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And we're going to talk about some of

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Mike Adams and Todd Pitner from the,

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And these guys are big,

big heroes of mine and a number of

others out there.

Welcome aboard, guys.

Glad to see you.

Awesome to join you, Billy.

Thank you.

Honored to be here.

Yes.

Well, we got one massive audience,

and I think they ought to know about

you guys in a big way.

It's not for lack of me talking about

you, that's for sure.

But, you know,

I was going to actually come in here.

I'll start off with Mike, of course.

I was going to come in here with

a little show and tell of all the

things that I buy from the Health Ranger,

folks.

And the reason why I'm talking about it,

when my wife and I decided, hey,

we're going to get rid of all the

junk in this house.

We're going to...

Anything that's got any weird chemicals

that we can't pronounce,

any of that stuff,

it is on the first thing smoking out

that door.

Well, piece by piece,

that can seem like a very,

very big task for people.

So I would advise you to start with

one room, replace everything in there,

and go and go and go on.

So Mike...

First thing we started with was a laundry

room,

and I talked about it when I was

on you guys' show.

But just a short list of the things

I have right here,

and I got it written down.

We got soap, dishwasher soap,

laundry soap, natto kinase, shampoo,

and a number of others.

So I would suggest people, oh,

and by the way, your toothpaste,

which is off the meat wagon,

by the way.

We got all these things out there.

But I want to talk about a lot

of solutions in this show.

So starting with that,

what made you even come up with the

notion,

because everybody has a grocery store

around every corner,

why on earth did you come up with

a bunch of products that are clean?

Well, okay.

By the way,

I'm really honored to join your show.

And we loved having you on our show.

And we also loved having your son as

a guest in studio.

And he brought me some comfrey plants,

too.

And we did a barter with him.

So he handed me over a bunch of

comfrey.

And we were loading him up with our

Health Ranger store products.

I don't know if he told you about

that.

I'm jealous.

Yeah.

So he got to walk out of here

with a bunch of good product.

But look, it's...

the background of all of this is quite

simple it's it's out of my own see

i'm i'm a very chemically sensitive person

sensitive to msg sensitive to overpowering

fragrance and artificial fragrance and

smells and so on now there's a benefit

to that i have a really acute sense

of smell

that's very useful.

I can spot hot electrical wires that are

about to catch on fire.

I can sniff it out like a dog,

man.

It's crazy.

So there are a lot of benefits, but

I found many years ago,

I could not tolerate a lot of the

products,

whether it's personal care or food or

toothpaste or shampoos or whatever.

I just couldn't handle them at all.

And so I began to formulate ultra clean

products.

And that then became this whole business.

then we started our own lab we have

a mass spec laboratory that we run nine

different mass spec instruments testing

for heavy metals and glyphosate and

atrazine and even dioxins now and

microbiology and then we had to do all

our own formulations because we couldn't

find anybody making the ultra clean

products that that i wanted to use and

that i wanted for my family and friends

as well so

i'm my own customer and for everybody out

there who doesn't want to be exposed to

phthalates and synthetic fragrances and

garbage artificial colors and all these

toxic fillers and chemicals that are put

into typical off-the-shelf products that's

what we exist for healthrangerstore.com is

where you can find us and you'll notice

a big difference

Yeah, no doubt.

And folks,

you've heard me talk about it on this

show.

I had these shoes that I spilled pig

blood and fat all over.

Yeah, that's a whole story unto itself.

And the only thing that was able to

remove any of that junk from there without

adding a bunch of weird fragrances that I

don't want to smell was this laundry

detergent.

So folks, I highly recommend it.

We're going to talk a lot about solutions

today.

And these guys have provided so much for

me.

And now we're going to kick it on

over to Todd right quick.

todd i want to i want to get

into money after a while and how people

folks i'm telling you you want to tell

everybody about this because you're going

to save you're going to learn how to

save money and also save your life with

some of the information that you're going

to get from these guys because i am

a customer in so many different ways and

i've talked about it numerous times right

off the bat todd why don't you tell

us what was decentralized tv

what was it designed?

What was it created to solve?

I know these seem like rhetorical

questions coming from me,

but there's a lot of people out there

that don't know these things.

So yeah.

Why don't you hit that one?

