02:12.96
Vance 😈
All right, welcome back to Right Quick.

02:17.18
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer unfriendly black hotties.

02:23.51
Vance 😈
we're unfriendly today because you niggas... I was gonna say hard-art, so sorry. ah Lack imagination. I am Vance Gowe.

02:33.66
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi. Yeah, niggas are, especially right now, niggas the least imaginative and that's by design.

02:41.91
Vance 😈
Right, it's the um it's the anti-ant ah anti-intellectual move that's happening.

02:42.21
Nandi K
It's by design.

02:46.93
Vance 😈
like i so I don't really talk to people that like be espousing the anti-intellectual, so I think it's downplayed to me.

02:53.43
Nandi K
yeah, me neither.

02:55.99
Vance 😈
like

02:56.45
Nandi K
Yeah.

02:56.82
Vance 😈
Until I see it in a while, then I be shook.

02:58.39
Nandi K
yeah

03:00.12
Vance 😈
And then I'm like, oh, I forgot.

03:02.46
Nandi K
No, I have a younger siblings, so I'll be seeing it.

03:02.65
Vance 😈
Because...

03:05.34
Nandi K
I'll be seeing how they can't necessarily like connect some of the dots. I always tell this story about how my sister said low rise jeans are cute to me like two years ago.

03:16.76
Nandi K
And I said, are they cute or is the person wearing them just skinny?

03:17.09
Vance 😈
Yeah.

03:23.83
Nandi K
because i came up when low rise jeans were at their height the first time. And i guarantee you they're skinny. And this is not a good sign that you're even saying this.

03:41.34
Nandi K
Fast forward to today, fast forward Ariana Grande, fast forward to all these skeletal looking bitches.

03:45.46
Vance 😈
yeah Yeah

03:48.38
Nandi K
And it's like, I i literally said it And she was like, no,

03:53.33
Vance 😈
Right Well I mean I think Yeah I mean I guess I'm always I'm always talking about movies With like people I know Sometimes people online And very much that Where like Even things that are shown in your face Niggas have a hard time connecting Like Like you know I don't know I'm not saying like You're you're like your young sister I could see a young person Never thinks about

03:53.91
Nandi K
Okay.

04:01.46
Nandi K
Mm hmm. Yep.

04:16.73
Vance 😈
maybe fat phobia or bodies, maybe having a, like, maybe having a, like, maybe, maybe needing to hear it to be, make the connection first, but like, would she, mm-hmm,

04:24.96
Nandi K
Gen who grew up as like the most surveilled, won't do shit because they're afraid of somebody thinking something is cringe, is not thinking about their bodies.

04:31.95
Vance 😈
cringe, yeah, I guess, mm-hmm, yeah,

04:36.79
Nandi K
That's all they're thinking about. Like teenagers are also always thinking about their bodies. Like everyone is always thinking about even just your own body.

04:48.28
Nandi K
Because if you're not, that's also weird because it's where you live.

04:48.49
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.

04:50.97
Vance 😈
Yeah. of I was talking to someone last night on like a dating app and we were like, we were were having a decent conversation considering what we were having at. And ah i asked I asked some dumb ass poetic shit.

05:01.11
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

05:04.60
Vance 😈
Like it was months ago. This person responded months after and it it was just like, we we were, we were i was giving them shit about it. But um i so I think I said, what is the...

05:18.30
Vance 😈
What is, i said something stupid. Like, what is the nature of your heart or something like something dumb.

05:23.44
Nandi K
Well, yeah.

05:23.82
Vance 😈
ah I must have seen it.

05:24.76
Nandi K
Had to.

05:25.30
Vance 😈
I must have seen it somewhere. It was like, let me write to this. Cause yikes, yikes.

05:29.18
Nandi K
I'm dead.

05:30.74
Vance 😈
But anyway, ah I wrote that to a stranger.

05:31.21
Nandi K
Yikes. if

05:33.30
Vance 😈
And it so ah but I brought it up

05:34.27
Nandi K
Yikes.

05:36.54
Vance 😈
And he said, oh, that's introspective. i only do that like once a year. And I was like, yikes. So I was like, I was like, you sound like a straight man right now.

05:43.77
Nandi K
ya

05:47.66
Vance 😈
Like, what is this? So um again, i was talking shit. I don't know why I was talking shit to this man like that, but I was going in on him. Like, I was like, you sound like a straight man. Like, what do you mean?

05:56.57
Nandi K
No, just like a man.

05:57.15
Vance 😈
He's. Uh, uh.

05:57.85
Nandi K
i don't see any... i don't I'm no differentiator of men. I'm no respecter of men, okay? You just sound like a man.

06:05.92
Vance 😈
Fuck off, bitch.

