00:02.84
Nandi K
Welcome back to Right Quick.

00:05.13
Vance 😈
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite Queer, unfriendly Black hotties.

00:10.34
Nandi K
We're unfriendly today because Law Roach is a nasty cunt. I'm Nandi Kay.

00:16.95
Vance 😈
And I'm Vance Gowe. um What an opener.

00:21.11
Nandi K
Indeed.

00:21.14
Vance 😈
I fully agree.

00:23.10
Nandi K
Yeah.

00:23.62
Nandi K
I don't know if you watched the Outlaws interview with T.S. Madison and Kennedy Davenport. But it was a two-part interview.

00:31.48
Vance 😈
When? When did it drop?

00:33.95
Nandi K
it dropped like, it dropped during her bracket. so

00:38.68
Vance 😈
Oh, recently.

00:39.67
Nandi K
Yeah, the second episode dropped before the third episode aired. The one with Law Roach.

00:46.78
Vance 😈
Okay I need to watch.

00:48.63
Nandi K
You should watch it. She basically talks about how she kind of read Law down for some nasty things he was saying. And talks crazy and also read him down in Untucked. And yeah

01:08.79
Vance 😈
Do they show it?

01:09.81
Nandi K
No! Did you watch it? Did you watch the show?

01:12.60
Vance 😈
Yeah.

01:13.41
Nandi K
They didn't show it and they did not show Law coming backstage on Untucked.

01:14.52
Vance 😈
No, no, no, but like on Untucked?

01:18.30
Nandi K
No.

01:18.68
Vance 😈
Yeah. Okay, that's what I'm asking. Yeah.

01:20.47
Nandi K
Yeah.

01:21.24
Vance 😈
and No, so Law did make a comment. So...

01:25.21
Nandi K
About Hershey.

01:26.25
Nandi K
Yeah.

01:27.06
Vance 😈
Right, but she says something like, oh, because I've been known to be a cunt or something like that. Like, I've been known to be a nasty cunt. Something like that.

01:33.66
Nandi K
Yeah.

01:33.66
Vance 😈
So is that because ah Kennedy said something?

01:37.24
Nandi K
Yeah, I think so.

01:38.20
Vance 😈
Okay.

01:38.66
Nandi K
I think that's, yeah.

01:38.97
Vance 😈
It felt loaded.

01:41.34
Nandi K
Yeah, so when she talked about it with T.S. Madison, which apparently they've been knowing each other for like 30 years, something, almost since the beginning of Kennedy's, like, where I guess Kennedy was in the military at some point and also doing drag and her first place she was stationed was Miami.

01:53.69
Vance 😈
Career.

02:01.26
Nandi K
Yeah. Excuse me.

02:02.46
Vance 😈
No clue. None of this.

02:03.77
Nandi K
Yeah, me neither. and that's how she met ah Madison at the time there. And Madison was like, I had already heard about you. Like people had already was already talking about you then. Which was like so wild anyway.

02:17.41
Vance 😈
Yeah.

02:20.66
Nandi K
Yeah. They've been knowing each other for a really long time. It was a great interview, but basically Kennedy was saying that law was being nasty to the younger girls. It wasn't even really about her.

It was about like when you're in a place of like leadership, you should, even if you don't like something, you should speak to people in a certain way. You shouldn't be trying to dash people's dreams and be like, I hate, hate, hate your makeup, you know?

02:50.62
Vance 😈
Right. No, I mean, I fully agree because like, I mean, I guess we will talk about it with today's episode. But I think that like your words matter a lot, always like everybody's words matter.
But when you are in a judge position or like and then Law ain't young, like you would think Law’s like.

03:02.14
Nandi K
No.

03:06.52
Nandi K
not only

03:07.93
Vance 😈
30 the way that she'd be acting. And that's... It gives evil gay energy.

03:12.60
Nandi K
Yeah.

03:12.89
Vance 😈
and And the thing about, like, evil gays, like, they're miserable. And I don't know if... I don't know if Law identifies as miserable, but she feels like it. Like, it's just like...

03:21.03
Nandi K
Yeah, she definitely going on my evil CEhomos.

03:21.53
Vance 😈
Because...

03:24.60
Vance 😈
Because what is that?

03:24.79
Nandi K
The evil CE homo episode. Perfect person.

03:26.81
Vance 😈
Right. What is...

03:28.86
Nandi K
Yeah.

03:29.18
Vance 😈
Because what...

03:30.34
Nandi K
She's making TV and like, okay.

03:34.27
Vance 😈
It also feels old, right?

03:34.87
Nandi K
Sure.

03:36.78
Vance 😈
Like, does it not feel like 2001, American Idol, a Top Model, I... name you name it

03:43.51
Nandi K
But is this audience not looking for that?

