<v Speaker 1>The guards at the most notorious prison in North Vietnam
<v Speaker 1>had a nickname for one particular American. They didn't call
<v Speaker 1>him by his rank because he barely had one. They
<v Speaker 1>called him the incredibly Stupid One. They were certain he
<v Speaker 1>was the dumbest prisoner they had ever laid eyes on,
<v Speaker 1>A poor, illiterate farm boy who couldn't read, couldn't write,
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even be trusted to sign a simple confession. They
<v Speaker 1>just let him wander around the prison yard because they
<v Speaker 1>knew somebody that dumb had to be harmless. They were wrong.
<v Speaker 1>The incredibly Stupid One may have been the most dangerous
<v Speaker 1>American in that prison, and by the time they figured
<v Speaker 1>that out, it was too late. I'm Jerry Broadway from
<v Speaker 1>Hey Dad Productions. This is Anonymous America. Doug Hegdell was
<v Speaker 1>a twenty year old kid from Clark, South Dakota, small
<v Speaker 1>farming town about as far from the ocean as you
<v Speaker 1>can get in America. He had never even seen the
<v Speaker 1>seat when he joined the Navy in nineteen sixty six.
<v Speaker 1>He joined the Navy because he wanted to see the
<v Speaker 1>world and maybe get to Australia. The Navy stationed him
<v Speaker 1>on a guided missile cruiser called the USS Canberra, off
<v Speaker 1>the coast of Vietnam in the Gulf of Tonkin. Doug
<v Speaker 1>was a seaman apprentice, one of the lowest ranks in
<v Speaker 1>the entire Navy. No officers commission, no secret clearances, no
<v Speaker 1>strategic value to anyone. He was just a young enlisted
<v Speaker 1>sailor doing his job. And that low rank, that nobody status,
<v Speaker 1>was about to become the most valuable weapon in a
<v Speaker 1>war Doug never expected to fight. On the sixth of
<v Speaker 1>April nineteen sixty seven, the Canberra was firing her big
<v Speaker 1>guns at targets on shore, and Doug went up on
<v Speaker 1>deck to watch. And then, and to this day, no
<v Speaker 1>one is entirely sure how, the blast from one of
<v Speaker 1>the ship's five inch gun mounts blew Doug clean off
<v Speaker 1>the deck and into the black water of the South
<v Speaker 1>China Sea, and nobody saw it happen. The Canberra steamed on,
<v Speaker 1>and when the crew took mustard the next morning and
<v Speaker 1>hegdel wasn't there. They searched the vessel not once but twice,
<v Speaker 1>and then listed him as lost at sea, presumed drowned.
<v Speaker 1>As far as the United States Navy was concerned, Seeman
<v Speaker 1>apprentice Douglas Hegdel was dead, but he wasn't. Doug treaded
<v Speaker 1>water in the open ocean for something like twelve hours
<v Speaker 1>until a North Vietnamese fishing boat found him and pulled
<v Speaker 1>him aboard, And just like that, that farm kid from
<v Speaker 1>South Dakota became a prisoner of war. He was handed
<v Speaker 1>over to the Vietnam army, who beat him with their
<v Speaker 1>rifles and hauled him off to a prison the Americans
<v Speaker 1>had nicknamed the Hanaway Hilton. Now, his captors took one
<v Speaker 1>look at this young sailor and assumed he must be
<v Speaker 1>a commando, a spy, an agent dropped in on some
<v Speaker 1>sort of secret mission. Why else would an American turn
<v Speaker 1>up alone in the ocean, And so they started to
<v Speaker 1>interrogate him. And this is where Doug Hegdel did something brilliant.
<v Speaker 1>He decided that the most powerful thing he could possibly
<v Speaker 1>be was underestimated. So he played dumb, spectacularly convincingly dumb.