06:07.67
Nandi K
i have plenty of gay friends.

06:08.31
Vance 😈
What? ex Intro?

06:09.59
Nandi K
The reviews say that's just men.

06:10.07
Vance 😈
yeah

06:13.26
Nandi K
Let's ask the audience.

06:13.37
Vance 😈
Wait. if

06:15.39
Aaron Rand Freeman
Yeah.

06:16.63
Vance 😈
Wait, introspection? You're not asking me. Introspection once um once a year is crazy.

06:23.73
Nandi K
You're a lesbian, a he, him lesbian. Like you're a he, him lesbian.

06:28.76
Vance 😈
where what What is the topic?

06:33.83
Nandi K
Like anyways, we're talking about a black imagination. ah August just kicked off and it's black August, which we thought was a good time to talk about black liberation and specifically how,

06:50.87
Nandi K
Black liberation and ah imagination are tied. Why did you want to talk about this?

06:58.71
Vance 😈
So, I mean, you i think you remember Mo Better Blues, we used to do this.

07:02.58
Nandi K
ah Yes. Oh, I think that was the one where we met. You had the imagination line.

07:06.33
Vance 😈
The first one.

07:07.58
Nandi K
Oh, no.

07:07.86
Vance 😈
Yes. And I was, I was, uh, so Mo' Better Blues was this Black Hill and Space that we used to do Like, uh, it was bi-weekly.

07:09.14
Nandi K
oh

07:15.22
Vance 😈
We used to do it, uh, every, every other week. And, um, yeah, we would just meet and talk about shit. Sometimes we would read an article, whatever. It was just like a Black Hill and Space. But, um, me and Nandi, I think that's literally how we met.

07:24.73
Nandi K
Yeah.

07:27.58
Vance 😈
Like, the first time at least.

07:27.77
Nandi K
It is.

07:29.33
Vance 😈
Uh, you came, you came out to visit our other mutual friend. And then I was actually the facilitator. I was talking about Black Imagination. So I think for me, this is was always on my mind, like just how um us as a people are present.

07:45.02
Vance 😈
Our reality is never a good time. um the The reality imagined for us is never good. Sometimes we're not even in it. You know, you look at ah you look at Tolkien's work.

07:55.02
Nandi K
mmhmm.

07:56.66
Vance 😈
You look at all the like sci fi pre pre the last 10 years, maybe like they've never had black people in it.

07:57.11
Nandi K
so, mmhmm. mmhmm. yeah.

08:02.97
Vance 😈
So. These motherfuckers can't even imagine. They can't even imagine a reality with us in it, even though they need us for everything they do to make them better, at least in this country.

08:13.73
Vance 😈
So we have to imagine outside of that and better and different like to survive.

08:18.49
Nandi K
yeah.

08:20.02
Vance 😈
So I think it's just always like kind of in my mind. um Also, like just you know as a um it's hard for me to be like, I'm an artist because like I don't do one thing, but um creating space, it's fair.

08:30.22
Nandi K
Okay. We're going to work on that because what artist does one thing? I don't know a single artist that does one thing.

08:36.60
Vance 😈
That's fair.

08:38.66
Nandi K
I do like eight things.

08:39.10
Vance 😈
But like, you do. You do a lot.

08:41.59
Nandi K
Yeah, I do so many things.

08:41.63
Vance 😈
You're Jamaican.

08:43.23
Nandi K
I'm the epitome of an artist. I'm like, what are you saying? Don't say that about my friend. I'll kill you.

08:48.63
Vance 😈
Fair.

08:48.89
Nandi K
see

08:49.07
Vance 😈
Crazy. Wild. But...

08:50.20
Nandi K
yeah Do not talk about my friend.

08:51.98
Vance 😈
Woo!

08:52.80
Nandi K
I don't dare you talk down on my friend like that. It's crazy.

08:56.57
Vance 😈
but But... But yeah, I think imagination is how we get through. But on top of how we get through, it's just like the... We... ah so We have so much imagination.

09:07.42
Vance 😈
We have to like produce or at least like expound, take it out of us because if we didn't, we would just be in this reality dealing with like they have for us and it's no good.

09:14.65
Nandi K
a

09:21.37
Nandi K
Yeah, I mean, I'm doing a little bit of both, I think.

09:25.24
Vance 😈
What?

09:26.17
Nandi K
A little bit of keeping it in and a little bit of letting it out. Everything isn't safe for outside.

09:31.87
Vance 😈
No, and I mean,

09:34.24
Nandi K
all my imaginations aren't outside safe.

09:35.23
Vance 😈
That's fair.

09:38.07
Vance 😈
That's fair. I mean, sometimes maybe a journal. i don't know, but you got to lock it You got to hide that thing.