Well, let me tell you a quick story.

So I think it was about three and

a half years ago.

It was a Sunday evening and I get

a call out of the blue and it's

like, Hey Todd, this is Mike Adams.

And I'm like,

Who do I know that does a perfect

Mike Adams impression?

And, you know,

I have been about decentralized finance

with private crypto and I had a YouTube

channel and Mike knew of me through the

YouTube channel, but I didn't know that.

And, you know, Mike...

I think you liked how I interviewed people

and dealt with people.

And he reached out to me and shared

with me that he was going to launch

a new program,

a new series called Decentralized TV,

dedicated to escaping centralized control.

And decentralization three and a half

years ago,

not many people even knew the word

existed, frankly.

No, certainly not the importance.

And, you know,

I quickly in about a tenth of a

second said yes when he asked me to

be his co-host.

And that's where we just dove in to

the shallow end headfirst with our first

episode.

And the producers of the show are just

amazing.

They find wonderful guests like you,

Billy,

to be able to come in and educate

our audience on how to decentralize your

lives in different ways.

But that's where it all started.

And what's really,

really cool about our episodes are that

they are timeless.

um they are as relevant if you go

back to the first ten episodes and you

binge watch them they are as relevant

today as they were back then and i

really encourage people to do that

certainly we have with about a hundred and

fifty episodes now we have uh an episode

for everyone if you just scroll through

there there's going to be something that's

going to really really interest you

And the difference between, I think, Mike,

and my program now, Decentralized TV,

and it's decentralized.tv,

if somebody wants to go to it,

is that a lot of...

A lot of programs out there are really

kind of doom porny, right?

They're just stirring up fear all the

time.

But our show delivers solutions,

and we're dedicated to that.

So I owe it all to Mike's vision.

And, you know,

we kind of hit it off with our

interviewing styles.

And so far, so good, Billy.

And we are your show that you were

on recently and your son.

I hear it from I get a lot

of feedback from people,

but really some of the most popular shows

that we've had.

Well,

I can't thank you guys enough for offering

me the platform because folks,

I'm not kidding.

I mean,

I listen to these guys as there's not

an episode that comes out ever since you

started that podcast, Mike,

that I've missed.

Every single one of them.

And in fact, and that's exactly why.

this is why I want to right off

the bat,

kind of talk about solutions before we get

into some of the other things going out

there, because folks,

I'm not just listening to,

I listen to podcasts all day.

I'm a farmer.

So I have a lot of time in

which I can educate myself,

listening to audio books, uh,

listening to podcasts,

and also taking action from the stuff I

learn.

If I made a list, I mean,

I got a list of notes here for

you guys.

If I made a list of all the

things that I've learned from you guys,

and I've applied in my life and my

family has as well,

I don't think there's enough pages in this

book.

So speaking of those solutions, Mike,

one of the biggest things,

and I thought it was a genius move

right off the bat,

was when you came out with Brighteon AI.

I want to talk about that for a

second.

Because if I go to a regular AI

and I got a health concern or a

problem or something I want a solution

about,

I guarantee the information that they give

me nine out of ten times is going

to be a hundred and eighty degrees from

the advice that I get from yours.

every single time especially when it deals

with health now when it's dealing with

other things yeah i can kind of get

a straight answer out of this thing but

man you've come up with this ai and

i feel like i owe you money because

i use this thing all the time and

then also with this with this other i

can't believe somebody hadn't already

thought of it before but creating your own

books

And that has got to be,

there's a whole lot of people that do

homeschooling and stuff of that sort that

listen to this show.

I can't imagine that not being in the

wheelhouse of everybody out there.

What was your,

what was your motive for doing that?

Well, wow.

Thanks for that question.

So the two websites where people can use

these tools, and they're both free,

is brightanswers.ai.

It's a deep research AI engine that

actually has hundreds of millions of pages

of documents indexed that are searched and

cited in every answer.

And you've seen that, Billy.

And I'll tell you how we make it

free here shortly.

But the book site is brightlearn.ai.

And there you can create books for free.

And all the books that are created there

are also freely available to everybody

else.

So now there are seventy five thousand

books that are free open source books.

We've reduced the cost of knowledge to

zero through that site.

We've had over fifteen thousand authors

use it.