03:48.15
Vance 😈
of that of that ilk of that of that

03:50.62
Nandi K
Is this audience not looking for that? Like, this audience wants that. They get mad when people they think went too soft on, like when Law Roach isn't there and people who are not being nasty, you know, because Michelle used to play that, but now she's really humble since she don't have her titties no more.

04:05.66
Vance 😈
and it's all nice.

04:10.30
Vance 😈
She used to be evil.

04:13.24
Nandi K
She got a lot more hum humble.

04:14.84
Vance 😈
The judges on Drag Race used to talk to the girls crazy.

04:55.58
Nandi K
Yeah, they were doing that. Yes.

04:58.64
Vance 😈
And then they they really soften.

05:01.20
Vance 😈
Like if you go back and watch the old episodes, it feels like a different show almost.
Because they used to be talking like pimps, like like you bitches. And I mean, I know they still call them bitches, but like it's more complimentary.

05:12.02
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, Rue has definitely softened up a lot. She was definitely a caricature of Tyra Banks on Top Model at the beginning of the show.

05:21.46
Vance 😈
And I'm sure that was intentional, but like, yeah, Rue, Rue felt like, you know, your, your mama back then.

05:23.51
Nandi K
Yeah.

05:26.98
Vance 😈
And then you see your mama with the grandkids and you like, who is this? Like,

05:30.26
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. Wow, that's exactly what it's like.

05:34.81
Vance 😈
it's like, y'all not scared of her? What is like, why aren't y'all scared of her? Like that is a demon that's holding you and the kids don't know nothing.

05:40.25
Nandi K
Child.

05:41.21
Vance 😈
They just be granny. So nice. No, she's not.

05:44.44
Nandi K
No, granny is fracking, honey.

05:47.48
Vance 😈
Uh, uh,

05:50.49
Nandi K
Anyway, if you haven't caught it by now, we are talking about RuPaul's Drag Race, our sports.

05:50.84
Vance 😈
Not granny. Granny's fracking.

06:00.79
Vance 😈
Yes, our sports.

06:00.89
Nandi K
This is our sports.

06:02.03
Vance 😈
Sorry.

06:02.13
Nandi K
This is like our most athletic thing we like.

06:05.67
Vance 😈
Granny's fracking got me. Sorry. that That was great. ah Yeah, so we talk about Drag Race in general, right?

06:13.75
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:13.80
Vance 😈
We're just talking about our thoughts about it.

06:14.78
Nandi K
Yeah.

06:15.84
Vance 😈
Yeah.

06:15.90
Nandi K
yeah

06:17.21
Vance 😈
I think just to get us going, ah what is your origin story with her? Like, when did you get into it? Were you in it from the beginning? Did some gay person be like, yo, watch this? What happened?

06:28.28
Nandi K
So I wasn't watching TV from like 2008 to like 2016. I didn't have a TV. And this was before streaming was TV, right?

06:41.94
Vance 😈
Right. Used to be on demand.

06:43.38
Nandi K
So yeah, so I was watching like Lost on Netflix, but I stopped watching TV for a while. Then when I moved to LA in 2016, I was like, so the person I was dating was like watching TV. They had a TV. I was like, oh my God, I haven't had a TV in forever, and they were watching like Love and Hip Hop with Cardi B.

07:12.63
Vance 😈
Yeah.

07:12.76
Nandi K
So I immediately fell in love with Cardi B.

07:12.93
Vance 😈
Oh,

07:15.24
Nandi K
And then I started watching Drag Race. And I think... The first season I remember watching, I think is Bob's season with Chi Chi Devane.

07:26.00
Vance 😈
What was that? Eight?

07:28.95
Vance 😈
ah Seven, eight?

07:29.14
Nandi K
That's eight.

07:30.14
Vance 😈
Eight, okay.

07:30.90
Nandi K
Season eight. Yeah, that's the first one I remember watching. And then I fell off for a while because I didn't have TV again. and then I came back to L.A. and I had TV again.

07:44.67
Vance 😈
huh

07:46.39
Nandi K
And I started binging and I've been on it since then. So like since 2019, I haven't missed any seasons.

07:53.50
Vance 😈
Okay, nice. um For me, it was, it had to be season 14 because I think the first winner I saw was Willow Pill.

08:02.06
Nandi K
Yikes.

08:02.90
Vance 😈
I know.

08:02.97
Nandi K
Not a great season to start off on.

08:04.02
Vance 😈
No, but you know, it was it was kind of funny.

08:05.88
Nandi K
I like Willow Pill, though.

08:07.77
Vance 😈
Well, I was the best thing in that season, but that season was trash. But, um, one of my, it was somebody I was like dating, like hanging out with.

08:10.93
Nandi K
Yikes. Yeah, not a good season.

08:15.87
Vance 😈
Um, they, we were hanging out and we watched the episode and I remember cause didn't that season have a um straight man or something?

