00:24.42
Vance π
Welcome back to Right Quick.
00:26.42
Nandi K
A bite-sized pop culture conversation with your favorite queer, unfriendly Black hotties.
00:31.65
Vance π
We're unfriendly today because Stockholm Syndrome got you dizzy hoes thinking that y 'all like capitalism. Y 'all ain't tired. I'm Vance Gowe.
00:42.17
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi Kay. I don't think that the LLC brunch boot Niggas ever get tired.
00:49.60
Vance π
They believe a hustle grows here. Every minute you ain't working, you're getting broker, or whatever they be saying.
00:52.83
Nandi K
Yeah. Wake up at 4 30 a .m. Put my face in an ice cold bath of Saratoga sparkling water.
00:58.38
Vance π
Right.
01:01.47
Nandi K
Work out.
01:01.81
Vance π
Banana. Banana pills on my skin. Chase a truck. Outrun a cheetah.
01:08.09
Nandi K
yeah well Have you seen the one where the man... the dad be like dragging running in but he be dragging his daughter like on some kind of like truck and it be sparks flying basically. ttd be looking like a sled and it'd be sparks flying we'd be like yo maybe you should focus on being a parent nigga
01:16.47
Vance π
Uh-uh. The sled.
01:25.36
Vance π
Is... Is it real?
01:27.51
Nandi K
Yes! It is real.
01:30.44
Vance π
I think if you're doing anything with sparks are flying and it's not like welding, like what are you doing? Like.
01:35.77
Nandi K
Bro, and your child is on it?
01:36.49
Vance π
you And the baby's involved.
01:38.22
Nandi K
The sparks are near your baby, first of all.
01:40.21
Vance π
A baby's involved?
01:41.75
Nandi K
If you can't strap your baby to you while you work out, I think you need to. Chill it out, homeboy.
01:50.02
Vance π
ah I would like you to send me that clip because that sounds ridiculous.
01:52.91
Nandi K
If I can find it, I'll have to find it because it was a while ago, but that wasreally insane. Today, we're talking about capitalism, which we hate. Boo, tomato, tomato.
02:03.85
Vance π
Listen. do we Do we talk about... I feel like everything we talk about is related to capitalism. Not everything, but like most of the stuff.
02:11.15
Nandi K
I do feel like we say how capitalism sucks like a lot.
02:14.55
Vance π
Hey. it's ruining everybody's lives and I think the sooner we all get on the same page about that and then and then like moving away that like it's getting away from it we might be better but it's not gonna happen these hoes like I said they love it
02:17.38
Nandi K
Yeah.
02:22.74
Nandi K
Yeah. Well, you know, the tough part is that even if a lot of us agreed. like it still would kind of be in place as a system but i also wonder if we could get a large amount of people to be like, stop paying for stuff.
02:46.61
Vance π
Divest.
02:48.52
Nandi K
Then what? you know?
02:49.95
Vance π
I mean... the um Not to be plugging, folks, but the ah the Debt Collective that our mutual is a part of, they do...
02:55.44
Nandi K
Oh yeah. Yes, yes, yes
02:56.99
Vance π
um they do rent strikes and they organize rent strikes and stuff.
02:59.31
Nandi K
Yes, I do.
03:00.50
Vance π
So like, I'm like, I'm. um I need to get more involved with them. Because I'm like, that's the stuff.
03:04.28
Nandi K
Yeah, I wish we could have something more like that was bigger, but those things do take such a large amount of organizing because when you talk about general strikes and boycotts, you got to make sure that people who don'tnmhave resources who have to give up you know what they have going on are supported but yeah we're talking about capitalism because working for a living is fucking ass um I did. You know, because like working for a living basically implies that if you don't work, you don't deserve to be alive. And that is basically how it is. like You don't work?
Maybe not even through any fault of your own.
03:45.13
Vance π
Mm hmm
03:46.23
Nandi K
You don't have food. You don't have a place to live.
03:49.61
Vance π
Well, the way...
03:50.00
Nandi K
Then how will you get a job after that?
03:52.78
Vance π
the way i see it is like we're all working under duress like if you don't work you're gonna die so it's like well and it's just like how do you find how do you find time to do things you care about if like
03:55.71
Nandi K
Yes. Yeah.
04:03.74
Nandi K
Ugh.
04:04.94
Vance π
If it is like oh we just gotta work or like oh i don't like this and like I don't know i feel like employers don't want to hear that but it's like no bitch I don't like this job i just need food, same as you!
04:15.46
Nandi K
Yeah.
04:16.01
Nandi K
Yeah, no, for sure. like You have to do the things you enjoy in your spare time from work. and I know for me, with my last job, that really had me burning the candle at both ends.
04:33.67
Nandi K
Um. I wasn't getting enough sleep. I wasn't eating enough, I lost a lot of weight my ass got smaller which is devastating
04:43.87
Vance π
The biggest travesty of all.
04:45.31
Nandi K
the biggest loss of all is that, but now I don't have that job anymore. and it's cool because I can do all the things I want to do, but also I don't have money. And so...
So catch 22. Because I am working. I'm just not getting paid for any of the work that I'm doing.
05:05.83
Vance π
Right.
05:06.97
Nandi K
Yeah.
05:07.16
Vance π
Right.
05:07.60
Nandi K
And that's the crazy part. like You can't be an artist. And that's the thing about capitalism too. Basically working artists have become like obsolete. You have to be rich. If you want to be... a quote unquote, working artist. or you have to commit to being poor. And knowing that maybe you'll never be above struggling.
05:33.44
Vance π
And I don't know, I also feel like ah people... think or feel like artists should be poor or like like even
05:39.63
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm getting out of that.