And.

then I built a backend engine to start

translating the more popular books into

Spanish, French, uh, and Chinese.

And we're going to add Italian and German

and Russian and Korean and Japanese also.

So we're going to cover,

I think nine languages total plus audio

books.

We now have over a thousand English audio

books.

Now granted it's an AI voice, you know,

reading the audio book,

but sometimes that's what you get on,

you know, Amazon audio books too,

is AI voice reading a book anyway.

But,

The reason that my AI engine tells the

truth about natural medicine,

natural cures, how to reverse cancer,

or some of the dangers of pharmaceuticals

and so on,

is because I trained it based on the

twenty plus years of my website,

naturalnews.com.

plus all my interviews with all the you

know naturopaths and nutritional experts

plus a massive massive collection of

information articles content from across

the world of natural medicine also food

food production so the engine is extremely

well informed on home gardening and and

dealing with pests in a natural fashion

and food preservation and off-grid living

And then I had a lot of big

names out there donate their entire

article set to this project, like Dr.

Mercola.

He contacted me,

sent me every article he's ever written

since two thousand five or something.

just to put into the engine.

So now it cites Mercola.

Dr. Chris Martinson of Peak Prosperity,

same thing.

He contacted me,

sent me every article he's ever written.

So that's in the engine.

So imagine all that knowledge.

And then Sayer G from GreenMedInfo.

And Ty and Charlene Bollinger from The

Truth About Cancer, same thing.

So through this,

I've collected this body of knowledge that

frankly, Google wouldn't touch, ChatGPT,

OpenAI wouldn't touch,

Anthropic wouldn't touch.

Those mainstream engines that are all

beholden to big pharma and processed food

industries and the war industries and all

that garbage, that's what they push.

But my engines will tell you the truth.

And when you actually measure what is

truthful from a real world point of view,

my engine beats every mainstream AI engine

in existence.

And you've probably seen that yourself,

Billy.

There's no comparison.

So anyway, that's the backstory.

Well, the prime reason I'm asking is,

folks, if anybody doubts what I'm saying,

go to any AI engine outside of Mike's

and ask them about the benefits of

chlorine dioxide.

You know,

saying that word got me kicked off of

YouTube for two weeks.

Barbara O'Neill brought up an element on a

periodic table that got me kicked off

another two weeks.

That's why we're on this backup channel

right now.

But our largest audience by far is the

audio platform.

The reason I'm saying that, Mike,

I got food poisoning a while ago.

You had talked about chlorine dioxide

quite a while.

And I had also talked to Dr.

Merritt a little while before then.

Go to your website.

Folks, if you doubt me,

go there and go to Mike's AI and

ask about chlorine dioxide for food

poisoning and then go to anything out

there and see what you find.

And that's just one example I can provide.

There are numerous because there was a

time where I was out there.

Okay, well,

tell me the benefits of turmeric.

Tell me the benefits of this.

Tell me the benefits of that.

I would get some BS answer over here

and then always finding myself right back

to your AI.

So, folks, I am telling you,

you have got to check these guys out

and look at the resources that they're

providing.

And the way we do it for free

is we subsidize it with our store sales.

So, you know,

we're very blessed with enough support in

our store, healthrangerstore.com,

that you're a fan of as well that

–

It allows us to go ahead and fund

these projects.

And we've spent a couple of million

dollars on the AI projects over the last

two and a half years.

I mean, yeah,

a little over a million dollars a year

so far.

But most of that's actually building the

data center to do the document processing.

It's actually not that expensive to serve

the engine.

It's more expensive to gather and clean

the knowledge and index all the knowledge.

But that's what makes it special.

That's what makes it work.

And people can go to your website and

just have a little bit of fun,

go to chat GPT or Google and ask

about the efficacy of MRNA vaccines and

see what,

then go to Mike's engine and ask about

the efficacy of MRNA vaccines.

And regarding your book engine, Mike,

one of the things that I encourage people

to think about differently is instead of

going there as a consumer,

Right.

Go in there.

And it's all about becoming a prompt

engineer.