08:24.28
Nandi K
Oh, Maddie Morphasis.

08:25.78
Vance 😈
Yes.

08:26.42
Nandi K
Oh my God, was that and that?

08:26.54
Vance 😈
Okay. Okay.

08:28.14
Nandi K
Yeah, that was a terrible season. Oh my God.

08:29.82
Vance 😈
Yeah, that season was not... But I didn't know. was my first season, right? So um I think actually the episode that I saw was like...

08:33.30
Nandi K
Yeah, sure.

08:37.66
Vance 😈
It might have been... It was All Stars where ah one of the girls made a dress on the spot. The quick dress. So we watched that episode. And then the person I was dating said some raggedy shit about why they didn't think trans girls should be on the show and I just remember... I was like...

08:55.86
Nandi K
Very RuPaul opinion of the time as well.

08:57.43
Vance 😈
Right. Well, I didn't know. I didn't know enough about the show to be like, have a strong opinion other than that didn't sound right. I said, don't really make sense to me, but like you in the Lord, you have it. That don't sound right to me.

09:09.91
Nandi K
yeah

09:10.57
Vance 😈
Then I went home and watched and then I started watching Willow Pill season and then I've been in ever since. And I went back and watched a bunch of the old ones.

09:16.44
Nandi K
Yeah.

09:18.06
Vance 😈
So in the middle, I came late.

09:18.90
Nandi K
Yeah, same. Yeah, I was kind of late to season eight. Season eight is pretty late, but I came in through the the single digits and I loved Bob.

09:30.78
Vance 😈
Yes, of course.

09:32.15
Nandi K
And I was like, oh, Bob lives in New York. I also like that because I was also living in New York. um Oh, damn. People, I guess, have said that Drag Race has gotten stale or… wow that's so wild I don't necessarily feel like Drag Race is stale I think they're doing too many seasons in a year I think we only need two seasons of American Drag Race in a year not three

09:56.54
Vance 😈
Yeah, I...

10:03.74
Vance 😈
I agree. Yeah, I think that they're spread too thin, maybe, or like it's, ah um what is it?

10:07.38
Nandi K
yeah it's too many girls oversaturated

10:09.24
Vance 😈
Over proliferated. Yes, oversaturated for sure.

10:12.12
Nandi K
yeah

10:13.18
Vance 😈
However, I think, ah so the the ultimate question in that, so like, yeah, it's gotten stale. Some people say it's overly self-referential. Like, it's been going so long that like all they do is reference themselves.

10:26.24
Nandi K
That's great.

10:26.21
Vance 😈
And I'm like, I'm like, well, that's because they can. Yeah.

10:29.66
Nandi K
Yeah, everybody can't do that. There's a franchise of Housewives that's like that. Real House of Salt Lake City is literally a self-referential housewives is high camp it's some of the most incredible tv unfortunately it is white women so can't get too deep into it but whenever I'm with my white friends I always watch and i'd be like oh my god this is amazing yes I love when people when it references itself because it's been around so long

10:45.10
Vance 😈
Yeah. Yeah.

10:49.50
Vance 😈
yeah

11:02.14
Vance 😈
Right, because I mean, again, you're doing because you can. Because if a nigga was self-referencing two seasons, we'd be like, all right, simmer down. um

11:09.72
Nandi K
right

11:10.68
Vance 😈
So I guess that's the question. Why do you come back, or what do you even like about Drag Race? Why are you still it?

11:18.30
Nandi K
yeah I mean I'm always coming back for new queens there's so many drag queens in the world um because I watch some of the international seasons too but yeah there's so many drag queens that do so many things. I love coming back for that I love RuPaul I hate to em admit it, I love her. I love her music. Like I love I'm a RuPaul music stan as well.

11:47.77
Vance 😈
Do you listen Do you listen to RuPaul's music?

11:50.52
Nandi K
Constantly.

11:51.70
Vance 😈
i I will say, obviously, I do not, but I do think when I'm listening to the...

11:52.86
Nandi K
Constantly.

11:58.07
Vance 😈
Because you know, that the it's also a RuPaul commercial.

12:00.12
Nandi K
Yeah. Yes.

12:02.07
Vance 😈
The whole thing.

12:02.71
Nandi K
Well, also, RuPaul music is free on RuPaul's Drag Race.

12:05.98
Vance 😈
right, right.

12:06.15
Nandi K
You don't have to pay for that. You don't have to pay $25,000, which is how much it costs to have a like mainstream song on your show.

12:07.80
Vance 😈
Right

12:14.83
Vance 😈
Right. And then they just need one for that damn lip sync. But, um, but yeah, no, when I listen to the songs, I'm like, oh, this kind of slap a little bit.

12:18.37
Nandi K
Yep.

12:23.27
Vance 😈
Um, even, uh,

12:23.90
Nandi K
They all go hard. And you know I live for her 90-second performances that she gives us once per season.

