[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to the baseball America hot cheat show always good to be here joined by Jeff Pons and JJ Cooper.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jacob Redner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hit the first move.

[SPEAKER_00]: Regular season come into an NJJ we are near to the playoffs and this year we will see a ton of players first and second year guys who we've been talking about for some time that are now kind of becoming the budding stars of today's game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob, Ms. Yorowski, Peyton, totally examples of what we're talking about.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I go to you first is because Ms. Yorowski has kind of become a personal project of yours this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: So why don't you kick us off and talk about, you know, the potential NL Si Young winner.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would say last year or two year before, I just love, I love Velo and if you love Velocity, it's hard to not just be absolutely blown away by what Jacob and his Rowski does, um, stat that I wanted to set up for this, which is, depending on how you round, like,

[SPEAKER_01]: We use synergy sports for a lot of our data and they round of velocity.

[SPEAKER_01]: So by then, Jacobus Rasky has 199 pitches thrown 100 and 3 miles an hour or harder.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would say 102.5 or harder, if you want to be accurate about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: 036, 054, 036, when he throws it that hard, but here's the stunning step to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: 76% strike percentage, when he throws one of the three, or harder.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that people have this idea that a picture throwing that hard is going to be doing so by kind of throwing, you know, out of the shoes, it's just

[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely, you know, max effort every time, Jacob is actually throws more strikes to harder he throws.

[SPEAKER_01]: When you see a 99, a hundred-bound hour fastball from him, often that means that as mechanics we're not as clean on that pitch, as there when you see 100, 101, 102, or 103 plus.

[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that when you talk about the brewers and the playoffs,

[SPEAKER_01]: they have a very good team.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if you said, well, why is this year maybe the year that the bro was can do it?

[SPEAKER_01]: They have a very good pitching staff.

[SPEAKER_01]: They've had a very good pitching staff.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that Jacob and Miss Rauski does give them an ace that I would say is a different level than they've had even with the Paraltas and the Brandon Wood Drifts and whoever else you want to Corbin Barnes, whoever he wants to go in there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Think Jacob and Miss Rauski is that guy who

[SPEAKER_01]: Two games out of a best of seven could absolutely kind of put games away, where it kind of doesn't matter if it goes right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't really matter who you're facing.

[SPEAKER_00]: The the future of pitching seems to be in really good hands Jeff, who else is standing out to you as a first or second year player on the mound who will be in the playoffs this year.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you got to go to Logan Henderson of the Brewers.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one of the more outlier for seem fastballs in the game at this point.

[SPEAKER_02]: When we look at height adjusted VA, so it's looking at the plane on your forcing fastball, how it travels, when you height adjusted, because obviously if you throw on higher on the zone, it's gonna be a little flatter, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_02]: You hide it just to standardize all that, so locations don't necessarily matter.

[SPEAKER_02]: He is eight tenths higher than the standard deviation of forcing fastball playing.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just an outlier pitch.

[SPEAKER_02]: He knows how to pitch on top of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is a reason that when Terek Scooble was available and the Brewers were engaged in trading negotiations, we've been told

[SPEAKER_02]: pretty heavily from multiple sources, not just baseball America, but just out there in baseball media that Henderson was kind of a no-fly zone player.

[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a good reason why.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he's continued to perform.

[SPEAKER_02]: He has these outlier traits.

[SPEAKER_02]: And also has the kind of stuff that could play either in, you know, an actual starting role, or just kind of a fire breathing dragon out of the bullpen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it doesn't have the velocity, but the swinging mist stuff is right on par with

[SPEAKER_02]: hours.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's big stop.

[SPEAKER_02]: This brewer's rotation is loaded with good young talent.