05:41.38
Vance π
Even activists, like when people like activists do anything to make money or they got a book deal, what the fuck do you think?
05:43.02
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
05:48.17
Vance π
Likeβ¦
05:49.25
Nandi K
Guys, we all have to work.
05:49.49
Vance π
You... you left right you left here too bitch like you know that like everybody gotta have a job and my job is
05:56.39
Nandi K
Poverty is not a virtue it's a systemic problem. that doesn't have to exist so let's stop being like we should be poor
06:02.40
Vance π
Right.
06:05.31
Nandi K
Like...
06:05.57
Vance π
That's that's crazy
06:06.23
Nandi K
No one should be poor.
06:08.47
Vance π
And it's like... at least your needs should be met, right? Like, like, yeah, like.
06:12.76
Nandi K
That's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. Like If your needs are met, you're not poor. If your basic needs are met. You are not poor. In America, when you are poor, you don't have all your basic needs
06:27.21
Vance π
There's also this idea that like the government when people say things like the government should not ah the government is not responsible for housing and feeding y 'all.
06:38.24
Nandi K
Oh.
06:39.42
Vance π
I said dude don't y 'all watch Game of Thrones like I thought y 'all liked game of thrones like That's what all this shit's based on. like Bitch, the the the ruling class, like they are responsible for making sure the people are like fed and housed.
06:52.08
Nandi K
Yes.
06:52.73
Vance π
What do you mean? But they say that with their whole chest.
06:54.74
Nandi K
This is why Raniere was so pressed. This is why Rayneira so pressed. like Damn, they riding in the streets, bitch, because they ain't got no food. Fuck, it ain't no gold.
07:02.33
Vance π
They're hungry they're hungry you know also you you created a blockade o to hurt them so that they would vibe with you it was your fault and now that you're in charge you got to deal with the ramifications and ain't that ain't that what it mean to leave baby
07:08.28
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mhm.
07:15.08
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Ain't that about a bitch?
07:19.13
Vance π
But yeah, the when people say that online, I be like, am I crazy?
07:24.98
Nandi K
No.
07:25.29
Vance π
Why do you feel comfortable saying that? Like, oh, the the government's not... And it's just like, yeah, like... it is it is un I think it's unethical to like allow people to be like...
07:35.37
Vance π
on the street and shit what are we doing
07:37.02
Nandi K
Yes. Yes, it's unethical to allow people, when there's empty homes that people are paying to keep empty.
07:38.59
Vance π
And then.
07:46.45
Vance π
Corporations.
07:48.97
Nandi K
Yeah, I just like. Can't. Speaking of... um you know, artists and and being like a working artist. It also, and this has kind of been, and I've been trying to get over this lately, but how capitalism changes our relationship to art when you're trying to get paid. For your art?
08:10.01
Vance π
Mm hmm.
08:09.97
Nandi K
You start asking yourself different questions about the things you're making. you start thinking who will buy this who will want to buy this and you might start making asking yourself these questions.
08:22.59
Nandi K
before you even make the thing.
08:24.98
Vance π
Right.
08:26.68
Nandi K
Which...
08:26.65
Vance π
Yeah.
08:27.78
Nandi K
Is that really authentic? Because I don't when I make art, I'm not really thinking about what other people... will like per se.
08:39.28
Vance π
Yeah, I mean, it it does feel like the whole like... can I sell this or how much even can i sell this for like yeah it gets in a way of just genuine creation
08:49.99
Nandi K
Yeah.
08:50.61
Vance π
But it also sucks of what we're talking about where it's just like if you If you don't have security, then...
08:58.02
Nandi K
How are you going to make it?
08:57.78
Vance π
It's that whole saying he, what is it? He's. It's like rent due. You know what I'm talking about?
09:03.08
Nandi K
Which one? Rent due.
09:04.10
Vance π
the same where they're like oh he dancing like written dude like this idea that like like you're you're trying to get your bills paid that's why you're trying so hard and i'm like i think that takes away from the essence of creation
09:06.95
Nandi K
Oh yeah.
09:10.68
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I agree.
09:15.73
Vance π
Where it's like, well, bitch, like you're only creating so that you can eat a meal, which, I mean, that's the world we live in, so it's not I'm not saying that people are completely wrong for that, but that sucks.
09:22.22
Nandi K
mm-hmm
09:26.22
Nandi K
Yeah, it does suck. Yeah, it does suck. Because it's like... If you're just creating under duress.
I just think about how like being under duress, you're not your best self.
09:42.96
Vance π
No, I mean
09:43.11
Nandi K
You're not producing the greatest thing that you can produce. Personally, for me, When I'm under duress, I can't really create shit. I really struggle to find quote unquote inspiration. I don't want to make nothing. I want to lay down.
09:58.52
Vance π
I mean, in court, you can't even like use something that was given under duress. You know, it's like they won't even take it. It's just like, well, girl, you were under duress during your ah what's it called?
10:05.71
Nandi K
Hey.
10:09.03
Vance π
ah with what is Confession. You were under duress during your confession.
10:10.85
Nandi K
Yeah!
10:12.94
Vance π
Somebody had a gun up to you and said, confess.
10:14.26
Nandi K
Yeah.
10:14.77
Vance π
We can't take that. That's not real. so it's just like
10:16.71
Nandi K
But it will buy your art like that though. It said, ooh, you was about to die.
10:21.09
Vance π
ah Is that...
10:21.05
Nandi K
Wow, this is made with your blood from...
10:22.98
Vance π
Is that blood?
10:24.20
Nandi K
From the blood you gave to the blood bank to be able to make your rent?
10:24.32
Vance π
Is that? okay
10:27.87
Nandi K
Wow.
10:28.92
Vance π
Did you cut an arterial blaine to make ah vein to make this?