12:30.84
Vance 😈
Llook, mama going give you a shimmy.

12:31.19
Nandi K
When she does her little uh, uh, uh, if she has a prop, baby, let mother have a prop.

12:32.96
Vance 😈
Yup. She's going to give you a little shimmy.

12:37.59
Vance 😈
The The men

12:40.05
Nandi K
I'm, I'm all in on like RuPaul, the like character.

12:45.08
Vance 😈
Yeah.

12:45.27
Nandi K
I don't mean like RuPaul, the person I don't know her, but RuPaul, the drag queen, everything.

12:52.82
Vance 😈
That, that, that, what is it? The, uh, it's about to be a roast. What's the, that, that's all that's just slap.

12:58.26
Nandi K
The rapping roast. Yeah.

13:01.94
Nandi K
Oh, the rapping roast is great.

13:01.91
Vance 😈
Like the chorus.

13:03.50
Nandi K
They did that for the first time last time they did this bracket system, which Georgia's got to do the rap and roast. She had won her rap and roast.

13:11.10
Vance 😈
Oh, I do remember. Was it the same song?

13:12.78
Nandi K
Yeah. No.

13:15.00
Vance 😈
Oh, okay. No, because the song was like, I'm about to roast it.

13:15.67
Nandi K
No. there This song was way better.

13:18.62
Vance 😈
This song was fire.

13:19.61
Nandi K
And I think all the verses were better too.

13:19.66
Vance 😈
Like, I was amazing. Yes.

13:23.42
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:23.86
Vance 😈
So, so yeah.

13:24.18
Nandi K
Yeah. I'm gonna roast these hoes.

13:27.13
Vance 😈
Yeah, there it is.

13:27.86
Nandi K
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna roast these hoes.

13:30.70
Nandi K
I was like, woo!

13:30.90
Vance 😈
That's it. It was good. So, so, uh, yeah.

13:34.47
Nandi K
ate.

13:36.12
Vance 😈
So with that being said, yeah, so I, I'm similar to you. I think, uh, seeing the girls, right.

13:39.00
Nandi K
Yeah.

13:40.68
Vance 😈
so I'm like just the platform that they're putting these, uh, these artists. Cause that's what they are.

13:45.53
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

13:46.48
Vance 😈
putting these queer artists on, um, all these bitches, the, the worst, the worst drag Queens on drag race is more talented than most people, you know, like, you know, so it's just like,

13:56.09
Nandi K
Right.

13:58.04
Vance 😈
That is dope to see. I love just watching like talented people do what they do.

14:02.62
Nandi K
Yep. Yeah.

14:03.51
Vance 😈
Um, also like watching people be challenged because everybody's not good at everything.

14:06.79
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

14:07.75
Vance 😈
So like just watching people overcome that and they still be doing again, they they're being stretched.

14:08.09
Nandi K
Yes. Mm-hmm.

14:13.63
Vance 😈
Like there's not many places in in life where like you're stretched that much in that short of amount of a time. Like it's like bootcamp, right?

14:20.34
Nandi K
And especially as an adult too. As an adult, there's not a lot of spaces for that.

14:23.10
Vance 😈
Yeah.

14:25.94
Nandi K
I absolutely agree. um

14:28.28
Vance 😈
Feedback

14:29.43
Nandi K
Yeah, exactly. Direct feedback saying like, we like this, we don't like this. Here's what you could have done. They give you actionable feedback.

Vance
Right like right like right listen laws of evil hoe right but like I do value I think like getting live feedback is still and I think a lot of people don't do that like even in like even at work people will have you thinking your shit don't stink because they scared the conflict they scared of conflict or scared to be like hey

14:43.77
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right.

14:57.14
Nandi K
I'd be out here. I'd be like, conflict is an opportunity for us to learn about each other, to invite deeper intimacy, even in a workspace.

14:58.30
Vance 😈
we know.

15:09.49
Nandi K
Like, Once you have a hard conversation, you can navigate a hard conversation. That's the part of community people are fucking up anyway.

Vance
That's fair.

Nandi K
Like, is that fucking, like, the rupture and repair cycle or the, like, conflict. Every kind of conflict isn't bad, inherently bad.

15:25.58
Vance 😈
It's not inherently bad.

15:25.85
Nandi K
Like...

15:26.54
Vance 😈
I think it's how you work through it can be good or bad or are not optimal, if you will.

15:28.75
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Exactly. Mm-hmm.

15:31.94
Vance 😈
um No, I fully agree.

15:32.87
Nandi K
Yes.

15:33.62
Vance 😈
And I think like the intimacy you feel after you like read a bitch again.

15:36.95
Nandi K
Yes.

15:38.58
Vance 😈
But um no, but after that, after that moment, like I do think that everybody's like actually doing the thing like you do come out better.