<v Speaker 1>He acted like a simple, illiterate country boy who could
<v Speaker 1>barely understand what was happening. He asked innocent, ignorant questions,
<v Speaker 1>and when they demanded that he write out a confession,
<v Speaker 1>he told them very sincerely that he couldn't he couldn't read,
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't write, he had never learned how Now you
<v Speaker 1>have to remember many of his captors had grown up
<v Speaker 1>in a poor, rural country, and they knew plenty of
<v Speaker 1>farmers who couldn't read a word, so they believed him.
<v Speaker 1>They actually assigned someone to teach the poor literate American
<v Speaker 1>his letters, and Doug made sure that project failed. Week
<v Speaker 1>after week. He was hopeless, he was unteachable. Finally, his
<v Speaker 1>frustrated teacher just gave up and declared him a lost cause.
<v Speaker 1>And the guards really convinced gave him that nickname, the
<v Speaker 1>incredibly stupid One. And here's the thing that they had
<v Speaker 1>no way of knowing. Doung Hegdell was anything but stupid.
<v Speaker 1>Doug Hegdell had a remarkable memory, and now that everyone
<v Speaker 1>had decided he was a complete idiot, they stopped watching him.
<v Speaker 1>They gave him the run of the place. They let
<v Speaker 1>him sweep the prison yard and wander around between the
<v Speaker 1>cell blocks because he was the only American they figured
<v Speaker 1>was just too stupid to cause any trouble. Doug caused
<v Speaker 1>an enormous amount of trouble for starters. He became a saboteur.
<v Speaker 1>As he swept the yard, he would wait for a
<v Speaker 1>guard to nod off, and then he would drop a
<v Speaker 1>small amount of dirt into the fuel tanks of the
<v Speaker 1>North Vietnamese trucks parked in the compound, just a little
<v Speaker 1>at a time so no one would notice. Five of
<v Speaker 1>those trucks eventually broke down so badly they had to
<v Speaker 1>be towed out of the prison. A senior officer and
<v Speaker 1>fellow prisoner, Navy pilot Dick Stratton, later marveled at it.
<v Speaker 1>Here was a high school kid who fell off a ship,
<v Speaker 1>and he had five in many trucks to his credit,
<v Speaker 1>while Stratton, a decorated pilot with thousands of flight hours
<v Speaker 1>and dozens of combat missions, had destroyed exactly zero. Who,
<v Speaker 1>Stratton asked, was the better sailor. The North Vietnamese also
<v Speaker 1>tried to use their harmless idiot for propaganda. They would
<v Speaker 1>have him read statements criticizing the United States, but Doug
<v Speaker 1>would deliver them so badly, so flat, so mangled, so
<v Speaker 1>riddled with mistakes, that the recordings were just useless. He
<v Speaker 1>said later that ruining their propaganda became a personal war
<v Speaker 1>for him. He was fighting them with incompetence on purpose,
<v Speaker 1>and he was winning. But all of that was just
<v Speaker 1>the warm up, because Doug Heggel was about to do
<v Speaker 1>the single most important thing any prisoner in that camp
<v Speaker 1>would ever do. The men in the Hanoi Hilton had
<v Speaker 1>a desperate problem back home. The North Vietnamese refused to
<v Speaker 1>release accurate list of who they were holding, so hundreds
<v Speaker 1>of American servicemen were simply listed as missing in action,
<v Speaker 1>and their families had no idea whether they were alive
<v Speaker 1>or did ed Sitting in a jail celle in Hanoi
<v Speaker 1>or lying at the bottom of a jungle somewhere. The
<v Speaker 1>prisoners needed the world to know their names. They needed
<v Speaker 1>proof of life. So one of Doug's salemates, an Air
<v Speaker 1>Force officer named Joe Kreka, took on a project with
<v Speaker 1>the one man the guards never watched. He began feeding
<v Speaker 1>Doug the names of fellow prisoners, and to lock them
<v Speaker 1>into his memory, they set the list to a tune,
<v Speaker 1>a simple silly children's song. Old McDonald had a farm,
<v Speaker 1>name after name after name sung quietly to that nursery rhyme.