09:41.08
Nandi K
Exactly. a journal is one great place. Correct. Yeah, absolutely.

09:45.02
Vance 😈
a journal is a real good place. Like, I would say, like, for the girls to have, like, because I mean, every, I mean, I will even take that back about not being artist. I think everybody's an artist.

09:55.41
Vance 😈
um Bitch, cooking is, who is, like, even evil people, they be creating shit.

09:57.08
Nandi K
don't know about, I don't know if I would go that far.

10:02.46
Vance 😈
Yeah.

10:03.45
Nandi K
That doesn't make you an artist.

10:03.96
Vance 😈
miss missy Misery Misery

10:04.81
Nandi K
Creation is not inherently art, though. I don't think creation is inherently art. So I don't think everyone is an artist.

10:13.62
Vance 😈
The I mean I guess that's what you define art as though Because we're talking about the ability to create I guess everyone has the potential

10:16.83
Nandi K
Like...

10:23.77
Nandi K
Yeah, but there's all different kinds of creation.

10:23.77
Vance 😈
but

10:26.01
Nandi K
All creation isn't art, doesn't result in art. There might be an art to the process, but that doesn't mean the final product is art, right?

10:36.73
Vance 😈
Yeah, but I mean, what do we, i like, ah but I guess that's why, like, even when I say, like, I don't always hold that, because I'm not, like, creating a specific thing that is art or whatever.

10:37.18
Nandi K
But

10:46.37
Vance 😈
But, like, cooking, for instance.

10:46.74
Nandi K
and then you want to say everybody are artists, but you leaving yourself out. Which one is it?

10:50.87
Vance 😈
But, like, oh, my God.

10:51.62
Nandi K
You're a flip-flopper. not

10:54.01
Vance 😈
Not not this hard. Yeah.

10:56.29
Aaron Rand Freeman
Hmm.

10:56.98
Nandi K
So one, you're not an artist. You don't like calling yourself an artist because you do too many things. Now everybody's an artist, but you're definitely an artist.

11:08.98
Vance 😈
I don't hold that. i'm not an artist. I'm an artist. No, but I was just going to bring up the whole idea, even food, right?

11:11.64
Nandi K
Okay, great.

11:15.93
Vance 😈
Like when I make like, bitch, you can't tell me this ain't art. Like the, like the process, like even being creative and like, like, like adjusting on the fly and making something.

11:25.02
Nandi K
But I think your approach to cooking is art.

11:27.79
Aaron Rand Freeman
Thank you.

11:30.04
Nandi K
My mama's approach to cooking, not fucking art, bro.

11:32.63
Vance 😈
Yeah. Just throw it. Just throw it. Some shit in a,

11:34.81
Nandi K
Like, I also think of one of our friends who doesn't really speak very highly of food. I imagine that when she cooks, it's also not art. I think when me and you cook, it's definitely art because we love cooking.

11:51.96
Nandi K
We think about different ways to cook. We're always thinking about cooking. You know, like we're passionate about it. It's something we do. not just because we have to eat, right? Which I would say those people that I'm naming just had to eat.

12:08.34
Vance 😈
Yeah, that's like fuel.

12:08.44
Nandi K
We don't want to just eat. We want to eat something that we really like and that we also kind of enjoy making, like, you know?

12:17.82
Vance 😈
Yeah. No, i feel that. and and And again, like getting it to a point, like when you try the food and you're like, oh yeah, that's missing this. And you just kind of tweak it slightly.

12:27.06
Nandi K
Yes, and this is to me the difference between like art and not art, right? Because like the kind of like iterative process of being like, okay, I can change this the next time I do it.

12:33.02
Vance 😈
That's fair. And

12:39.83
Vance 😈
Right, right, right.

12:40.22
Nandi K
like Thinking about refining it, making things better, you know?

12:44.44
Vance 😈
getting feedback uh getting it getting feedback uh we talk about feedback feedback a lot on this podcast uh no but get getting and receiving feedback like it's just like and i mean i know everybody's different right because like some people cannot like some people are like i'm fighting you bitch and this is like wait but anyway um but yes we're talking about imagination um what is your relationship to imagination

12:46.26
Nandi K
Getting feedback, pew, pew, pew, shots fired.

12:54.81
Nandi K
Yeah. Yes, absolutely.

13:04.22
Nandi K
ah

13:09.14
Nandi K
yeah

13:13.59
Nandi K
You know, i've been thinking about imagination a lot more over the past three years years, because I started playing Dungeons and Dragons, which I had never played before.

13:27.22
Vance 😈
That's very imaginative.

13:29.56
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:29.82
Vance 😈
Yes.