10:30.86
Nandi K
One million dollars.
10:33.13
Vance π
Right.
10:33.15
Nandi K
Cheers.
10:33.37
Vance π
I said, oh yeah, I have two.
10:34.41
Nandi K
Now you're trying to sell blood on the internet.
10:38.35
Vance π
And I mean, we're not far from that. I mean.
10:40.22
Nandi K
It's a slippery slope.
10:41.86
Vance π
We not far from it. I'm all i'm And we in a recession.
10:46.48
Nandi K
A depression. No, honey. We're in a depression. No matter what they're trying to tell you, I just saw a statistic the other day. that unemployment has not been this low since ninth. This high since 1929. Now why is that a significant year?
11:02.74
Vance π
The... The last, the last depression.
11:06.84
Nandi K
The Great Depression, not the Last Depression. US has had plenty of depressions because capitalism's nature. It cannot. survive without. collapse capitalism collapses every eight to 10 years. They call them recessions, but they're just little depressions. But the Great Depression. That's why it's called the Great Depression because it was. So bad. Um... That so many people died of starvation. That's when niggas started, white people started eating food and jello. That's when like... A lot of these kind of like instant foods. started. Coming up and shit. and in the rural south a lot of Black people were just kind of left to starve because Black people weren't even eligible for the programs of the New Deal. That was a part of passing it, that they had to exclude Black people from it. So... We have to be thinking about it more than ever because the government keeps saying, look at the stock market. The stock market is going great!
12:18.15
Vance π
To somebody
12:19.24
Nandi K
Bitch, I have no stocks.
12:21.45
Vance π
Right. Somebody's making money.
12:21.85
Nandi K
Stocks to have nothing to do with me.
12:23.84
Vance π
It's not the people
12:25.95
Nandi K
Stocks have nothing to do with me.
12:30.80
Vance π
Yeah, right now, my um I think I mentioned on the podcast, my ah my last job, I was working at a school, charter charter school.
12:37.74
Nandi K
then
12:37.98
Vance π
Charter did not get renewed. so Everybody at my job had to, you know. We don't have a job, refugees.
12:43.72
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
12:44.25
Vance π
Um It's rough. Like, you know, if you're just looking at a sample size, of some people are getting jobs, mostly the whites, but ah some people are getting jobs, but like a lot of people struggling.
12:46.33
Nandi K
Yeah, sorry.
12:52.71
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
12:55.44
Vance π
And it's just like, I'm looking at some folks like, whoa, because like they don't have support. and and like one way through this I know we're gonna get to it but like one way through this is fucking like support like if you don't have like
13:00.68
Nandi K
Yeah.
13:06.59
Nandi K
Okay.
13:08.27
Vance π
And I know everybody don't have it, so there's privilege in it, but it's still like. so you need communal support, if you got family support lean into like you need family support but like I think Black and brown people I think we
13:14.42
Nandi K
Yeah. yeah Yes.
13:21.77
Vance π
The muscle has been worked a lot more for us.
13:23.87
Nandi K
mm-hmm
13:24.38
Vance π
So... So obviously this is not a good time for us, but I think we have a little more. um resilience as well but we have a little more experience coming together and figuring some shit out because i mean like even in our friend group like i think uh Aaron has that joke like we all got it's all the same twenty dollars being passed around But, it like...
13:31.70
Nandi K
Yeah.
13:42.44
Nandi K
Yeah. yeah with inflation now we're up to 500 but yes we are basically all passing around let's say 500
13:43.80
Vance π
it Right. I need $500, friends.
13:51.51
Nandi K
Listen. Same.
13:53.46
Vance π
And then y 'all send it.
13:53.02
Nandi K
We all need $500. Please send us $500.
13:57.09
Vance π
Right.
13:58.21
Nandi K
You can contact Right Quick Pod on Instagram.
14:01.22
Nandi K
We'll tell you how to get it to each of us, for each of us. That's $1 ,500 total. There's three people here.
14:07.79
Vance π
Right. We can make something shake with it
14:10.52
Nandi K
We could take that. flip it.
14:13.76
Vance π
Uh-uh.
14:13.73
Nandi K
I saw my daddy recently. And I saw my dad recently, speaking of getting money from art. communal support.
14:21.87
Vance π
Yeah.
14:22.76
Nandi K
Because I got laid off a few months ago. Layoffs kind of a part of the game in tech, but they're kind of also a scam anyway. I was talking to my dad and he was like, you know, all you got to do is. Played a lottery. Then you win the lottery. Flip take that. flip it so every time something happens i just been like all you gotta do is take that Flip it.
14:49.87
Vance π
No. That's what, that's, that's nigga.
14:53.26
Nandi K
Yes.
14:53.82
Vance π
That's niggas. Niggas be like, give me your tax refund.
14:55.07
Nandi K
Yes.
14:58.01
Nandi K
Yeah.
14:58.05
Vance π
I'm gonna take that. And flip it.
14:59.90
Nandi K
Flip it? Exactly.
15:03.52
Vance π
Then I'm gonna come back and do what are you gonna do it? You gonna give it back to me? and They'll never talk about giving your shit back
15:06.69
Nandi K
Yeah. No, they don't and then
15:10.27
Vance π
it's
15:10.66
Nandi K
With unemployment, mind you, unemployment's been pretty bad in tech for a while. I got laid off like three years ago. as well and it took me like six months to find a full-time role um I got like a contract role after three months. Baby there's people who have been employed for two unemployed for two years, three years. you know? um So is... bad out here and Thanks to Gen AI. You know, these crackers want slaves. They want people who can work 24 hours and who won't complain. They're like, AI can do it.