And if you you guys think about it

this way,

you can now write the book you want

to read.

exactly right yeah you can go in and

prompt it and just literally say i would

like a book that deals with x y

and z and and just not a whole

lot of prompting mike maybe you can give

a little uh counsel on on being a

great book prompt engineer but you that is

really cool to be able to prompt it

publish it and then all of a sudden

now you have the book that you want

to read

You can literally prompt as little as one

word.

If you just put in the word permaculture,

it will create an entire permaculture book

for you.

But, of course, that's already been done,

so you probably don't need to do that.

But you could also do a fifty thousand

word prompt of great detail and it'll

process that and create that book as well.

So it's it's scalable to whatever the user

wants to do.

But this is perfectly in the whole

decentralized theme here because I can't

even tell you how many homeschool co-ops

have reached out to me asking me to

make content for their homeschool group,

which in the future, folks, I will do,

but I'm probably going to be doing it

through Mike's platform or something like

that, something that makes sense.

You want me to go out here and

do this stuff,

but the resources already exist.

Right.

We are trying,

if you are a parent and you're a

responsible parent these days,

I think the number one goal for each

parent, I really believe this,

is that you should do everything you can

to turn your kids into an autodidact.

And you have the resources out there that

currently exist,

that currently exist where, okay,

little Jimmy is interested in whatever.

Well,

you got a resource in which you can

tailor make that content for that kid.

All right, let me go back to Mike.

I'm sorry, go ahead, Mike.

I'm sorry to interrupt, but Billy,

I want to also add we've made those

books.

If you create a book there,

you can download that book and you can

actually commercially use it.

You can sell it and you don't owe

us anything.

So we have what's called Creative Commons

Attribution Licensing,

which means that any book you create there

you can sell it commercially we have

people actually earning incomes on amazon

by creating books on our engine and

selling them on kindle on amazon that's

and that's how they make money and i'm

totally okay with that right but for

homeschool you could put together like a

homeschooling package or a course and you

could have like five books as bonus items

for example

and those are our books and all you

have to do is give us credit you

just say these these are from

brightlearn.ai and that's it you don't owe

us any money you don't you don't have

to get any special permission so see i

i believe it's kind of like sharing seeds

right in a garden you want to share

seeds you want to share seeds with your

neighbors you want to have like here try

out this plant you know just like your

son did he brought comfrey in i feel

the same way about knowledge like

Allowing books to be used and given out

for free or even used commercially,

that's like spreading seeds of knowledge.

And I believe that very strongly.

And that's why we set it up that

way.

So, you know,

all your listeners can use it

commercially.

That's what I'm talking about, folks.

I wasn't lying when I said you're going

to get a whole lot of solutions over

here,

and we're not even – I'm not going

to be able to have a show long

enough to be able to get them all

out of these guys.

That's why you really need to go over

there, check out their podcast, subscribe,

buy their products the way I do.

I'm a big fan,

and I've been telling everybody in this

audience about them forever and a day.

All right,

I'm going to go back to Mike.

I'm sorry, Todd.

I'm sorry.

Man,

all you people look the same to me.

Hey, Billy, tell us a part.

I'm the one who's not wearing any pants.

Oh, okay.

No problem there.

You thought all I had was a t-shirt.

So we, we, you know, Todd,

we got to dress more appropriately.

We got,

we got to dress up for the,

you know,

the permaculture pimp daddy show here

because we just,

we just have our suit jackets on.

Look, Billy, after the show, believe me,

we're,

we're like shirtless running around the

forest, you know,

and Todd's in his food forest.

Like this is just for the show.

We just do this to interview people.

Okay, well, hey, you know,

you guys want to strip down and get

down, you know,

they can only see you from the waist

up.

Hey, I'm cool with it.

And don't think I've done it on this

show before.

There was a day when it was hot

as the blazes up in the studio and,

you know,

didn't have the AC going or anything.

And I've been known to strip all the

way down because that's how we roll around

here.

Mike, you brought up food for us.

So that brings me back to Todd.

I love doers.

I love people that don't just talk about

doing this stuff, man,

but actually get it done in a big

way.

And I understand you have a food forest

at your place.

What was the impetus for that?

And maybe describe how there's so many

people out there hitting my son up, who,

by the way, is one fantastic person.

permaculture designer.

They're hitting them up all the time,

but you got a food forest of your

own and I've seen it and it is

pretty darn impressive.