13:30.49
Nandi K
And when I first started playing, one, I was talking to a friend of mine that is a teaching artist. And i was talking to them about my first game that I did in like an all-Black setting where this like Black GM taught us how to build characters. And then we did a one-shot as part of the learn how to play D&D situation.

13:53.82
Nandi K
And when I was telling my friend how much I enjoyed it or how I'm like, I was such a natural at role play. And she was like, they were like, oh, you were playing. And I was like, oh.

14:08.60
Nandi K
Because as an oldest daughter, not much play in my life.

14:13.37
Vance 😈
Yeah.

14:13.75
Nandi K
Probably, I was probably like seven when I stopped playing because my mom had a, i always talk about this.

14:14.24
Vance 😈
Right.

14:21.72
Nandi K
My mom had a surgery, it's carpal tunnel surgery when I was in the second grade. She lost the use of her dominant hand for a while while she recovered. And that's when I started cooking.

14:32.47
Nandi K
and like, that's really kind of the last time I remember like really playing, like, So then I went through this whole like grief period because then I was like so sad that I didn't really play and I didn't have the kind of space for imagination that kids should have specifically.

14:53.56
Vance 😈
Right. Right.

14:54.17
Nandi K
Yeah.

14:54.68
Vance 😈
right

14:56.25
Nandi K
Yeah, and so D&D has changed my life in like such a significant way. First, I got really sad, but then I'm so happy now. Probably the happiest I've ever been in life.

15:06.87
Nandi K
And I play all the time. I've been playing in a game for two years. like My longest game is a two-year game. um And yeah, I've been playing with Black people and I don't know.

15:20.30
Nandi K
There's something about, speaking of like the inside thoughts, it shouldn't be necessarily let out in the world. D&D, great space for killing. you know

15:30.84
Vance 😈
Yeah. Yeah.

15:31.83
Nandi K
i don't necessarily want to kill anyone in real life and go to jail.

15:35.72
Vance 😈
Mm-hmm.

15:36.31
Nandi K
Mostly don't want to go to jail.

15:36.46
Vance 😈
Yep. Mm-hmm.

15:38.71
Nandi K
So when I can kill people in a game... with my magical powers and my very dangerous weapons.

15:42.94
Aaron Rand Freeman
Yeah.

15:45.18
Vance 😈
Yeah. Thunderbolts.

15:46.90
Nandi K
I really enjoy that. And I especially enjoy doing it with negatree attached. It's super fun to be like, yeah. And then Nuck If You Buck starts playing in the background.

15:58.78
Vance 😈
Yeah.

15:59.70
Nandi K
You know, like sometimes we do, yeah.

15:59.96
Vance 😈
Did they do that? Did I do that ah that? That's what I was doing when I was a DM.

16:05.05
Nandi K
Yeah, we have a cleric in our party who whenever they do like a chant before they like fuck somebody up, because they're a cleric fighter, it's always like we knocking and bucking and ready to fight or like some some kind of like compa nigga rap lyric.

16:05.45
Vance 😈
Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. yeah

16:18.94
Vance 😈
yeah yeah ah

16:22.00
Nandi K
It's great. Yeah, it's a very niggerish.

16:24.54
Vance 😈
fuck the mother nigga because I ride with my nigga uh no okay so with that being said ah I actually forgot to write that down play is super important when it comes to imagination um you kind of hit on all the points about play that I think about but like being a child is the last time we're allowed to play before we before we forget right and it is

16:26.42
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. What? who

16:35.86
Nandi K
Oh yeah, yeah.

16:45.82
Nandi K
So sad. And some of us don't even get a full shot at that.

16:50.33
Vance 😈
A lot of us don't, right?

16:50.58
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

16:52.09
Vance 😈
So, like, it is so much, like, I mean, that's probably why you like ah Christmas movies, to be honest. But, like, because Christmas has that very, like, that inner child, like, you know, like, oh, uh-huh.

16:58.91
Nandi K
Mm.

17:02.46
Nandi K
Yeah, that's real. Yeah. And my birthday is around Christmas too, which definitely helps.

17:06.46
Vance 😈
Like, you...

17:07.54
Nandi K
Like it's some of the only times I definitely felt like, oh, I'm gonna get like a gift.

17:12.15
Vance 😈
Right.

17:12.42
Nandi K
It's gonna be about me a little bit.

17:14.46
Vance 😈
Right.

17:14.81
Nandi K
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, damn. Wow.

17:17.22
Vance 😈
And Christmas movies are the place where they're like, oh, like, ah you you forgot about what it means to, like, you know, be connected to that.

17:23.64
Nandi K
ah Oh my God.

17:25.05
Vance 😈
They don't say inner child, but it's Christmas, right?

17:26.20
Nandi K
Stop. Stop.

17:27.73
Vance 😈
I mean, this is, mind you, this is all happening right now. I didn't write this shit, but...