[SPEAKER_01]: Another young guy want to bring up is obviously Parker Messick with the Guardians remarkable season this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: Most years, I would say a rookie of the year season just happened to have it in the year that Kevin McGonagall is having an incredible, also rookie of the year season in the AL.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing that I wanted to note now, I want to give credit to Scott front of mine who kind of brought

[SPEAKER_01]: He's an example of how pitching development is important for all kind of pitchers, but how this works in the 2020s.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I do think if you look at Parker Messick coming out of college and you said, what do you think he's going to be?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would say they had a very good chance to be kind of a good number three at good number four starter.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was 99, too.

[SPEAKER_01]: He would touch a four or a bump of five and they absolutely best scenario for him.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here he is in the big leagues now, and he's no longer a soft officer.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's now sits 94 with his fastball, he's touch 98 this year, and that's kind of the loud him.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's always had the change up, he's always had commands, always had control.

[SPEAKER_01]: But now that he's kind of got this,

[SPEAKER_01]: by velocity standards for, you know, a league average is not better than that fastball to go if everything else.

[SPEAKER_01]: That kind of moves him much more into that front of the rotation territory than what it looked like he was gonna be coming out of the, you know, in the draft when very highly regarded.

[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, I don't think we expected that we'd be talking about a guy who sits 94 and touches an eight, which is what he does now.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're starting to see some questions trickle into the chat.

[SPEAKER_00]: We want to see more of those at the end of the show.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to answer your questions live.

[SPEAKER_00]: But right now, we're still talking about first and second year guys in the playoffs.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff, we're going to go back to you a couple more pictures that we have to touch on.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, if we're going to talk about Jacob Miss Yorowski and some of these other guys, I think we need to talk about Cam Schlittler.

[SPEAKER_02]: You probably can argue that Schlittler and Miss Yorowski, I don't think there's going to be a lot of arguments, are the two best right-handed pictures in baseball at this moment.

[SPEAKER_02]: Another phenomenal season for Schlittler, both of these guys, Miss Yorowski and Schlittler, both have ERA's below two.

[SPEAKER_02]: And he's doing that in Yankee Stadium.

[SPEAKER_02]: in the major leagues.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, I think you put that into perspective historically.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not very common.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just such a remarkable transformation.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know we've talked about it's been talked about at Nazium for the last few years, but it still racks my brain that this was a guy that in his draft summer was sitting 89 to 91 and was really mechanically flawed.

[SPEAKER_02]: I remember a scout with a white socks being like, you got to go check, check out Cam Schlittler tomorrow and I made plans to do that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was on a family vacation through my wife's role in rise behind me here in the story.

[SPEAKER_02]: But went there for a few innings and Schlittler really wasn't very good.

[SPEAKER_02]: And now you look fast forward, you know, six years later, and this is one of the best pictures in the planet, one of the best pictures that I've seen in the Yankees uniform.

[SPEAKER_02]: in my, you know, 44 years on earth.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, really, really impressive when it comes to Schlittler.

[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the velocity, all the things that he does so well, you know, Kudos the Yankees development certainly Kudos to him for getting to this point.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, he's a picture you don't want to face in a playoff matchup.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we want to talk about the bats as well, and the young bats that will be singing the playoffs also very impressive.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we're not going to see Kevin McGonagall.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to see Connor Griffin.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's other guys who will look forward to seeing hopefully in other years.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you look at the broers and what they've done also on the hitting side.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, the broers want to think it's most impressive about them.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's how there's just very few weaknesses in their lineup.

[SPEAKER_01]: But to bring up Cooper Pratt, to bring

[SPEAKER_01]: and very much they fit what the brewers want to do.

[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys are good defensively.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're I would say hit first guys in both cases, but they've been productive.

[SPEAKER_01]: They've been useful.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't expect either of them to be a star like we talk about Miss Rasker or even a Logan Henderson in the postseason, but it is notable that they are very possibly could have two rookies in the lineup as well, depending on the night.