15:49.81
Nandi K
AI can do it. AI can do it. Okay. They can do some things. As somebody who worked in technology and I think I have a pretty good grip on like AI, it can do some things. But you still need people to look at it.
16:05.02
Vance π
You need people. You need people.
16:06.03
Nandi K
um But they just want slaves and that's why they're like laying everybody off. But a lot of these companies who have done these AI layoffs, some of them even used AI to determine who they would lay off.
16:17.84
Nandi K
are getting sued like Meta. They're getting sued for that. Yeah. Yeah.
16:25.78
Vance π
It... It always feels like, I know Blade Runner is not a show, but it feels like an episode of, like, Blade Runner. or Just like, ah really, you know which you know which a dystopian I think is pretty on point?
16:32.47
Nandi K
Yes.
16:36.39
Vance π
ah Alien.
16:38.08
Nandi K
Oh, sure.
16:39.24
Vance π
Like are like Are you in the franchise? cause like you Just the first one, really. um
16:43.07
Nandi K
Yeah.
16:44.16
Vance π
Corporations, running shit, trillionaires.
16:46.27
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
16:47.62
Vance π
um The corporations are the countries.
16:47.42
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
16:49.26
Vance π
they not like they're like There's no pretense.
T16:50.88
Nandi K
Yep.
16:51.94
Vance π
They're just the whole country. And then um in the Alien movies, there's always some oppy-ass AI.
16:57.39
Nandi K
Yep, they're doing that they're doing colonization on other planets, just like Elon is trying to do, crashing into the moon and shit.
17:00.55
Vance π
Yeah. Mm hmm.
17:04.14
Vance π
The aliens, I mean, I don't know if they're inherently bad, but I think what makes them bad is their allegiance to the corporations because the corporations like get the alien specimen back. And he'd be like, what about the crew? And they'd be like Get the specimen back.
17:19.16
Nandi K
Chyle.
17:19.66
Vance π
And it and that's like every alien movie so like I uh watching the Alien tv show the the the rest of the country is ran by six corporations they're all like the countries just and I'm just like
17:27.39
Nandi K
Mm-hmm. Yes. Oh yeah.
17:31.74
Vance π
How did Aliens get it the most right? Like I said, i that was not on my bingo card, but like Aliens was like... We got our first trillionaire recently. I'm like, uh, they got it. They. And at the end of the day, it's not even that the Alien is bad. It's that the corporation is risking everybody's lives to get this alien here because they want to live forever so they can just spend their money.
17:47.80
Nandi K
Yeah.
17:53.93
Nandi K
But that's not going to work because that also reminds me of that.
17:54.00
Vance π
I say look.
17:57.32
Nandi K
um rich nigga who was like taking his son's blood and putting it into his body and taking all these supplements and shit but then he got diagnosed with the autoimmune disorder like a stomach autoimmune disorder
18:10.63
Vance π
ah And why not? you You don't even have your own blood in your body.
18:13.33
Nandi K
You cannot.
18:13.25
Vance π
Like, how you fighting off... Are you?
18:15.09
Nandi K
You cannot. Out. pace. Pace life, guys.
18:18.62
Vance π
life
18:20.39
Nandi K
Elon Musk looks like A toad ate him. like
18:24.51
Vance π
He do. Yeah.
18:26.25
Nandi K
What's the movie where a nigga's skin be... Oh, maybe that's Men in Black, where like their skin suits be like bubbling up and shit.
18:31.25
Vance π
Oh! is... is
18:33.30
Nandi K
That's what Elon Musk looks like to me.
18:35.56
Vance π
The roach nigga, is that better when he pulled his head back?
18:36.87
Nandi K
Yes!
18:38.28
Vance π
you
18:38.30
Nandi K
Yes. That's what Elon Musk looks like to me.
18:41.93
Vance π
Um. Elon Musk is built like a Cybertruck. I think that's...
18:44.97
Nandi K
Well, have you seen him before? You know he's had a lot of work done so he could look like a Cybertruck.
18:50.35
Vance π
ah Why would you want to be built like that? like
18:52.37
Nandi K
You should see what he used to look like.
18:54.74
Vance π
His chest look, yeah.
18:56.18
Nandi K
it wasn't like that he's on like he's on like you know he's on bones All the men are on bones these days.
19:02.58
Vance π
Oh, I mean, that's a thing too.
19:04.70
Nandi K
Yeah, all the men are hormones.
19:04.40
Vance π
They talking about it.
19:06.40
Nandi K
Yeah.
19:06.54
Vance π
That's fascism though. They're trying to like design their bodies um
19:08.68
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm. But Kerr Franklin is on my own. I'm like, girl.
19:14.11
Vance π
Your uncle
19:15.08
Nandi K
It's for the dolls. I mean, it's for the it's for the gays, not the dolls.
19:18.50
Vance π
uh what's uh no they were just talking about that on a podcast I listened to um the government Pete Hegseth up weird ass um
19:25.84
Nandi K
Oh yeah.
19:26.87
Vance π
M- The whole, I think someone said wolf pheromones. That was not on the podcast, but someone else was like, they're talking about giving ah soldiers, male soldiers.
19:31.82
Nandi K
Oh my god.
19:35.31
Nandi K
Was that not Aaron saying that? In our group chat?
19:37.60
Vance π
Aaron, was that you?
19:38.44
Nandi K
I feel like that was Aaron saying that in our group chat.
19:41.08
Aaron Rand Freeman
Old wolf pheromones? Yeah, I was talking a little bit of shit.
19:42.91
Vance π
What?
19:43.79
Aaron Rand Freeman
it's just test But it was like.
19:43.93
Nandi K
Yeah!
19:45.38
Vance π
Oh.
19:46.54
Aaron Rand Freeman
Look.
19:46.71
Nandi K
oh That was definitely Aaron in our group chat.