17:31.00
Nandi K
Oh my God. i never even connected those things.

17:34.20
Vance 😈
Right?

17:34.34
Nandi K
Cause I, as you know, I do love corn and Christmas movies. I make sure i watch one every day during the holiday season.

17:37.85
Vance 😈
Yeah.

17:41.11
Vance 😈
It's beautiful, but

17:42.07
Nandi K
yeah Even the bad ones I enjoy.

17:44.76
Vance 😈
But it's that whole like that spirit of like that youthful spirit, that play, that sense of play.

17:44.87
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:48.92
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:50.04
Vance 😈
So like being a child is the only time that we're giving space for that.

17:50.58
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:54.26
Vance 😈
And I think as an adult, you almost have to reclaim that space if you care to. And I think everybody forgets.

18:00.18
Nandi K
yeah

18:00.78
Vance 😈
And I think like, you know, I think one thing men do do, right, is they be playing them games. um Now, maybe they shouldn't sometimes, but some of them, but

18:09.91
Nandi K
But witch games, though, yeah, they're not really playing, a me they're imagining killing, which is something they do in regular life.

18:11.61
Vance 😈
Right. I mean, no, that's true. But I just but i just mean even the... Are imagining... Are imagining being other men and playing basketball. but um

18:23.77
Nandi K
that Which they also do in, I want to say these are not different from real life behavior, so I don't really think men are doing as much imagination as they think they're doing.

18:23.86
Vance 😈
But even that...

18:34.87
Vance 😈
But I think like being intentional about play is ah my point. And like we should be doing it as adults.

18:40.06
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:42.75
Vance 😈
um I do feel like you didn't mention it, but improv ah is also a playground, right?

18:47.54
Nandi K
Oh yeah. Yeah, no.

18:49.65
Vance 😈
Like.

18:49.82
Nandi K
Yeah, no, for sure. I really liked improv and you've done some improv. I feel like, I feel like I'm always my funny.

18:53.88
Vance 😈
Yeah, yeah.

18:56.86
Nandi K
It's so crazy. Like, I feel like when me or you and you are together, I'm my funniest, way funnier than I ever was in any of my improv shows, which is, you know, speaking to the people around or whatever, like, you know,

19:09.88
Vance 😈
but But also, I think that, like, the the black D&D thing you were talking about is in this too, right? Because, like, you you not explaining yourself to me 90% of the time.

19:16.34
Nandi K
yes

19:21.22
Vance 😈
like Like, you know, so, like, we we can just go, whereas I feel like in improv, because it's so dang on white, like, you don't have, like, unless you have a black troupe, it's going to be, they going to be, like, even if you said the funniest shit, they going to be looking like, ah oh what?

19:21.91
Nandi K
Oh, yes, unnecessary.

19:31.86
Nandi K
Yeah.

19:38.87
Vance 😈
I don't, Miss Seeley, like what, what?

19:41.56
Nandi K
oh my God.

19:42.26
Vance 😈
You don't make a ah housewives reference and they like, what?

19:42.52
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, I literally told i told you about how it's like i've we had this sketch that was about knights who were gonna fight each other, but we kept having like to reschedule because it's like scheduling is the BBEG, it's like the punchline of the sketch.

20:04.26
Nandi K
And so like we will every time we would have to have we would be like, and we'll fight right.

20:04.50
Vance 😈
Yeah.

20:11.01
Nandi K
Oh, did you say Saturday? Wait, hold on. I got a Saturday. I got it. And so one of the things I was like, well, I have to drink my wife's bath water. And I was like, you know, I like to drink my wife's bath water at the beginning of every month.

20:26.65
Nandi K
And the improv teacher was like, well, you said you're going to drink your wife's bath water. And I had to like explain to him the idiom about like the euphemism of drinking your wife's bath water.

20:32.70
Vance 😈
they Like Yeah like drinking your Yeah Yeah yeah like like being so Sprung yeah

20:41.29
Nandi K
It's like, I would drink your bath water because I love you so much. Yeah, but he didn't get that because he was a white Canadian and it was a real bummer.

20:51.42
Vance 😈
It's almost nightmarish And then like it feels like A nightmare I mean that like you're stuck And then they be like I don't know what you're talking about And then it's like am I crazy And you know you're not crazy

21:00.98
Nandi K
And this is why like why, think about what white people imagine, right? And what black people imagine. like White people, they imagine light the most horrible monsters, the most dire situations.

21:14.46
Nandi K
Black people be like, What if zombies didn't eat black people and they only ate white people?

21:21.69
Vance 😈
and And ain't that, but ain't, but ain't that also tied to our reality?

21:22.69
Nandi K
It's so different.