<v Speaker 1>And Doug didn't just memorize names. He memorized ranks, capture dates,
<v Speaker 1>how each band had been shot down or taken, the
<v Speaker 1>names of their wives and children, the names of their dogs,
<v Speaker 1>even social security numbers. And by the time he was done,
<v Speaker 1>the incredibly stupid one had committed to memory the identities
<v Speaker 1>of two hundred and fifty six American POWs. And then
<v Speaker 1>came the test of his life. The North Vietnamese decid
<v Speaker 1>to release a handful of prisoners early as a propaganda gesture,
<v Speaker 1>look how humane we are, and they picked, among others,
<v Speaker 1>their favorite harmless idiot. But the American prisoners lived by
<v Speaker 1>an ironclad code. Nobody goes home early, You come home
<v Speaker 1>in the order you were captured, and no one accepts
<v Speaker 1>special release ahead of the others, because early release was
<v Speaker 1>exactly the kind of thing the enemy would use to
<v Speaker 1>divide them and break them. To take that deal was
<v Speaker 1>to be branded a collaborator, and Doug Hegdel did not
<v Speaker 1>want to go. He did not want to be seen
<v Speaker 1>as one of the men who cut a deal and
<v Speaker 1>left his brothers behind. So his senior officer, Dick Stratton,
<v Speaker 1>gave him a direct order, take the release, get out.
<v Speaker 1>Because inside that so called stupid sailor's head were two
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty six names that the outside world needed
<v Speaker 1>far more than the Hanoi Hilton needed one more body
<v Speaker 1>in a cell. Going home for Doug was not a reward,
<v Speaker 1>It was an assignment. On August fifth, nineteen sixty nine,
<v Speaker 1>Douglas Hegdel walked out of North Vietnam, and when he
<v Speaker 1>got home, he opened his mouth and out came the names,
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty six of them, with the details
<v Speaker 1>to back up every single one. For dozens of American
<v Speaker 1>families who had been told only that their son or
<v Speaker 1>their husband was missing, it was the first hard proof
<v Speaker 1>in years that their man was still alive. And the
<v Speaker 1>Navy that had once listed Doug Hegdel as dead now
<v Speaker 1>had in Doug a witness who could account for hundreds
<v Speaker 1>of the living. And it didn't stop there. In nineteen seventy,
<v Speaker 1>businessman Ross Perot flew Hegdel to the Paris Peace Talks,
<v Speaker 1>where the incredibly stupid one stood up and told the
<v Speaker 1>world in specific detail about the torture and the mistreatment
<v Speaker 1>inside the Hanoi Hilton. His testimony put a spotlight on
<v Speaker 1>that camp, and the men he had left behind reported
<v Speaker 1>that afterward, conditions actually improved. Doug went on to spend
<v Speaker 1>years teaching other American service members how to survive captivity,
<v Speaker 1>passing on hard won lessons at the Navy Survival School,
<v Speaker 1>and nearly three decades after he came home, at a
<v Speaker 1>gathering of veterans, Doug stood up and did it one
<v Speaker 1>more time. He recited the names, all two hundred and
<v Speaker 1>fifty six of them, to that same old nursery tune,
<v Speaker 1>every name, every rank. He still remembered them all. Dick Stratton,
<v Speaker 1>the decorated pilot with all the medals and none of
<v Speaker 1>the trucks, called Doug Hegdel his personal hero. He was
<v Speaker 1>the perfect model of the resourceful, courageous American sailor. The
<v Speaker 1>guards thought he was the stupidest man in the prison.
<v Speaker 1>He may have been the smartest man in all of Vietnam.
<v Speaker 1>And he beat them with nothing more than a nursery
<v Speaker 1>rhyme and a steel trap memory that gave hundreds of
<v Speaker 1>families back their sons. That's Douglas Hegdel, and that's anonymous America.
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