[SPEAKER_01]: And

[SPEAKER_01]: That's something that, you know, the bruises seem to do year after year is like, oh, here's another guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then they got, obviously Jackson trio doesn't fit what we're talking about here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not a first or second year guy, but he is the age of a lot of the guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about, and he's another guy who's really, obviously massively emerged.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think you can look at, you know, position players and different roasters throughout this playoffs.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then we were talking about it, you know, before the show today, but Drake Baldwin, with the brave's is certainly another one of these guys.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you had mentioned it this way, kind of phrase it this way, JJ, that it's kind of remarkable to think that he's only a second-year guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: It does kind of feel like he's very much cemented himself as one of the, you know, primary pieces of that line up and, you know, one of the best players on that Brave's roster.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just developed into one of the best, I think, all the

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe is a fringy defender not going to necessarily be on the same part defensively as a Gabriel Moreno or a Dylan Dingler or even like a Carter Jensen.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I do think another guy that gives you something back there is the best hit or probably of this group.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Moreno, I think you can make that case based on this season.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the full body of work, I think I'd still put a behind-drink ball one.

[SPEAKER_02]: And a guy that can make a big impact on the playoffs and one of these series, which is

[SPEAKER_02]: There's just not a lot of catchers like that that can impact the game defensively.

[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, not a surprise that some of the best catchers in baseball are going to be in the playoffs as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's not nearly enough offensive data yet to go off of, but he could be the best here in this group.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hoesway DePolla is quite the specimen at the plate.

[SPEAKER_00]: However, JJ, he is also an interesting player to roster because he is not the specimen in the field that he is with the stick in his hand.

[SPEAKER_00]: How do I confuse him prospect?

[SPEAKER_00]: What are the Dodgers have in this budding bat?

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Thursday is see what happens here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because we've got guys coming off the I.L.

[SPEAKER_01]: We expect to see Joey Oton in this week, getting tuned up for the playoffs.

[SPEAKER_01]: As good as to Paul has been and check that up.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is a 474 on-base 500-slug, a nearly thousand OPS so far.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the other stat is basically almost all of his games so far have come at the age.

[SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers, he's even set himself, like, yeah, I'm hearing a lot of hate about my defense.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's warranted hate.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me say it's someone who's really dug into it.

[SPEAKER_01]: the Dodgers do not feel comfortable.

[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like yet really kind of putting them out in left field.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of hard to see where he plays regularly for them now with guys getting healthy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Andy Pah has off the I.L.

[SPEAKER_01]: Show me the Tony coming back.

[SPEAKER_01]: If he's not in the outfield and so we'll see like I could see anywhere from

[SPEAKER_01]: He's on the roster and playing if, you know, at least someone has been chitter type role, or maybe they get the role that I spend defensively or I can see him being left off of a roster, you know, a play out for roster simply because they can't see how to play.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff, let's talk about the Guardians, chase the water, Travis Pazana, guys who obviously spent some time in the spotlight now are really taking hold of that roster.

[SPEAKER_00]: What are they looking at here going into the playoffs?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm glad you came to me on two of my favorite all-time Cape players.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably inside my top five to 10.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the type of offense of firepower, not that it's a loaded lineup, but certainly upgrades in the lineup that this Guardian's team desperately needed.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that we get into year two, year three with each of these guys, certainly with the lotter as the Hungacy stays healthy, we'll see consistent improvement.

[SPEAKER_02]: They haven't had to sort of sacrifice the quality of contact for the quality of the abat, meaning Cleveland's always been known for guys that make a lot of contact that work counts, but not necessarily lineups that had impactful players with, you know, power and speed tools that could impact the game.

[SPEAKER_02]: in one swing or in the base path.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that, you know, while they're not, you know, crazy home run headers, neither of these guys have 20 home runs, though I think they will in future seasons, they do give them a little bit more danger in that line up than I think the guardians have had.

[SPEAKER_02]: previous playoff iterations where they've played just really saw it all around baseball gotten to the playoffs and they're kind of overmatched by better clubs.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think this gives them an opportunity to compete offensively and score worse than runs and you know, win some different types of ball games that we've seen the Guardians win before.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if we're going to talk about young players, we can't ignore the white socks.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, they have an entire outfield here of rookie, basically, antinoxy, Tristan Peters, Brad McGummery, you've got Colson McGummery's a second-year player.