21:26.19
Vance 😈
Like we deal with racism when people reject us. So we just tie that to the, cause Key and Peele have a sketch about that.

21:31.61
Nandi K
Yes, no, I was thinking about that sketch, yeah.

21:31.91
Vance 😈
The racist zombies, right? It is literally, but that's like our reality.

21:34.81
Nandi K
Yeah, but it's like, yeah.

21:38.32
Vance 😈
Like this group is so ridiculous that even in death, they would not eat us.

21:39.42
Nandi K
Yeah.

21:43.09
Nandi K
But that's that that's so funny, though.

21:43.38
Vance 😈
Remember,

21:45.33
Nandi K
See how much funnier that is than, like, your neighbor comes and slaughters your a whole family one weekend?

21:51.83
Vance 😈
which is what they're scared of. They're scared of strangers coming to kill.

21:53.38
Nandi K
That's what their whole thing is.

21:54.91
Vance 😈
Oh, what if a what if a foreign what if a foreign person from another place came and killed us with no face and no name?

21:55.50
Nandi K
That's their whole vibe.

22:02.71
Vance 😈
And this is like, hmm. But people be telling on themselves by what they imagine.

22:07.22
Nandi K
Hey. Hey. Well... How do you think imagination has changed your life?

22:15.83
Vance 😈
um I mean, immensely. Like I said, it's like always in the background for me. I i think I feel like I need to be more intentional about playing. um No, but I mean, I play. I play.

22:25.86
Vance 😈
I get my play on.

22:26.48
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:26.86
Vance 😈
um That being said, I think things like talking about it, um improv, like, okay, that's what I took from improv is like play.

22:31.19
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:37.02
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

22:37.50
Vance 😈
Remember to play. Like, if I never did improv again, I'm good with it because I'm like, I have that. And I'm like, remember to play.

22:43.90
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:44.70
Vance 😈
Even Yes And, when you dealing with, like, your friends or, like, you're, like, even, like, a in a podcast setting, like, Yes And, like, are you doing?

22:49.27
Nandi K
Oh, yes.

22:53.54
Nandi K
I yes and Sean more than they would like.

22:53.86
Vance 😈
And...

22:56.96
Nandi K
I'd be like, this is what yes and is to the nth degree.

22:57.36
Vance 😈
And... click click it

23:00.20
Nandi K
Oh, that's what you want to do? Let's do it then.

23:02.46
Vance 😈
And it's fun.

23:03.70
Nandi K
yeah it's so fun.

23:04.63
Vance 😈
How much more fun is it to just go with the thing instead of being like, nope, we'll do something else. Now you have to create something new. It's just like, no, just roll with it.

23:11.49
Nandi K
Ugh.

23:12.07
Vance 😈
And I'm like, I'm not saying every time, but like most of the time, yeah.

23:16.02
Nandi K
You can also do yes, but, you know, it doesn't have to be yes, but it's also great.

23:16.36
Vance 😈
Or like, yeah yes, but. If we're, if we're, um, ah we're being spontaneous and we're out and somebody is like, Hey, let's do this thing that like, you know, I'm like, yeah, let's sure.

23:29.30
Vance 😈
And then you end up having a great time. Like I, that's what I feel like is like being open to play.

23:31.38
Nandi K
Yeah.

23:34.14
Vance 😈
So that, um, when it comes to the liberation of it all, like I said, if we were not able to imagine something else, we would probably be depressed. And some of us are already depressed.

23:42.60
Nandi K
Bruh.

23:43.81
Vance 😈
Right. So it's like,

23:44.60
Nandi K
Yeah, because sometimes we can't see the thing that we need to happen. and We can't only imagine it like, I can't see a world without anti-Black racism, but I can imagine it.

23:52.50
Vance 😈
Right.

23:58.46
Vance 😈
Right. Right.

23:59.29
Nandi K
I can imagine what it would be like.

23:59.38
Vance 😈
And that leads to, and that leads to hope. And then we, we need hope.

24:03.42
Nandi K
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, because hope is an action and that imagination is like one of the actions of hope, I think.

24:06.68
Vance 😈
And I mean,

24:12.06
Nandi K
Yeah, damn. Yeah, that's great.

24:14.60
Vance 😈
dang,

24:15.42
Nandi K
know How do you embody imagination these days?

24:16.36
Aaron Rand Freeman
Yes sir.

24:23.48
Vance 😈
don't know. I mean, don't want to sound like a cop out, but like it is existing. I think that. I've been having this conversation a lot, and I mean, it stemmed from our conversations on this very podcast and our just regular, you know, our group chats and shit.

24:35.00
Nandi K
Sure.

24:38.01
Vance 😈
But like ah the way I conduct myself in relationships and I'm not um talking about of romantic.