19:47.04
Vance π
No. And look that I'm like, somebody, somebody I know that was saying that. And I thought that shit was funny. Cause I'm like, that's how you get Were niggas. But also like.
19:56.49
Nandi K
Yes, that's exactly what you said.
19:58.75
Vance π
That's not far off from what they do it like with like oh, yeah wolf
20:02.09
Nandi K
Also, have you seen this thing of Pete Hegseth do exercises?
20:06.88
Vance π
With the jeans on?
20:08.50
Nandi K
Bruh, this is not even the first time.
20:10.65
Vance π
see
20:11.08
Nandi K
He did it with the jeans on, but there's been times where he had on shorts. He was doing a kettlebell swing.
20:16.10
Vance π
Uh-uh.
20:16.13
Nandi K
That's not how you do a kettlebell swing.
20:17.33
Vance π
I said I know.
20:18.27
Nandi K
He don't know how to do a squat. Noth-
20:20.44
Vance π
I know I smell crazy in there. Nigga, why you got on jeans?
20:23.38
Nandi K
Yeah.
20:26.50
Nandi K
Bruh.
20:27.16
Vance π
You ain't Patrick Swayze. What you doing? Roundhouses and jeans.
20:33.89
Vance π
Stupid bitch.
20:34.33
Nandi K
Not me choking. Oh, my God.
20:37.70
Vance π
That's crazy.
20:41.63
Nandi K
Hello. Thank God.
20:45.26
Vance π
We talked about it a little, but...
20:47.18
Nandi K
Huh?
20:47.78
Vance π
um
20:49.24
Nandi K
Oh am my god.
20:50.54
Vance π
and
20:52.22
Nandi K
I'm dying. Huh? Okay. Oh god.
21:00.08
Vance π
You good?
21:00.48
Nandi K
Jesus Christ. Huh? They must be stopped.
21:08.92
Nandi K
I almost lost my life just then. Oh god.
21:12.52
Vance π
and jumping in jeans.
21:14.58
Nandi K
And then they're trying to make everybody skinny again.
21:14.74
Vance π
Crazy. Oh, that Ozempic.
21:18.51
Nandi K
Okay. And I'm like, y 'all know y 'all gonna die when it ain't no food. Y 'all gonna die first.
21:25.53
Vance π
Somebody say they're not absorbing nutrients properly. I'll say I could never.
21:29.43
Nandi K
It is not time. in history to be skinny. It's literally the worst time with food costing more and more.
21:35.03
Vance π
Right.
21:39.28
Nandi K
People literally can barely afford groceries. So why do you think they give you medicine to make you not hungry?
21:47.29
Vance π
Right.
21:48.01
Nandi K
ah
21:49.68
Vance π
And y 'all willingly taking it
21:51.37
Nandi K
This one I'm up here pumping on protein. Trying to eat three meals a day.
21:56.78
Vance π
I'm so sick of protein I got protein milk.
22:00.98
Nandi K
Yeah.
22:01.85
Vance π
And I'm sick of it. I'm sick of it. I'll be i'll be sad.
22:03.71
Nandi K
Damn. Y 'all gonna have protein water next.
22:08.14
Vance π
Nandi, I have protein water.
22:10.23
Nandi K
Where did you get it from?
22:10.65
Vance π
it It got milk in it, though. No, it's like ah it' it's like a water, but it's it's literally just Sobe.
22:13.22
Nandi K
No one.
22:17.24
Vance π
It's that lizard milk that we used to drink in the aughts.
22:18.91
Nandi K
No.
22:20.67
Vance π
It got milk in it because I drank it. I was like, what the fuck is this? And then it says it has milk.
22:24.50
Nandi K
Well, I don't want anything with milk
22:26.42
Vance π
No, you don't I don't either. um But it's in my home and I'll be drinking it because we have like ah two different sources.
22:33.59
Nandi K
oh but it I see it has 30 grams of protein.
22:36.02
Vance π
Yeah, that's why we do it.
22:35.90
Nandi K
That's pretty good. Yeah, it has a lot. yeah My protein shakes have... like 33 grams of protein each
22:41.64
Vance π
That's like as high as it gets
22:43.66
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
22:44.51
Vance π
Um... canned tuna.
22:47.30
Nandi K
Oh.
22:47.47
Vance π
She got like 50 grams per can.
22:50.70
Nandi K
Oh!
22:51.51
Vance π
48 and 49, and the like the the no-name brand one, 48, like canned tuna.
22:55.91
Nandi K
ah We have a tuna salad for lunch tomorrow.
22:58.10
Vance π
Oh, did you see my tuna larb?
23:00.27
Nandi K
No.
23:01.39
Vance π
Oh, I posted it out on my story, but I made like the Thai dish larb, except with tuna.
23:03.52
Nandi K
Don't
23:06.20
Nandi K
Oh.
23:07.31
Vance π
because I saw it online and I said you dumb bitch of course and um
23:11.35
Nandi K
Of course.
23:12.74
Vance π
larb got all that flavor
23:14.16
Nandi K
When did you make it?
23:15.38
Vance π
I met her, like, two nights ago, but, like, we...
23:16.91
Nandi K
I missed it.
23:17.13
Vance π
um like we split it. So it was essentially like 50 grams of protein and it's all veggies. And then you got the, the flavor is just like the fish sauce, the lime, the sugar, and that chili.
23:27.49
Nandi K
Yeah.
23:28.14
Vance π
So it's like. um'm I'm sure it's like less than 500 calories.
23:33.09
Nandi K
Wow.
23:35.10
Vance π
Yeah.
23:35.19
Nandi K
I see.
23:35.65
Vance π
Fire. Fire. Fire.