15:40.86
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:46.26
Vance 😈
Like, oh, OK.

15:46.62
Nandi K
Yeah.

15:47.38
Vance 😈
And then, you know, you can do it again.

15:47.77
Nandi K
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And one thing I also like about Drag Race is like, I'm not much of a competition person myself. I don't love to compete. So I wouldn't want to do like a drag race type thing. It really stresses me out. But it's really fun to watch people compete and find out they're good at stuff.

16:10.52
Vance 😈
Right.

16:10.61
Nandi K
That's what I was thinking about. The people who think they're not good at something...

16:14.46
Vance 😈
Right.

16:15.54
Nandi K
And they discover on the show they're good at it. Like Trinity finding out she was funny.

16:19.65
Vance 😈
Trinity, yes.

16:20.62
Nandi K
Or Kennedy Davenport as well finding out how funny she is.

16:20.89
Vance 😈
Comedy.

16:24.44
Vance 😈
Right. Right.

16:25.24
Nandi K
um So good. Like that Cha-Cha Hill sketch with Kennedy and Katya. Oh my fucking god Please.

16:31.48
Vance 😈
Uh-huh.

16:35.86
Vance 😈
It was the... What were you saying about comedy? No, so not not only the comedy, I think it's also... We talked about this the storytelling, the editing, right? Because I think like ultimately it's about stories, even though it's quote-unquote reality.

16:44.20
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yes.

16:48.34
Vance 😈
But like having a character find out that they're funny and then become a comedy queen, and then you come back and you're funnier...

16:48.70
Nandi K
Yeah.

16:55.90
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

16:56.28
Vance 😈
because you leaned into it.

16:57.70
Nandi K
Yep.

16:57.72
Vance 😈
And it's just like, that is a story. Or like, you know, when you watch my favorite thing about reality, we talked about this already on the reality one, but like at the beginning where like Nandi is like, I'm not wanna, I have not won a single challenge.

17:04.66
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

17:12.26
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

17:12.82
Vance 😈
And then the story is that. And then by the end of the episode, you either win the challenge or you go home.

17:15.66
Nandi K
Yep.

17:18.20
Nandi K
Or going home.

17:21.85
Vance 😈
and And I love that we know that.

17:22.66
Nandi K
Facts.

17:23.93
Vance 😈
Like, that's, that's the, it's a shorthand.

17:24.31
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:25.97
Vance 😈
We all know this. And then when it happens, it's still rewarding because it's like, that's what's supposed to happen.

17:27.45
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:31.29
Nandi K
Listen.

17:31.51
Vance 😈
Now, if you were safe, then it would be like, that's not a good story.

17:35.51
Nandi K
Right.

17:36.57
Vance 😈
but anyway, so yeah, that then first and foremost, my favorite thing about it is that it just centers joy.

17:36.73
Nandi K
Right.

17:42.94
Nandi K
Yes, it's a genuinely happy show. like is not to It's not really depressing.

17:46.54
Vance 😈
It's,

17:48.38
Nandi K
It doesn't get too dark. It's really light.

17:50.25
Vance 😈
Mm hmm.

17:50.70
Nandi K
Yeah.

17:51.54
Vance 😈
Even when the girls fight, I think that um it's humanizing because I think a lot of people like obviously I know most of the audience is queer people, but I feel like if anybody that was not from the community watched the show, it's very humanizing to see like people be people.
Like, not just a big, scary drag queen with big hair and six feet and can crush you with her mind.

18:10.36
Nandi K
Yep.

18:12.67
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

18:15.32
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:15.56
Vance 😈
ah You know, like, these people are fighting while they're getting dressed. And then, you know, they always, an episode later, no matter how raggedy they were being or what they said an episode later, they come together and they, I'm sorry, bitch.

18:18.87
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:25.88
Nandi K
They apologize.

18:28.05
Vance 😈
Yeah, it's just like, that...

18:28.57
Nandi K
Yeah.

18:31.00
Vance 😈
That is also great. So...

18:32.62
Nandi K
It's important. important.

18:34.46
Vance 😈
feel how you want about like i think obviously like the show has had its issues like with the uh the transphobia and like the colorism and shit um I do feel like there is always a level of assessing and coming back and shifting. I'm not saying they're perfect right um but they have made adjustments and i appreciate that um because i think at the end of the day Mama Ru loves money more than she's aligned More than she's aligned with like the bullshit.

18:41.66
Nandi K
yeah

18:59.83
Nandi K
Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, with hate. Yeah.

19:05.18
Vance 😈
Yeah.

19:05.62
Nandi K
And she's like, I can't be out here publicly hating trans people when I'm supposed to be spreading queer joy. Like, that's bad for my brand. She can at least recognize that.

19:13.02
Vance 😈
Right. Right. And it is sister.

19:15.38
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah, it is. ah Well, who are some of your favorite queens?