[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Kyle Teele, like catcher.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is a team that really would not be where they are, if not for their rookies and second-year players.

[SPEAKER_01]: Got a couple of other guys, who Miguel Vargas has been around a little longer than that.

[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, you want to talk about a team that come postseason time if they're there, is going to be depending a lot on young guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't think of many teams.

[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we've got to say, hey, can spit out the pen as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is a team that really is impressive what their rookies have done so far.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's more hot sheet to come, but first,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: JJ, this year you've done some studying on how the zone has evolved in light of ABS, 2015 to now huge difference.

[SPEAKER_00]: It seems wanted to get into your article a little bit for us.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's stop at baseballair.com.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if you think of the zone in 2015, kind of I would say what we would think of as some of the traditional zone that empires called, there was a different zone for left-handed hitters or was a different zone for right-handed hitters.

[SPEAKER_01]: kind of you had a little bit more on the edges, you know, but what we're seeing now is pretty remarkable.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that as you measure that zone in 2015, you know, kind of the borderline is where balls were called 50% of the time strikes, 50% of the time balls.

[SPEAKER_01]: That strike zone was 495 square inches.

[SPEAKER_01]: This year is 401.

[SPEAKER_01]: So just kind of let that sink in that we've lost almost almost a

[SPEAKER_01]: And here we are, pitchers are still the strike percentage this year is 63.8%, they've adjusted, they've adapted.

[SPEAKER_01]: And also I think that this is important with this.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, is the zone that used to be different for lefties and righties.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now that now that there's an ABS challenge system is very much anchored on the plate, lefties used to have to protect, they kind of knew that the zone on the inside would be right at the black of the plate.

[SPEAKER_01]: But on the outside, they had to protect

[SPEAKER_01]: It's centered on the plate, and it is for writers too.

[SPEAKER_01]: So much more, I would say it's a much more consistent zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: You see there also on the graphic though, if you're watching us, that the bottom of the zone moved up this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the key part of the ABS challenge system.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob, when I look at this, it's like, it just is kind of remarkable to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: how umpires and pictures have all adapted to this.

[SPEAKER_01]: So quickly, we've had a pretty major change in the zone this year, but we haven't seen, I would say nearly probably the expected effects that you might see from that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Walk rates aren't through the, you know, through the roof.

[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't really seen a dramatic change.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is almost kind of flown under the radar how much different the zone is this year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it probably hasn't, my question back to you would be, what evolution do you think will come next?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because if we've learned anything, and I'll speak from the college side, which is where my area of expertise is, they're constantly tinkering with the strike zone.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the changes that we've seen bigger or smaller and the evolution that we've seen, I think we'll evolve again ahead of next year, where are the blind spots in your analysis of this right now?

[SPEAKER_01]: So I think, I don't know about blind spots, but the thing that where I think that I've been wrong is a study it is I expect these things to kind of have more effects than they have, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like so,

[SPEAKER_01]: The big difference at the bottom of the zone this year, it moved up by almost like an inch and a half.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you say, well, why is that?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's because this year with the ABS zone, they're measuring the strike zone, the box that you see when you see a challenge on the pitch, is at the middle of the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: And in the past, on tires were graded at the front of the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: So logically, if you think about it, if you throw a pitch, gravity's gravity, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: No one's throwing, this is not fast, it's softball.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing's rising.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if you were gonna cross the plate

[SPEAKER_01]: from the plate at the bottom of the zone, that's now below the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they kind of had to move all that up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I expected that to really significantly impact sinker ballers, guys who like to throw sliders into the bottom of the zone, changeups, and studying those pictures, it seems like what really happened is they just recalibrated and started locating to the new bottom of the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: to the new edge of the zone and umpires as well they've been calling this old zone I would say for the really come for their lives and they've adjusted very quickly as well the adaptability of big leegers both pictures hitters and umpires all of them is really remarkable and just kind of you know I know everyone loves to kind of remember all the misses and all but it does kind of amazed me just how good these people are at these things.