What was your motive for doing that?

Fourth interview Mike and I ever did was

with Jim Gale,

who is CEO of foodforestabundance.com and

it was a little more than three years

ago and I was so motivated by this

notion of a permaculture food forest.

I was like, man,

I have a wonderful back property.

that is just nothing but green grass right

beautiful green poisonous grass you know i

mean the jones has had nothing on me

but i he just kind of he kind

of switched my brain a little bit i'm

like whoa grow food not poison his grass

i kind of like that idea

And so I decided that I was going

to take that step.

And I'm happy to say that this last

week was the three year anniversary of my

food forest installation.

And oh my gosh,

over the last three years,

have I gotten a lesson in getting

your ass kicked, and resiliency, right?

I mean, with two hurricanes,

two major weather-modified freezes,

and another, it was like a weird,

you know,

straight-wind hurricane

uprooted all my it wasn't a hurricane but

five disasters um my food forest just got

its teeth kicked in so many times and

it was really really frustrating and

upsetting and everything but i'm telling

you i had a group out here of

videographers because i'm doing a whole

documentary on it from

The day I installed it,

we'd been doing video the whole time.

And they came out and they had their

drones and everything.

And it is so prolific right now.

And all I can say is six months

ago, Billy, after that freeze,

before I installed my DPE AgX,

which we can probably talk about,

is it looked like

Chernobyl you know after the blast and now

it is just so abundant but but I

just made the decision you know to say

why not me right and so I live

in an HOA and I will tell you

that I got just thumbs down from them

right away so instead of rolling over and

playing you know good little neighbor I

I said, screw that.

And I contacted an attorney.

And I just want to plug this because

if you are interested in a food forest

and you live in an HOA and you're

like, my HOA won't let me.

You can reach me on Telegram at Todd

Pitner, T-O-D-D-P-I-T-N-E-R,

and ask me to send you this letter,

which you can send to your HOA,

and you can just destroy them.

They cannot lawfully make you not – they

can't keep you from growing a food forest.

So that took me three months to win

the HOA battle that I did,

and then it was three years ago that

we installed it.

Oh,

can I say one other thing is I

want to let people know who install a

food forest is it may take a year

or two or maybe three, I don't know,

for it to truly kick in to be

food for your body.

But I will tell you from the second

you make the decision to install it and

you start the design process,

it is absolutely food for your soul.

Right on, man.

There's nothing like that first harvest.

And for all of you folks out there,

because I hear from you a lot that

are in these HOAs, which, you know,

I'm the permaculture pimp daddy.

So I'm calling them hoes on, you know,

activism,

because that's exactly what they are.

They're out there looking for heard one

person say, Oh, you know,

I couldn't paint my door this color,

whatever.

They're telling me, well,

I can't have chickens out here.

I can't do this.

Look,

if a guy can identify as a woman

and play sports,

your chickens can identify as bald eagles.

So tell them that and see how well

that works up against your HOA because

I'll bet money.

I've been saying this.

Well, actually,

my son came up with that idea.

If they can work there,

tell them your goats identify as dogs.

If everything can be something else,

tell them that these animals identify as

something else.

And I'll have you on the show.

I want to hear how that panned out.

So, Mike,

let me kick it on back to you.

The AI.

I mean,

everybody's talking about it right now.

And being a thirty year IBW journeyman

electrician in my former life,

I've worked at a number of these things.

In fact,

one of them not too far from you

right there.

And it was a Facebook data center that

I worked on in Texas.

And this thing was enormous.

This was one building.

And I remember them saying when I was

working on it all these years ago,

they said that had enough computing

capacity to handle all the world's

information.

Up until that time for the next hundred

years.

And that was just one of five massive

data centers that existed over there.

Now, at the time,

I was still working on my tools.

I didn't know about all the dangers.

I don't even know what the water usage

was.

And nobody was even talking about it.

Like I said, that was many moons ago.

But here we are.

And we got these massive AI data centers

going everywhere.

So who better than a AI developer to

ask these questions?

At the end of the day,

where do you see it going?

Is it centralizing power or is it

decentralizing power like so many people

are being told right now?

yeah um huge question thanks for bringing

it up and and by the way back

to your animals uh identifying uh i have

i have goats and they i have two

male goats that still have their horns and

they self-identify as domestic terrorists

there's nothing they won't eat or damage

um

But anyway, we have fun with them.