23:38.99
Nandi K
Anyways. anyways So other ways we're trying to you know combat. capitalism, we're gaining weight. We're not going to be thin. We're doing communal care. um I'm really thinking about tap cake taking back, excuse me, my labor power. being that you know i'm kind of tired of getting laid off And I'm tired of interviewing for jobs that I don't really want. Where they're like, tell us why. You want this job. and Tell us why we should hire you. I need money nigga.
24:14.94
Vance π
and I need, right. I need a house to live in
24:18.36
Nandi K
The bills keep coming. um but
24:20.81
Vance π
And.
24:22.36
Nandi K
I've started... Last year I started my production company. um I'm personal styling again. So like working for myself. At least it's trying. at least part-time. In some ways.
um So that I can. Not be making these corporations rich as much as possible also we've been growing Our own food. which I think like makes a huge difference. On this. doo-doo lettuce thing happen, I said marked safe. I don't even buy lettuce from the store, bitch.
24:57.21
Vance π
Right. Right.
24:59.68
Nandi K
I don't even eat lettuce.
24:59.90
Vance π
Ain't no boo boo. Ain't no boo-boo in this lettuce.
25:01.20
Nandi K
I eat Kale and broccoli greens, you peasants with your fucking lettuce. You're not even getting super greens, bitches. What are you doing?
25:12.14
Vance π
Okay, so I said Bring back physical media. So what I mean by this is just like. We don't own anything. like we I mean, we own some stuff, but we don't own anything like we used to.
25:20.72
Nandi K
Right.
25:24.12
Vance π
So like Bye, physical media. um And then I mean that like you could do a mix. And what I mean by that is like, um you know, military here, we deploy all the time when we deploy what we do. We get a ah terabyte. And we put.
25:38.45
Nandi K
Oh!
25:39.43
Vance π
Every movie we ever think we want to watch on that terabyte. And then what we do is get with our other homies that got terabytes and we exchange movies.
25:46.78
Nandi K
oh
25:47.39
Vance π
So you build your library and between everyone and their funny tastes, you end up having this really like intricate library. So.
25:54.81
Nandi K
oh
25:55.48
Vance π
I know that's kind of hard to do because we're so like dependent on digital, but we've done it before and we can do it again. so
26:02.16
Nandi K
yeah
26:02.82
Vance π
I am i need to do it my i mean I have a terabyte with movies on it, but I need to like be ah intentional about getting the new movies.
26:09.17
Nandi K
Yeah.
26:09.54
Vance π
um I... You could do this if you want. Maybe not. I don't know the legality here, but pirate. Um... ah That's all I say.
26:19.52
Vance π
ah But with that being said...
26:20.49
Nandi K
Yes. well if you can't own anything then so pirating is not a crime
26:25.89
Vance π
Period. period Also, unsubscribe. like I know it's hard to tell people to do that in the world we live in, but like these subscriptions are killing us.
26:35.29
Nandi K
Yeah. I'm about to get rid of some.
26:36.05
Vance π
Bitch. Nandi, I think you were talking about this. I don't know if it's in our group chat or online, but the... the Printer. Was that you?
26:44.46
Nandi K
Oh. I was talking about it. yeah
26:46.41
Vance π
Yes. Is that?
26:47.15
Nandi K
Yeah, the subscription printers were like...
26:49.08
Vance π
That's insane
26:49.65
Nandi K
They can stop you from using your printer.
26:52.69
Vance π
It's hardware.
26:53.40
Nandi K
If you don't use their ink.
26:53.47
Vance π
I bought it.
26:55.30
Nandi K
So when I had to buy a new printer um recently, like within the past year. I have my old printer for like... Seven, eight years I was sad when it broke. I had to search. to find a printer that did not have a subscription.
27:15.55
Vance
You found it though
27:16.55
Nandi K
I found one, but I had to search.
27:17.82
Vance π
That.
27:18.30
Nandi K
And you have to stay away from like... HP dell I have a Canon printer.
27:21.83
Vance π
Oh no, because they're the main ones.
27:24.70
Nandi K
um And Canon is not doing that. I think also. There's one other brand. That's really Epson. i think they also have more with no subscriptions but yeah it's terrible
27:34.56
Vance π
I know her.
27:38.88
Vance π
That shouldn't even be a fucking thing. Like, bitch, I own this printer. If I go and buy some ink, I own the ink now. What do you mean? And then the printer be ordering ink for you? Like, all of that shit? They're trying to put these third-party brands out of business and it's like yo this is Not.
27:54.10
Vance π
Evil.
27:54.71
Nandi K
a free market. If big companies can just... make other companies obsolete. That's absolute bullshit.
28:03.17
Vance π
Yeah, evil. Um. Yeah, pirate, unsubscribe, start.
28:07.90
Nandi K
Yeah.
28:08.30
Vance π
start stealing like i mean you can stream of course right um you can go to like the online streamers
28:13.82
Nandi K
And stream the free stuff.
28:14.22
Vance π
Oh. Right.
28:16.09
Nandi K
A lot of this stuff is free. Pluto. Tubi
28:18.76
Vance π
Tubi
28:19.86
Nandi K
Like they have a bunch of stuff and it's free.
28:21.59
Vance π
FreeVee.
28:24.28
Nandi K
Yeah.
28:24.59
Vance π
Um. Hire a booster.
28:28.32
Nandi K
Bring back boosters.
28:30.21
Vance π
Listen. I know they're still boosters.
28:32.88
Nandi K
Where are my scamming ass niggas at?
28:37.32
Nandi K
Chasing them money bags. Yeah.
28:40.82
Vance π
Oh. when I was when I was in um like when I was like 19 i i just got out of boot camp i would you know I left on my own And for us now, my best friendβs sister used to boost.