[SPEAKER_00]: kind of an interesting point here if we look at the the chat and I thought it was a Clint kind of live here, but Sammy asks, should hitters be killing pitchers then, JJ, what why don't you take that on?

[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason that they're not is because the pitching is so good right now like I still I'll start with here like I said that strike percentage I know we look at walk race and all that but I always look at strike percentage is kind of the core of are you throwing strikes or not And the strike percentage right now with what we just established is a much smaller strike zone like if you go back to the turn of the 21st century

[SPEAKER_01]: and the strike percentage back then for Major League Pitcher was 62% in most years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's up to Rear 64.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you say, well, why is that?

[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that this is also, when we say like how velocity keeps increasing in the majors, you have to win in the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: It is not something where you can really build an arsenal at the big league level.

[SPEAKER_01]: around forcing pitchers to hitters to chase out of the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have pitches that win in the zone.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what does that mean?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's when we talk about the Jacob Isarowski says we did in the first segment.

[SPEAKER_01]: Having pitches where if you're throwing 97, 98, you're throwing 101, it's much easier to win in the zone than if you're throwing 91, 92, 93.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's why hitters aren't dominating is because the pitching the stuff is just so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get right into it.

[SPEAKER_00]: First question, we just answered one of years.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do it again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Sammy Boy Smith, the Savant, who benefits the most winning the World Series this season, JJ?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to answer this like jeopardy in the form of a question.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me propose for you that we are knowing that we are heading to an off season with a CBA negotiation, almost assuredly a lockout, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: We have two sides who are very far apart right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: We have if let's just post a question.

[SPEAKER_01]: If the world series is let's say Dodgers Yankees or Dodgers Red Sox, how different will the off season landscape be?

[SPEAKER_01]: Then if the postseason the world series

[SPEAKER_01]: Because on one of these, if the Dodgers win a real series over the Yankees, it would be like see, you know, the MLB talking point of see, it's really, yes, the brewers can do stuff in the regular season, so can the race and other small marketing.

[SPEAKER_01]: But come post season, the salaries really do matter.

[SPEAKER_01]: The debt really does matter.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the flip side of that is, again, if it's Brewer's raise, let's say, where you have two of the smaller market revenue teams in baseball who are generally pretty consistently successful.

[SPEAKER_01]: But especially if one of those is going to win the world series, which the Brewer's obviously these are teams that have, you know, have made trips, but I don't want it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at the raise, you know, and they're kind of frequent trips to the world series, you know,

[SPEAKER_01]: If either of those one, that would be the PA, the MLBPA's narrative of C, it's really actually not as nearly as much of a competitive balance problem as you're saying.

[SPEAKER_01]: There are given it it would be C you have owners that aren't willing to spin, but smart owners with good front offices can succeed.

[SPEAKER_01]: So when you say who benefits the most, I think it depends on who wins the real series on whether Major League Baseball or the Major League Baseball players association

[SPEAKER_00]: JJ, I got a throw a question right back to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: This one from Uncle Ted as our ABS expert.

[SPEAKER_00]: Four Seams, he says, got roofed by ABS.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not true.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you can bring up that with the three boxes again in it, that graphic, the top of the zone is actually the one spot that, no, not that one, though, one that's got the three the red blue and black boxes, but the top of the zone, there we go, has actually gone.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at that red, that's 26, it's gone up, if you look at 25 that also had gone up.

[SPEAKER_01]: The top of the zone is being called for strikes at a level that was not being called 10 years ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: When you say forcing fastballs, that's where you're looking for them.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the flip side of that is at the bottom of the zone, which is I would say where the sinkers live more often, that's where it's really moved up.

[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously the edges of the zone where you could say breaking balls, especially sliders, sweepers, pitches like that, changeups, even, are all kind of been narrowed a little bit as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd actually say the zone is its dawn is kind of actually encouraged

[SPEAKER_02]: If I could follow for a second on that, I will say when it was full ADS intripley a few years ago, they were still trialling out the system, they're still figuring some things out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Depending upon the park that you were at, the op of the zone could be higher or lower.