They go walking with me and then they

destroy plants along the walk.

No, they're grazing.

They're fun.

So the big trend that's actually happening

right now with AI is it's the

decentralization trend that we advocate,

Todd and I, on our show.

And that is that more and more people

are realizing they need to take AI

locally.

and ai is very useful in things like

farming agriculture permaculture design

home gardening food preservation off-grid

survival turns out i've you know i've

trained my a model ai model on all

those things and here's here's some good

news to share with you billy um before

christmas of this year

i plan to be putting out another free

open source downloadable local ai model

that is basically a quen engine that's

retrained on all of my uh health and

and food content so you'll be able to

download that and run it locally on some

pretty meager local hardware so it's kind

of like having a you call it like

the noah's ark of information

on your desk and that way if the

internet ever goes down or the power grid

goes down or or some government bans

access to these models you'll always have

that model that you can run locally and

you can ask it anything and nobody can

surveil you and nobody can censor you so

that's very valuable

But it's even valuable not just among

those of us who are sort of

sovereignty-minded.

We want to grow our own food,

make our own medicine,

and we want to have our own off-grid

money systems like gold and silver and

things like that.

But beyond that,

what's happening now is that major

corporations in America

and around the world are realizing they

need open source AI to run locally because

they don't trust the data center or the

companies that are running out of the data

centers like Anthropic or OpenAI or Google

or Meta.

And so I think that what's going to

happen here is there's a massive

overinvestment in the infrastructure of

these hyperscale data centers.

And that bubble is going to crash.

And when it does, I mean, and actually,

I think that's a good thing because these

hyperscale data centers are taking up too

much farmland, too much water.

They're making a lot of noise,

disrupting the local ecosystems,

for example.

When that crash comes,

there's going to be a lot of massive

buildings that are

are not like they're gonna be up for

auction and a lot of AI hardware up

for auction and so on.

But that crash is coming.

It doesn't mean that AI itself is going

to crash.

AI is just gonna move into a more

local and more decentralized

configuration,

which I think is good for humanities.

It's more pro-freedom that way.

So does that answer your question?

yeah it does um but what about the

fear and the concerns over the

environmental damage or if you uh listen

to people like dr jack cruz which i

know you've interviewed and you know i was

down in el salvador on two occasions

hanging out with him that the emfs coming

off these things are absolutely positively

dreadful i mean what about the

environmental impacts of these things have

you have you i know you've considered it

but uh what could you tell folks about

that

Yeah,

the environmental impacts are massive.

And I also interviewed Kristen Megan on

this,

who speaks about the low-frequency

propagation of subaudible waves.

You can't quite hear them because the

frequency is low,

but because of the low frequency,

they travel many, many miles out,

and they really disrupt wildlife and

plants and seeds and insects and

pollinators and so on.

So I really do think a lot of

this is temporary because they've

overbuilt, they've overinvested,

sadly they've managed to shift a lot of

those investments into people's pensions

that they don't even know about or

insurance policies insurance companies

have invested in this with your like

insurance money basically so there's going

to be a massive uh reckoning financially

when this crash comes but a lot of

those data centers that are being built

will be turned off

Yeah, go ahead, Todd.

I was just going to comment.

It's been like a hyperscale data center

gold rush that has happened.

And we are now entering the maybe we

didn't need

Right, to power them.

Yes.

Yeah.

Well,

and the other thing that's happening,

and Todd and I just had Zach Voorhees

on before joining you here today,

and we were talking with Zach about the

fact that these great improvements in

algorithms mean that so much more AI

compute can be done with a lot less

hardware.

And so the original calculations that

these tech companies made to build these

massive data centers,

those calculations are obsolete, really.

yeah they're not going to need all that

space and all that hardware so there's a

reckoning coming which is again i think a

good thing and if i could encourage people

uh we do a weekly show with zach

voorhees original google whistleblower and

talk about just an ai savant right he's

it and uh we do a weekly episode

with him which is just like maybe a

thirty thirty five minute update every

week

at decentralized.tv.

It is must watch.

I'm not kidding you.