28:53.61
Nandi K
Ayy.
28:54.52
Vance π
And I would hit her up and be like, hey, I need some clothes. And she'd be like, give me $100. And then she would give me $200 in gift cards.
29:01.69
Nandi K
Clothes. Oh, and gift cards!
29:02.50
Vance π
Yeah.
29:03.30
Nandi K
Ay!
29:03.52
Vance π
I will go. Because she was stealing them and take them back and get the gift cards. So I will go.
29:07.49
Nandi K
Hey.
29:08.22
Vance π
And get that's what I would do. And then my sister was giving me her food stamps.
29:12.71
Nandi K
Wow
29:12.94
Vance π
because she had kids, but they were little kids and they were them little weird kids that don't eat. So she like had all this food stamps.
29:17.03
Nandi K
Mm-hmm.
29:18.82
Vance π
I would give her money and she would double that. So like I was.
29:22.05
Nandi K
Damn.
29:23.22
Vance π
Not making no money, but I was fine. My needs were met, but it was because of communal efforts.
29:27.28
Nandi K
Yeah. Come on, communal efforts. Yeah, I used to be a shoplifter around the same age.
29:29.89
Vance π
And I think that's... uh-huh
29:32.76
Nandi K
I used to shoplift a lot because I was poor. um I did go to jail for it, so I cut back. But...
29:40.55
Vance π
That do it.
29:40.90
Nandi K
I'm thinking about maybe you know. Getting back into it, you know, desperate times.
29:45.85
Vance π
Listen, hire a booster but back to what we were saying communal efforts like you gotta like lean into who's around you because they probably have some stuff that you can
29:52.42
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
29:55.61
Vance π
And it'll be easier for everybody.
29:55.89
Nandi K
Yeah. And then of course I want to have my farm. Where everyone comes to like live on the farm. We have a living space. Or you can build your little tiny house. We'll have some farming space. We'll have a... multimedia purpose. area that has like workspaces for creating studios stuff like that that's still my dream
30:22.91
Vance π
Yeah, I wanna... I think I think, like... For me, ideally, yeah, 11 somewhere where, like, everybody I would, like, fuck with and love is close.
30:32.36
Nandi K
Yeah.
30:32.74
Vance π
And we can, like... eat together and do stuff and then like you know you still have your space but you you can come together
30:37.66
Nandi K
Mm hmm.
30:39.44
Vance π
But everything is, like, taken care of.
30:43.03
Nandi K
Yeah.
30:43.05
Vance π
of course you put of course you uh you participate in the you know in that
30:46.16
Nandi K
Yeah, you participated in the taking care, but it's more people. to take care of it so that it doesn't feel like
30:50.15
Vance π
Yes. Yes. It's easier
30:53.16
Nandi K
Yeah, because capitalism has really stripped us of community in a really... nasty way. where everything is about. the individual but we need to Start. Like People make fun of like Hispanic people for having these multi-generational families living together, but... Y 'all, we used to do that. That used to be us.
31:17.12
Nandi K
and like Don't let these, don't let them colonize your mind.
31:21.06
Vance π
but but for real and
31:21.58
Nandi K
They're colonizing your mind.
31:24.03
Vance π
And how you think if you got a household of second generation folks, like some of these people in the house don't even speak English.
31:28.03
Nandi K
Yeah. Mm-hmm
31:29.47
Vance π
How are they? How are they making it? That's how they're making it.
31:32.55
Nandi K
Yes.
31:33.19
Vance π
And then it's your ass stay until you go get you a degree and maybe a husband or wife and then you leave.
31:38.85
Nandi K
Yes.
31:39.60
Vance π
But you can still give to the family once you leave.
31:42.22
Nandi K
Yep.
31:42.90
Vance π
and And that's how you have to move because if you don't move like that, you're cooked.
31:43.06
Nandi K
Yeah.
31:48.37
Vance π
And I know like...
31:48.51
Nandi K
If more people need to realize, that's why they're cooked, because we're not banding together enough, guys. We got to band together.
31:53.72
Vance π
In it. And the gays, I think, are like, I wouldn't say ahead of the curve, but I think we work the muscle of like the found family angle a little more.
32:00.73
Nandi K
Yeah.
32:03.54
Vance π
That's an easier thing for us to embrace because that's how we get through anyway.
32:03.70
Nandi K
For sure.
32:07.21
Vance π
So like, I think that's why we kind of.
32:07.81
Nandi K
Yeah.
32:10.05
Vance π
figure some shit out. But I think some of these people that don't hold that.
32:13.63
Nandi K
Yeah, some groups don't have the $500 that they're passing around to each other because they don't have that group of people who are doing that.
32:20.98
Vance π
Right. Because, I mean, because that's also, like, aside from having $500 to give, that's still ah also a mentality thing, right? like I got, I got at least 10 friends and they called me and said, I need $500.
32:33.40
Vance π
And I said, and I had it, they got it.
32:35.28
Nandi K
Yeah. Absolutely.
32:36.42
Vance π
Well... But on the other hand, I got about 10 friends that I said, hey, I need $500. And if y 'all got it, I got it.
32:41.78
Nandi K
Yeah!
32:43.23
Vance π
And you know, and this is like, that's...
32:43.51
Nandi K
Yeah, absolutely for sure. Yeah, because to me, that's how it feels.
32:46.48
Vance π
It.
32:49.84
Nandi K
the most good to live. I don't feel good being like... it's my money holding my dollar bills close and I might need it okay yeah you might need it so definitely give it away because you might need it
33:03.22
Vance π
Right. and and this shit is fake anyway like if money wasn't real i wouldn't get I don't, I do give a fuck about money because i must but you know what i'm saying like if ah money wasn't like i don't give a fuck about this shit like because when we did a you can't take it but also like and then what like you hoarded all your money
33:07.24
Nandi K
Right.