[SPEAKER_02]: So like I remember talking to some hitters, call some Montgomery who we talked about earlier in the show, had mentioned to me that they were certain parks were like, he knew that he had an extra ball, half a ball, maybe at the top of the zone.

[SPEAKER_02]: versus when he was, you know, what he was at home versus when he was in Rochester or Worcester or something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think they kind of figured out some of those adjustments just based on the triple A sample size that they had for a couple of years.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we went away from full ABS for a reason.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are moving on to our next question here.

[SPEAKER_00]: This one coming from Philip Denny, eight, nine, six.

[SPEAKER_00]: OK, we're going to answer this one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jeff will go back to you, assuming the Dodgers run 13, 13.

[SPEAKER_00]: Two of the following won't make the roster Alex call.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ho's way to Paula.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't hold on, I'm struggling to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it here, Nancy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Keep it here, Nancy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Keep it here, Nancy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Miguel Rojas.

[SPEAKER_02]: Alex Freely, Alex Freely, this is a tough one.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I want, I want a hostway to Paul, to be on the roster.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, I want to watch more to Paula.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, I feel like they have enough outfield options there with Alex Call.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's the two Alexes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the Alexes are out.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that's how I would lean.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's necessarily the best play for the Dodgers because there are some fundamental questions that I'm sure JJ has more in this and probably you're self-rout as someone who watches the Dodgers quite a bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: The bat, there's no questions about the bat with.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh, host weight of Paula, but just how he fits into, you know, this playoff roster, he's not seeing every day at bats.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's a little bit less valuable as, you know, he's not going to be a late inning defensive replacement.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's the kind of guy that you put a defensive replacement in for.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, can run a little bit.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's probably some value on the base paths, but, you know, is it that much more than some of the other names we mentioned?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think strictly from an entertainment perspective, and this isn't an entertainment product at

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we've got one more in us, we're going to go back to Philip for our final question.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're both going to answer this so keep it tight.

[SPEAKER_00]: An MLB team populated exclusively from AA and AAA all stars wins, Blake games in 162, Jeff, you get to kick us off.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it's, I think I'm going to give you a range.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's 40 to 70.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's going to depend on the year.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because you had years where Juan Soto, I mean, if it's anybody that plays in AA, Juan Soto was in AA and then was up in the majors and, you know, was an impactful player.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think it depends on the year.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like that year, I think soda was in AA, Devers was in AA, Boba Shepp was in AA, Vlad Guerrero Jr was in AA, but that's a pretty loaded team.

[SPEAKER_02]: Even if it's all rookies, I don't think any of these teams are winning 80 games.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I bet like you might have some outlier years where they could win 70, just because of the level of talent in certain years that was kind of suppressed, service time wise and kept in the minors.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's other years where it's probably like 30 or 40.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think just based the nature of baseball, losing 40 games.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, winning 40 games, we've seen some really terrible teams win 40 games.

[SPEAKER_02]: So AA, AAA, all stars, like the best players in the top of the miners, there's a lot of guys that are close and potentially already ready.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think there's a decent range there.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think you're going to have any teams that are breaking, you know, 500 or let alone like 450 in terms of winning percentage.

[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that what I would say is is look at that white socks team of a couple of years ago, and I do think that you could say better than that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that especially like two things.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have more depth because if you say double I triple I all stars I can keep those injuries I can keep going down to other guys who are good.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the white socks if you look at those lineups rosters they were terrible.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the second part of it is is I think I'm pure talent like especially you get some of these guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you say the double I you know like even as you said, hey.

[SPEAKER_01]: for this year and for next year, like some of those guys are big leaders.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we, this would have had Kevin McGonagall and Connor Griffin on your team this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you had a AA all start team from last year, playing this year, so I would say, you know, 40 to 50.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there you have it.

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