24:38.12
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

24:43.29
Vance 😈
I just mean like personal friends, platonic. um

24:46.04
Nandi K
Yeah,

24:47.02
Vance 😈
I treat I'll be treating all my friends like they're my partners.

24:50.17
Nandi K
yeah that's a good way.

24:50.83
Vance 😈
Like, like, I love them. Like, I love y'all. Like, and I'm just like.

24:53.78
Nandi K
Yeah. Remember, I remember that Threads post that was like, is you you were like, is there any other kind of relationship?

24:59.90
Vance 😈
Oh, wait.

25:00.40
Nandi K
I'm like, right, because what?

25:00.36
Vance 😈
Wait, won't what was the question?

25:02.32
Nandi K
Yeah.

25:03.44
Vance 😈
It was like, y'all.

25:04.25
Nandi K
It was like, somebody was like, I don't like relationships. I feel like we're dating, like calm down. And I'm like, what? These are the only kinds I like.

25:13.53
Vance 😈
What do we, like.

25:14.15
Nandi K
wanna get confused sometimes. Be like, do I wanna kiss you or?

25:18.14
Vance 😈
every Every time, like like, I'm like, I think my friend was about to get, like, oh every day, up was I, right?

25:23.90
Nandi K
Yes, and I was about to. and then I said, wait, wait no, I don't wanna ruin our great friendship.

25:28.29
Vance 😈
I was like,

25:30.74
Nandi K
ah No.

25:31.83
Vance 😈
and am I about to get a handjob right now? Like, you really be, like, sitting in the car, like, am about, right?

25:35.43
Nandi K
Oh

25:38.71
Nandi K
my God, are we about to eat pussies as friends?

25:41.54
Vance 😈
Like, is someone's about to slang some throw. Oh, my God.

25:44.98
Nandi K
Oh my God.

25:45.12
Vance 😈
This is crazy. It would be so crazy right now of like everyone was making it. Wouldn't that be crazy?

25:54.52
Nandi K
Wouldn't it be so weird?

25:54.54
Vance 😈
That would be sick. I couldn't imagine it. Yes.

26:00.25
Nandi K
man yeah i'm like how do i embody i mean i feel like i'm kind of embodying my most imagination these days i'm really like deep in my creative back in all kinds of ways um from like podcasting producing podcasts sound design

26:11.54
Vance 😈
Yes.

26:21.34
Nandi K
sewing which I've kind of fell off from styling which I've always done but I'm coming to it back in a real different way and I've been like doing my little press on nails that I've been like customizing i don't have them on yet they're going on today but I've been customizing learning how to do nail art um

26:21.50
Vance 😈
styling styling

26:29.91
Vance 😈
hu

26:37.11
Vance 😈
okay oh yeah same same

26:43.16
Nandi K
Yeah, and then, like, yeah, we just, like, and also I'll be making, like, my own shea butter and shit, you know. We're infusing oils and shit over here. Yeah, we're we're deep in it.

26:53.06
Vance 😈
Oh, be forgetting. Um, and also is this thing as a fucking queer person with like a, with a queer, uh, IDR framework.

26:58.13
Nandi K
Bruh.

27:01.14
Nandi K
A real queer.

27:01.14
Vance 😈
Um, you, you be like, and when he took the, uh,

27:01.78
Nandi K
And I'm saying you bitches ain't queer if you don't have a queer political framework. I'm stripping the queer title from you. You might be... No, use specific language, bitch.

27:14.65
Nandi K
um If you're gender nonconforming... Exactly. Yeah.

27:17.97
Vance 😈
With Aang took his bend in. Aang, chill.

27:20.63
Nandi K
No, it's when T.I.

27:21.15
Vance 😈
Nope.

27:22.23
Nandi K
snatched Nunu Chain at ATL.

27:22.90
Vance 😈
that um'm i I'm taking it right.

27:24.71
Nandi K
That's me. You ain't fucking queer.

27:26.15
Vance 😈
Bitch, give me that chain.

27:27.38
Nandi K
You ain't queer, bitch.

27:28.06
Vance 😈
You a normal faggot.

27:30.98
Nandi K
You're a fucking gender non-conforming dyke.

27:31.79
Vance 😈
oops

27:34.78
Vance 😈
give me that Give me that chain blanket. 90 wait hold on 90 i said i think i said the funniest thing i've ever said last week um fade our friend fade posted something about uh when you when you uh when you like try to hold a white queer person accountable and then they were like they start saying like i'm disabled i'm this i'm this right or white yeah yeah

27:47.44
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

27:55.98
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

27:58.62
Nandi K
Oh yeah. I'm a neurodivergent disabled white ass hang. Yeah.

28:04.57
Vance 😈
Right, right. So that was it. it was a And it never stopped.