33:11.68
Nandi K
Yes.
33:21.50
Vance π
This shit is fake It don't matter. And then. Money also comes and goes. What I mean by that, sometimes you got a lot of money and sometimes you ain't got shit.
33:26.38
Nandi K
mm-hmm
33:29.42
Nandi K
It's the seesaw, baby.
33:31.06
Vance π
And you still got to love yourself and exist and love others.
33:34.38
Nandi K
Mhm.
33:34.25
Vance π
You still got to be here. Might as well have a good time.
33:36.32
Nandi K
You better preach. Hallelujah.
33:37.70
Vance π
It's been your last. Spend your last 20s on that Starbucks.
33:41.86
Nandi K
hey Hey don't spend it on Starbucks.
33:43.34
Vance π
Mastermind. Well, I love it. I love it, Long Beach.
33:48.27
Nandi K
oh
33:47.95
Vance π
There's ah coffee shop everywhere. So I'd never have to go to Starbucks, but.
33:52.50
Nandi K
Yeah, I make coffee at home and it's way better than Starbucks, but you know.
33:53.78
Vance π
Okay. Oh. bitch you need to be either selling your syrups or something
34:01.03
Nandi K
yeah but I feel like i might have to have like a food handler's license to do that it's like when you're doing food and stuff it's just like more
34:01.48
Vance π
Not another job.
34:09.00
Vance π
um I know. I was going to.
34:10.12
Nandi K
I know, but I would.
34:11.30
Vance π
I'm spoiled. I'm spoiled because in california they gotta um Or in LA, they passed a law that's like... it's easier because you know niggas be selling food on the corner so like it's it's uh
34:20.17
Nandi K
Yeah. Yeah.
34:23.18
Vance π
I don I think it's just like, it's just less bureaucratic to get the thing.
34:26.91
Nandi K
Mm-hmm
34:26.83
Vance π
You just say, hey, my kitchen ain't dirty. You maybe take a picture.
34:30.31
Nandi K
Mmm, yeah, sure, yeah.
34:30.08
Vance π
I'm joking, but. Send them a picture of your kitchen neighbor like that.
34:34.61
Nandi K
yeah real yeah maybe i mean some of our little like my shea butters and stuff i'm thinking about because we also been doing oils and stuff but Yeah, I mean, also I've been doing more bartering.
34:46.83
Vance π
Oh, barter.
34:46.80
Nandi K
Bartering is also like a vibe that I've been doing more often.
34:49.31
Vance π
That's... part of the communal.
34:52.22
Nandi K
Yeah, a lot more often, which is really great how we can like trade services, trade. Yeah, that's really helpful as well. Because all my friends have skills and so do I. So it's really helpful to be able to like, oh, you have this skill? Word. Let's switch.
35:09.02
Vance π
Listen, I'll come to your house and cook a meal if, you know, whatever.
35:12.02
Nandi K
Listen.
35:12.94
Vance π
Cause that's, that's what it is over here.
35:14.94
Nandi K
I shall see.
35:14.85
Vance π
Like I'll cook you a good meal. Right.
35:16.85
Nandi K
I'll show you my feet.
35:18.53
Vance π
I show a little shoulder. I show you the, uh, I let you touch the trap.
35:21.97
Nandi K
I'll unscrew a bottle cap with my toes.
35:22.25
Vance π
Let me stop.
35:27.78
Vance π
We're done here. No?
35:32.47
Nandi K
Well, I guess we are. Wow. It looks like I've unfortunately brought in, ah Iβve I've I've brought, so I can tell by that look.
35:36.84
Vance π
Woo! but
35:42.75
Nandi K
Narasi is horrified by my, uh... a bottle opening but hey it's strange times baby and sometimes you gotta to do something strange For that, Change. Amen.
35:56.22
Vance π
Capital capitalism in a nutshell Yeah.
35:58.68
Nandi K
Yeah, I'm about to be working. My toes are about to be on an aerobic workout because I might have to be unscrewing some bottle caps with them hoes on the internet.
36:05.67
Vance π
and not the dexterity.
36:07.84
Nandi K
If y 'all see it, ignore it.
36:11.28
Vance π
I'll pay. fifty
36:12.84
Nandi K
Or pay.
36:14.09
Vance π
I'll pay.
36:14.53
Nandi K
Hey.
36:14.43
Vance π
Send 20.
36:15.68
Nandi K
Pay.
36:16.03
Vance π
And took.
36:16.32
Nandi K
Send that.
36:17.43
Vance π
Uh...
36:17.41
Nandi K
Well. Yeah.
36:18.99
Vance π
Today's episode is sponsored by Big Boosters of America.
36:23.47
Nandi K
Ayy!
36:24.27
Vance π
Right?
36:24.10
Nandi K
Big boost to you.
36:25.04
Vance π
Get back to a booster today because they gave to you. You know what I'm saying? They restate freedom. to give you that $50 gift card.
36:29.25
Nandi K
Spin that shit.
36:30.45
Vance π
You know what I'm saying? You could get...
36:31.41
Nandi K
Amen. Amen.
36:32.34
Vance π
You could get three shirts at the Marshalls.
36:33.94
Nandi K
Mmm.
36:34.18
Vance π
um big Big thanks to our audio producer, Aaron Rand Freeman. I've been Vance Gowe.
36:42.32
Nandi K
Yeah, you have
36:42.31
Vance π
You can find me at Sir bleep a thot at... Threads and IG
36:47.34
Nandi K
And I'm Nandi K. You can find me on Instagram, threads, and blue sky at Nandi K-A-Y-Y-Y. We'll see y 'all.
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