19:21.53
Vance 😈
Ah, okay. So I, because I came in late, I feel like I skewed to some of the people I saw, you know, but, um, Bob gotta be, Bob gotta be like my number one.

19:28.60
Nandi K
No. I mean... It's not even close to me.

19:32.92
Vance 😈
ah yeah. Yeah. And I'm saying Bob is instead of Bob the drag queen. Like I know this bitch, but that's how Bob makes you feel. So like, I'm like, yeah, Bob, that's my cousin.

19:42.87
Nandi K
Bob feels like kin to me also, because we're both from the South, too.

19:42.90
Vance 😈
at Absolutely.

19:48.91
Nandi K
Both moved to New York, so we have like kind of similar stories in that way. So I do feel like Bob is my cousin. and I consume so much of their content ah between Bob and Monet.

20:01.77
Vance 😈
Monet. yeah I'm like, Monet is on the list.

20:05.21
Nandi K
ah yeah I also love Monet I love Trixie Mattel has really grown on me over the years even though I was like whatever about her i started watching some of her content and she's really funny she's a very fun drag queen

20:06.20
Vance 😈
a little. um

20:12.12
Vance 😈
Okay.

20:20.99
Vance 😈
Does Trixie have the show where they watch, they watch like a TV show on YouTube?

20:24.38
Nandi K
yeah yeah with Katia yeah with Katia yeah I love them yeah

20:25.11
Vance 😈
Oh, that bitch funny. That. they were talking about the, uh, the Hunting Wives Club and they were like, Oh yeah, they, they were trying to kill each other. She was like, honey, that's just lesbians. I was dead.

20:40.12
Nandi K
Yeah, I also love the Davenports. Basically, any Davenport, you put a Davenport in front of me, I am partial to A’keria C and Kennedy Davenport, those two.

20:52.47
Vance 😈
Kennedy. Awesome.

20:55.09
Nandi K
But I love, they're always such kind people who are willing to help their mothers.And I like that. Also, fucking ah Vivacious, who was on this season, oh, mother has arrived.

21:06.78
Vance 😈
Oh, OG. Yes, OG.

21:10.20
Nandi K
Like, vivacious B.B. Zahara... B.B. Zahara Janae, who is from season one, the winner of season one, RuPaul's Drag Race.

21:17.78
Vance 😈
Yes, the um they're African, right?

21:20.17
Nandi K
Yeah. Camaroon!

21:23.97
Vance 😈
Cornbread.

21:25.25
Nandi K
Cornbread, yes.

21:26.61
Vance 😈
Um.

21:26.90
Nandi K
Famously injured herself.

21:29.59
Vance 😈
Yes, hurt her ankle.

21:29.70
Nandi K
ah

21:30.99
Vance 😈
Oh, the same nigga I was talking to was saying how the big girls be hurting themselves, and that's why it's not good to be big. was like, we got to cut this off.

21:38.33
Nandi K
Yikes! Jesus fucking Christ. These people are sick.

21:44.47
Vance 😈
oh

21:47.12
Vance 😈
What's my girl, Sasha Colby?

21:49.32
Nandi K
Ugh.

21:51.19
Vance 😈
That season felt special because I felt like they were in a rut.

21:53.11
Nandi K
Do you know? Yeah, it was. Yeah.

21:55.26
Vance 😈
They were in a rut, and then that season was like, oh yeah.

21:57.08
Nandi K
That was a great season. I mean, Mistress, I really loved Mistress that season.

22:01.67
Vance 😈
Yeah, MIB.

22:02.04
Nandi K
I loved how she antagonized Lucy LaDuca. I did, yes, Lucy LaDuca was like the unhinged queen, the like runner-up queen, the always the bridesmaid, never the bride!

22:06.08
Vance 😈
Lucy!

22:10.39
Vance 😈
she was She was the villain.

22:16.73
Vance 😈
Well, Sasha's right there. I'm sorry, Lucy.

22:18.78
Nandi K
Yeah, it's the Sasha Colby show. And then I saw someone other day, somebody was like, Anetra was robbed. And people were under it a like, in no world, in no parallel universe, is Anetra winning over Sasha Colby?

22:33.46
Vance 😈
And no shade to Anitra, because Anetra is fucking amazing.

22:35.70
Nandi K
None.

22:37.50
Vance 😈
But it was just unfortunate Sasha Covey was there.

22:37.62
Nandi K
She is.

22:41.10
Vance 😈
And and I don't even...

22:43.13
Nandi K
For everyone, not just Anitra.

22:44.88
Vance 😈
Literally everyone. What's the other girl? ah the The skinny black girl.

22:48.90
Nandi K
Lux.

22:50.03
Vance 😈
Lux! Poor Lux.

22:51.64
Nandi K
Yeah.