28:06.94
Nandi K
Yeah.

28:07.37
Vance 😈
It just was like trailing on.

28:07.77
Nandi K
Yeah. It just goes on forever.

28:09.82
Vance 😈
My comment was simply, I had a music note and I put, blanket, we all got pain. I got one ha-ha.

28:17.53
Nandi K
Like if we all got bad.

28:18.25
Vance 😈
I said, but right, thank you.

28:20.38
Nandi K
Yo, bitches don't love Dreamgirls enough for me.

28:24.28
Vance 😈
That's not funny, blanket, we all got pain.

28:24.55
Nandi K
you know, I literally, literally, dream i have the Dreamgirls soundtrack waking me up in the morning now. And I'm just like, I'm obsessed with Dreamgirls.

28:32.59
Vance 😈
I... I...

28:35.62
Nandi K
It's the best, one of the best musical movies of all time. And like, I feel we all got bad.

28:38.83
Vance 😈
I... love her because she was actually pregnant and she was like my feet hurt i am tired

28:46.58
Nandi K
She was like, I'm not feeling well. I got pain.

28:49.37
Vance 😈
yeah ah y'all are doing a coolup

28:51.16
Nandi K
And they said, bitch, we all got pain.

28:52.89
Vance 😈
right what why would you say that effie we're all hurting

28:57.05
Nandi K
No, you're actually not hurting the same.

28:58.36
Vance 😈
in the middle In the middle of a coup. This is a coup. She's fucking my man. My brother works here and he didn't tell me.

29:05.77
Nandi K
You in this with them, Cece? Shut up.

29:07.67
Vance 😈
Yes. Cece is in on it.

29:08.89
Nandi K
but

29:10.11
Vance 😈
Kill him. Cece, better not ever come to the family reunion, nigga. It's on site.

29:15.26
Nandi K
so

29:15.79
Vance 😈
Like, he knew that that she was sleeping with Of course he knew. He knew. They all knew.

29:20.66
Nandi K
Of course he knew. Niggas ain't shit.

29:22.20
Vance 😈
She knew. She knew.

29:24.28
Nandi K
Wow, I can't believe you didn't get no lie.

29:24.57
Vance 😈
Because she was...

29:26.72
Nandi K
No, I'm so sad you only got one laugh, yeah

29:28.29
Vance 😈
I got one ha ha and it was our friend free free. Thanks. Everything I say is funny. ah

29:33.98
Nandi K
Wow, hopefully he don't hear this. They don't hear this.

29:40.36
Vance 😈
Now, free. I'm like, you're funny, but blank.

29:42.46
Nandi K
You are funny, but everything you say, I mean, most things you say online are pretty, but you post your funniest things.

29:46.68
Vance 😈
They're funny enough blank.

29:49.21
Nandi K
You do post things that you think are funny.

29:51.77
Vance 😈
Right.

29:51.91
Nandi K
Like, yeah.

29:53.53
Vance 😈
But Blanket, we all got pain. Being dismissive is hilarious.

29:55.93
Nandi K
Wow. That's so good.

29:56.69
Vance 😈
They were like, no. They were like, shut up.

29:58.23
Nandi K
of Oh my God. That's so fucking funny.

30:00.54
Vance 😈
i

30:01.97
Nandi K
ah Wow. Well, I think we did it.

30:06.66
Vance 😈
I think we did it. I feel i feel great about this episode.

30:10.46
Nandi K
Yeah, um I think today's episode is sponsored by The Gay Agenda. Most of our episodes, unfortunately, are sponsored by The Gay Agenda.

30:17.00
Vance 😈
Always.

30:20.42
Nandi K
Unfortunately for you fucking straggots.

30:20.39
Vance 😈
I mean...

30:22.98
Vance 😈
Stragots. Cut us a check. That's all I'm saying.

30:26.68
Nandi K
Yeah, yeah.

30:27.10
Vance 😈
Gay agenda. Just throw us that was a little strange.

30:28.76
Nandi K
Yeah, come on, big gay. We need that. And a big thanks to our producer and audio adonis, Aaron Rand Friedman.

30:37.06
Vance 😈
I've been Vance Gowe and you can find me at Instagram and threads at Sir Lanceathawt. And also follow us on the Instagrams.

30:44.60
Nandi K
Oh, yeah.

30:45.57
Vance 😈
I'm sorry, Nadia.

30:46.71
Nandi K
Yeah, no, it's all good.

30:46.73
Vance 😈
But yeah, follow us follow us on the gram at what is it? Rightquickpod.

30:51.93
Nandi K
Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah. And I'm Nandi K.

30:53.35
Vance 😈
That's right.

30:54.45
Nandi K
You can find me on Instagram threads and blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. We'll see y'all next time.