low

bushels per acre.

It might be pretty crappy bushels per acre

because you're in the process of building

the soil.

And as time goes by,

as you make that soil better and better

and better,

then you start getting higher and higher

yields without increasing the amount of

land that you have.

And then you might introduce like

polyculture and then you start

diversifying your yields and you start

increasing yields that way.

because some plants might be ready to

harvest you could harvest instead of just

doing wheat by doing a polyculture you

could get harvest in between your wheat

harvest and things like that which would

also increase your yields without

increasing

the amount of land that you would have

to buy just utilizing the fourth dimension

of time.

And that's something that really makes

permaculture a lot different than every

other design system is that permaculture

accounts for the time quotient,

whereas no other design system accounts or

plans for time to occur, which is crazy.

Yeah, it is.

I'm going to say put your livestock,

folks, and I don't care what element,

what level you're working on.

Okay,

so you can have a separate orchard over

here,

or you could run your sheep in this

pasture.

How about a silvopasture where you're

combining both?

Now, when you've got larger animals,

let's say it's going to be cows and

stuff like that,

I can't even believe I got to tell

folks this,

but they will mix the cows in there

with these small fruit trees and then

wonder why they got problems.

Look,

that's the reason why you got electrified

fence.

They may be occupying the same place,

but you make sure that your electric wire

is going to keep the animals on the

side that they're supposed to be on.

I'm just floored that I even got to

tell folks this.

Or there's another case,

a famous case where a guy built a

swale

you know,

was going to put trees and stuff on

it,

but you let your cows loose on it

before it had a chance to really become

what it was.

And then you wonder why,

and it should have been a,

it should have been better designed.

I mean,

my point is instead of all this isolation

that everybody feels like they have to

have, you can have fruits, nuts,

fodder trees.

I mean, managed sheep in this vegetation,

um, all at the same time,

you could be sharing with them,

but it just takes a little bit of

planning.

Back to you.

My next one is before before implementing,

let's say you're brand new to a property

and before you're implementing anything on

the property of your own systems,

your own design or anything like that,

take account of what's an inherent yield

on the property.

You wouldn't believe how many yields just

go to the wayside just because people

don't take the time to stop and recognize

what's already coming with the property.

For example, this property right here,

there were two major yields that came with

this property.

just by being on the property.

That was a persimmon yield and a pecan

yield.

Both of those were inherent yields that

all I have to do is not mess

with them.

And I'll get that yield every single year.

But you'll get people who get that exact

situation, mess with the yield,

mess with the system,

and then implement something that yields

far less and requires far more calories.

So keep that in mind.

Calculate and take account of the yield

that comes inherently with the property.

And if you haven't done that,

you can always go back and start doing

it right now.

Yeah, I'm going to say one.

Okay, let's say you have,

I'm going to say stack functions through

time.

Here's what I'm talking about.

When we kicked off our food forest out

there,

obviously there are little trees when you

put them in.

So the space is in between those trees.

Do you think I might be able to

grow annuals out there?

Absolutely.

Before the canopy starts becoming, well,

what it is now,

man,

there was a whole lot of things we

could do in that space.

But that's what I'm saying.

You stack it with time because over time,

that canopy is going to grow.

If you're doing the right things and the

trees are growing and all these things are

happening, all of a sudden,

the things that you were able to grow

out there, you can't grow anymore.

Well, that also means, well,

it doesn't mean that you lost everything.

It just means you got another opportunity.

So let's say I can't grow strawberries

over there anymore because I'm just not

getting adequate sunlight.

Okay, well,

Let's see what is going to do well

down there.

We're finding out that our blueberries,

I thought that was going to be a

problem because I didn't do any pruning

this last winter.

I just didn't have the bandwidth.

And honestly,

the blueberries have done better this

year.

It's like they're doing better in

speckled...

sunlight than he did in open sunlight,

it's pretty astonishing what I see

happening down there.

Highly fungal environment,

and they are doing exceptionally well.

I can't even begin to tell you how

many blueberries I've eaten out of there.

But just understand that as these things

mature,

it opens up an opportunity for you to

do some pretty awesome things.

So you don't have to have that blank

space out there.

Don't.

Just grow things that are going to work

with the transition of time.

And I think this is my last one,

right, Dan?

Yeah.

Yeah.

My last one is try to think of

ways you can produce a yield using other

people's waste streams.

And this doesn't necessarily require any

more space or you could use it as

a way to save up to get like

an actual piece of property if you wanted

to.

Here's my thinking with that is like

mushrooms.

All you need is a closet.

Microgreens,

all you need base minimum is a closet.

Those things,

if you're living in some sort of

structure,

You probably have access to some of those

parks.

If you live anywhere near the park that

I'm at right now,

you could grow whatever you wanted to.

And nobody's going to notice because me

and my daughter are the only ones that

go to that doggone park.

Nobody plays at parks anymore,

especially if you plant it along the wood

line.

And if you put up a little temporary

fence,

there's volunteers that mow that place.

If you give them less space to mow,

it's not like they're going to be like,

no, I got to mow this.

It's my job.

I got to mow this.

They're going to go around it.

if you make their job easier they're gonna

they're gonna typically go along with it

um

Also, okay,

so the university that reached out to your

dad and was wanting to pay you to

take food scraps,

you could do this job with no land

at all.

You could be the middleman that goes and

picks up that feed.

Let's say you don't even have any animals.

You could be the middleman that goes and

picks up that feed,

brings it to the farms, deliver that,

use that money to then fund your own

farm in the future.

And then you could hire somebody out for

like a fraction of the pay to do

that job while you're now farming.

There's a bunch of different things you

can do.

You can utilize.

You can do the Curtis Stone.

I think it's the Curtis Stone method where

he's farming other people's front yards

and stuff like that.

Or the Sasuke dude up in Kansas City.

Wasn't his name Sasuke?

saste saste yeah um the saste dude over

in kansas city where he's using abandoned

lots in kansas city there's more abandoned

land like in texas when i was doing

seventy five hard a couple summers ago and

i was walking around like the neighborhood

it made me realize like how many abandoned

houses there are around here and they're

not for sale they're just flat out

abandoned and then i found out things with

the nursing homes and stuff like that and

realized why they're looking abandoned and

things um

But there's a bunch of unused land.

All you have to do is decide in

your head that either you're going to

utilize it until somebody tells you not

to.

And even if they tell you not to,

you're still going to do it.

You just have to have like the I

guess the courage to just go do it

to be, I guess,

willing to fail doing it or being willing

to be yelled at for doing it because

there's going to be a Karen at some

point.

But.

you know, they'll get over it.

So keep on going.

Well, like Teddy Roosevelt said,

fail while daring greatly.

All right, y'all.

Hope that was a blessing to you.

I got to get bouncing here.

I got another meeting I got to get

to.

And honestly,

it was a joy to hang out with

everybody.

Look, y'all,

this world's getting crazier and crazier,

but it doesn't have to be all crazy.

Think about those things you can grow in

some of the weirdest places possible.

All right.

Until next time, stay alert.

Stay alive.

We've got the answers,

all we need to do.

Listen to the earth,

they've got us through.

See the change, watch the world spin,

from the smallest sprout,

to the harmony begin,

in the cycle of life,

where the magic's alive,

tune it to the beat,

feel the fire and thrive.

So much wisdom in the