22:52.43
Vance 😈
Because Lux is talented. um That being said, i don't even think it's because Sasha's old, right? Because who was um the grandma that was in the last season?

23:04.36
Nandi K
Yeah. the grandma.

23:04.98
Vance 😈
That's like our age.

23:07.16
Nandi K
Oh, who kept saying it? Lexi Love, was crying all the time.

23:09.46
Vance 😈
the Greek The Greek one.

23:11.04
Nandi K
Oh, um...

23:14.62
Nandi K
She's a she's one of those... Dion's, Athena Dion.

23:18.39
Vance 😈
yeah Yes, yes, Athena. um She came in on some Sasha Kobe shit, like I'm everyone's mother, and this ah she was so mid.

23:27.19
Nandi K
Yeah, she was very mid

23:27.22
Vance 😈
So it's not just like, oh, you got the experience and the accolades and the judges already know you because they've been to your shows. It's like Sasha got something. Her daughter was no good.

23:39.24
Vance 😈
Yeah.

23:41.50
Nandi K
Hey. She's cute. She turns and looks. That’s about it.

23:46.20
Vance 😈
Beautiful, beautiful gowns. When she got played out them stars a couple of seasons ago, that was so funny.

23:51.38
Nandi K
ah I was like...

23:52.63
Vance 😈
was like, do you not know how to read? Why would you do? You let you let Mistress evil last play you.

24:00.89
Nandi K
Mistress is so evil. All right, so what queens do you hate?

24:04.50
Vance 😈
Okay. So I don't hate any Queens. I don't think, but, um,

24:07.74
Nandi K
Sure, or dislike. Not your favorite. I'll say not my favorite.

24:11.86
Vance 😈
Yeah. No, and I'm just trying to think. ah the The one we said already, the one that was in... ah

24:18.07
Nandi K
Oh, are you afraid to say her name?

24:19.86
Vance 😈
No, I don't remember it.

24:21.46
Nandi K
Who?

24:22.14
Vance 😈
The one we just said, the one was in Sasha Kobe season.

24:23.77
Nandi K
Mistress.

24:24.74
Vance 😈
No, Mistress, yes, but Lucy LaDuca to me was like, what is this racist, bitch?

24:25.11
Nandi K
Miss Oh, Lucy LaDuca. oh yeah.

24:31.00
Nandi K
Yeah, she was definitely racist. She didn't like that non-white people were doing better than her.

24:36.20
Vance 😈
Right.

24:36.70
Nandi K
She changed her whole aesthetic.

24:36.79
Vance 😈
Well...

24:38.14
Nandi K
That was so encouraging. She came to the finale and she was like an alien now. Child...

24:43.51
Vance 😈
Look, if it don't work, you got to switch it up. um Plain Jane, but I feel like Plain Jane had like soft edges and like I didn't completely hate her, but she did feel oppie.

24:53.05
Nandi K
Yeah.

24:56.47
Nandi K
I like playing jane how Plain Jane pads and does her body. I love Plain Jane's body.

25:02.07
Vance 😈
I think Plain Jane...

25:02.52
Nandi K
like I love the girls that pad. Stop being skinny. Ew.

25:06.35
Vance 😈
I think she's a good queen, like technically.

25:08.76
Nandi K
Yeah, but I don't like her.

25:09.22
Vance 😈
It's just a, right.

25:10.04
Nandi K
Yeah, sure.

25:10.93
Vance 😈
Kind of like Sam Star, but Sam Star's not so bad.

25:11.22
Nandi K
Yeah, I don't care for her. Fair.

25:14.61
Vance 😈
I don't like her. She's just there right here because she's there.

25:16.31
Nandi K
Yeah, Sam, sorry. Okay, I also don't care for Jasmine Kennedy. Having her back on my screen in this current season has been deeply unpleasant.

25:27.29
Vance 😈
What don't you like about her? Is it like because she's kind of mid?

25:29.18
Nandi K
She talks too fucking much. She's mid.

25:32.68
Vance 😈
She's kind of mid.

25:32.89
Nandi K
um She thinks that she's super hot because she's thin. She doesn't pad. She doesn't course it tight enough. Like, I don't like her drag. I don't like drag. That's, “I'm skinny.”

25:47.83
Vance 😈
ah ah feel that. And I feel like...

25:49.02
Nandi K
And it's the same reason I don't care for Violet Chachki. Same thing. If I'm skinny is your drag, I'm not really...

25:54.25
Vance 😈
feel...

25:58.62
Nandi K
Interested in that.

26:00.25
Vance 😈
I feel like there's a definitely a version on drag queen, our drag queen, drag race where they they celebrate that.

26:07.85
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.

26:08.44
Vance 😈
I know they do tell them the pad so, it's not fully, right? But I do think there's a lot of like, oh, this bitch is skinny and pretty and then that's it.

26:15.90
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. They be like, she got a great body.