If you don't want to be left behind,

you just at least need to know where

the puck is heading, right?

Not where the puck is.

And that's why all of these companies that

invested these billions of dollars in

these hyperscale centers,

they were skating to where the puck is.

But where the puck is going, guess what?

You don't need all of them.

I mean,

there's going to be just ghost towns of

hyperscale data centers that are just

going to be, you know,

massive pickleball courts, I think.

I'll tell you what, I'm still, I mean,

I can't wait to listen to the Zach

Adams effect again.

Like I said, I'm an avid listener, folks,

but...

The thing that I'm still trying to unload

right now as a scientist,

I listened to the other day that you

guys had on confirming what I've been

saying.

People call me a nut because I was

talking about transmutation and how it

happens at a soil level.

And he was on with you guys the

other day and he was talking about the

work of Louis Cravant.

this French guy years ago that basically

proved that it's absolutely happening at a

biological level.

And you guys made me feel so vindicated

when you had him on there the other

day, verifying the same things.

I was like, it's all out there, y'all.

It is out there.

So thank you so much for having the

people you have on there because they're

confronting.

And then he opened up a whole laundry

list.

Folks, this is what I'm talking about.

A party with a purpose.

This is what these guys do.

They have a party with a purpose and

you're,

Blown away by not only the guests,

but also the homework assignments.

If you're an autodidact,

you're going to walk away saying, okay,

now I got about ten more people I

got to research to kind of bolster the

argument that I've been talking about

forever and a day.

So I can't thank you enough for people

like Zach.

And I wish I could remember the English

guy you had on there.

I'm just learning so much.

Greenyer?

Was his name Greenyer?

Yes.

okay yeah i guess about the transmutation

yeah when he talked about that i mean

he knocked my junk into my watch pocket

i had to back it up and listen

all over again i'm like did he just

say that i'm like okay man let me

pack it up again so i got quite

the homework assignment to keep up with

his work but um man you guys have

some fantastic guests on there and it's

blowing my mind so um

Well, Billy, can I respond to that?

I just want to be clear with your

audience that Todd and I don't do this

and you don't do what you do for

entertainment purposes.

This is very practical.

We believe that

humanity is now seriously threatened and

that there are elements at a global level

that want to dramatically reduce the

number of people that exist on this planet

and some of the ways that that is

achieved is engineered energy scarcity

food scarcity engineered malnutrition

through processed foods you know

engineered various bio weapons and so on

and pollution and exposure to endocrine

disrupting chemicals and i mean it's a

long list

So the reason Todd and I do this

show is because we want to give people

that is intelligent,

informed people who want to live through

whatever happens,

we want to give them practical solutions.

And it turns out those practical solutions

are all orbiting around the concept of

decentralization.

You have to get, just like you know,

Billy,

when you get your food out of the

grocery store as much as possible,

you get your food that you farm or

that you're trading with other farmers and

so on.

Now your nutrition level skyrockets,

right?

You get much more nourishing food that's

going to power your brain and power your

body to a much brighter future,

much healthier future.

same thing happens with with ai we talked

about or or getting out of the medical

system growing a lot of your own medicine

and you know we've talked about things

like using a simple ultrasonic cleaner to

extract the medicine out of common herbs

that you grow right i mean for for

less than fifty bucks you can have an

herbal extraction system that's highly

highly effective and they're called

they're sold as like jewelry cleaners on

amazon you know but

you can put rosemary in there and you

can extract rosmarinic acid which is a

very potent anti-cancer and

neuroprotective medicine and all you have

to use is water or you could mix

water and alcohol which is a little bit

of a better solvent and you can get

really potent medicine well why isn't that

broadcast on every TV show or channel.

Why isn't that taught by every doctor?

Because they don't want you to know that.

They want you to be beholden to the

centralized system where you are a victim

or you're a slave to the system.

The medical system wants obedient human

slaves to just do what we say,

you know, take these pills,

take these injections, whatever.

And it turns out that's not in your

interest.

That is not in your interest.

So what we teach at decentralized.tv is

pro-human, it is pro-freedom,

and it's for people who actually want to

be the surviving remnant,

no matter what happens with the plans for

our planet.

So there you go.

Well, to that point, you know,

it was Robert O.

Becker that had basically exposed all the

way back in the fifties.