26:16.16
Vance 😈
And then like, they feel like,

26:18.34
Nandi K
I'm like, A Curious E. Davenport has the best body on Drag Race. I don't want to hear anybody else talking about it.

26:22.80
Vance 😈
but

26:24.95
Vance 😈
But then a lot of skinny girls don't do nothing else. And then it's just like, oh, you mad because you're getting ate up by, oh, who was the one that won last year?

26:28.17
Nandi K
Right.

26:35.32
Nandi K
um Mikey Meeks.

26:38.07
Vance 😈
Mikey Meeks won? Oh, before Mikey Meeks, the Black one. Our girl.

26:41.94
Nandi K
Oh, Anya Nerve, right.

26:43.26
Vance 😈
Yeah!

26:43.90
Nandi K
They hated her so bad, loved her.

26:44.06
Vance 😈
Love Anya! the The whole time they were like, they would never say she was a top runner.

26:47.99
Nandi K
yeah they hated her. Mm-mm.

26:52.10
Vance 😈
And I'm like, she is winning the most.

26:54.68
Nandi K
Yeah, I was like, that's weird.

26:55.26
Vance 😈
And she has not been in the bottom and she's better than y'all. Like, what do you mean?

27:00.50
Nandi K
Yeah.

27:00.63
Vance 😈
And it was like, cause she was not skinny. And I'm like, are y'all smoking crack? Like, cause they kept saying pretty, oh, the pretty girls are pretty girls.

27:04.76
Nandi K
Yeah. They are.

27:08.10
Vance 😈
And I was just like, I like, I'm not saying y'all not pretty. I just don't see what y'all saying when y'all say like top runner. And I'm like, Anya clearly is a top runner.

27:14.46
Nandi K
Right. Yeah, she's washing you, hoes.

27:17.02
Vance 😈
And almost every time you and I always know who the top runner, like we always know the top three.

27:22.62
Nandi K
Yeah, from almost the beginning.

27:24.98
Vance 😈
This season was a little weird. This last season. um

27:28.79
Nandi K
I didn't care for it.

27:31.29
Vance 😈
Yeah.

27:31.70
Nandi K
i Yeah, the queens were kind of meh, and like the queen I wanted to do well, Kenya didn't, and so there was that.

27:31.85
Vance 😈
it

27:39.29
Vance 😈
Kenya went home kind of early, huh?

27:40.17
Nandi K
Kenya Please her. No, she didn't go home as early as she should have.

27:46.16
Vance 😈
Kenya Pleaser. And then who was Mia Star?

27:48.70
Nandi K
Oh, Mia Star, also who I love, but I guess she was boring, and they didn't want her to...

27:56.18
Vance 😈
I think when Kenya went home, I was going for Mia, and then Mia went home, and I was like, look, y'all got it.

28:02.56
Nandi K
Kenya outlasted Mia yeah yes when Mia went home I was like oh this is crazy

28:04.23
Vance 😈
That's... Did she?

28:10.17
Vance 😈
Yeah, and Mia was dancing her ass off.

28:12.73
Nandi K
yeah no shade to Mikey Meeks good for her she's also a very talented queen but I just am always rooting for the Black queens or yeah

28:13.75
Vance 😈
Yeah.

28:17.46
Vance 😈
She was good. i i and that's what I was going to say. I typically go for like the Black Queens. And then if it's not the Black Queens and the next runner up Browns, but the Black Queens be killing it.

28:29.21
Nandi K
Yeah. They be killing it. Yeah.

28:32.02
Vance 😈
But I think unfortunately with mama Rue, like the black black Queens gotta be undeniable. And then they, that's how they make it to the show. Like, you know, just a little, just a little critical drag of, of our favorite mother fracker.

28:39.12
Nandi K
It's true. Well, hey. Hey. Hey.

28:45.55
Vance 😈
Um, yeah,

28:46.93
Nandi K
Mother Ru. That's from one of her songs.

28:53.95
Vance 😈
Well, I think so.

28:54.04
Nandi K
Well, I think we did it. Yeah. um

28:59.19
Vance 😈
Any final thoughts?

29:00.97
Nandi K
Today's episode is sponsored by Sibling Rivalry. It's actually not, but...

29:05.56
Vance 😈
I wish.

29:06.65
Nandi K
But I...

29:06.87
Vance 😈
Give us coins.

29:08.98
Nandi K
Maybe I got some ideas. That just made me think of an idea about someone who might want to, we might be a good candidate for Purse First Studios. um Maybe in the future, Purse First Studios. And a big thanks to our producer and audio adonis, Aaron Brand Freeman.

29:30.25
Nandi K
Vance?

29:30.58
Vance 😈
I've been Vance Gowe. You can find me at Sir (bleeped) a thawt over at the IG and threads. And who are you?

29:40.79
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. You can find me on Instagram and threads at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. See y'all.