You can read his book, The Body Electric.

we knew there was in fact there was

a lady that back in the eighties got

her phd exposing that the extremely low

frequency radiation that's coming off of

power lines power lines all the way back

then was giving people cancer it was

having all these negative effects and

folks take it from me a thirty year

journeyman electrician don't do this but

you can if there are no effects then

how is it i can go under any

high voltage power line and if i put

enough copper coils

around,

I won't say exactly how to do it.

I can induce that voltage off that line

and produce a hundred and twenty volts to

run my house.

If you ask me, I know,

I know some old boys back in Oklahoma.

There's farmers.

If you see an old farm truck parked

under, shouldn't even say this,

but if you see it parked under some

power lines in the middle of a farm

field,

There's a reason for it.

And I'll bet you ten to one,

they're probably inducing a voltage off

that line and it's hidden inside that old

truck or tractor that's broken down there

and they're running their house.

Anyway,

they've known the deleterious effects

on health all the way back to the

fifties when Robert O Becker tried to make

everybody aware of it.

This is this guy that was growing back

limbs on salad, not salamanders,

but on people using some of the

information twice nominated for a Nobel

prize.

And they stuffed his work in the garbage

bin because it was basically proving that

all of this stuff out there in the

environment that we think is so wonderful

for us.

It actually isn't.

And that's what the beauty is of

decentralized TV is you're going to find

antidotes to every single thing.

Folks, I know you guys, and Todd,

let me go over to you.

I know you probably get some criticism

because if it's like me, people say, well,

you talk too much about dark things.

You don't talk about the positive things.

Well,

I do because for every one bad thing

going on in the world,

I give you at least two solutions for

everything if I have it.

How do you deal with the detractors out

there?

Because almost certainly they exist that

say, oh,

you guys are too doom and gloom.

I say you guys are in the reality

realm.

That's why I love you.

How do you deal with those people that

are out there saying, oh,

I don't want to hear all the bad

news.

I just want to hear the wonderful things

out there.

What do you say?

I don't know.

I don't think we actually get that kind

of feedback with our show.

I really don't.

I don't know what you think, Mike.

I agree with you.

Yeah, I don't hear that feedback at all.

At all, right.

Because we don't lead with feedback.

fear right we'll educate people and we

will uh shine the spotlight on certain

centralized systems and we can talk about

how let me just flip this on you

a little bit billy um tell me this

if you don't mind um you live near

ashville correct don't hold it against me

OK,

so think about all of the people in

Asheville.

If this trucker strike happens on October

first and let's fast forward two to three

weeks, the grocery stores in Asheville,

you know,

people who are dependent upon that

centralized food delivery system.

What's going to happen to them and their

families in comparison to Billy?

How are you going to be two to

three weeks after the truck stopped

shipping food in there?

Why don't you share with people how your

family will handle that?

Well,

right here atop Billy's Jungle Palace of

Love,

I guarantee you things are going to go

exactly like they did right after

Hurricane Helene.

When everybody was out there scurrying

after this and that,

waiting in long lines to go get cash

from ATMs, waiting in long,

long lines to get gas from gas stations

that didn't even have it.

I was back here and I was doing

everything I could to help out my

neighbors going out with chainsaws.

I was able to be a blessing to

people out there because I wasn't relying

on any of that stuff.

And because I've long lived this, I mean,

I've been doing this for well over twenty

five years.

So when it happened,

it was just a glitch in the radar.

You know,

we we have off grid means to power

everything that we have over here.

So it wasn't a big deal for us.

But let me tell you what's going to

happen.

To all those hoopoe-headed marchies out

there in Asheville right now, you know,

they'll stand on the side of a road

holding up signs.

Nothing will change at first.

But just like the book, one second after,

thirty-six hours they'll be beating each

other over the heads for the bought water

bottles in their hands.

Sadly, I mean, yeah,

call it gloom and doom.

I'm just talking reality.

Everybody in that town, for the most part,

is completely oblivious to what's about to

befall the United States of amnesia.

And they don't care to know.

So those are definitely not the people in

my demographic.

Those are not the people I'm reaching out

to.

I think we share a lot of the

same audience.

And I would bet a dollar to donuts,

after you guys are on here today,

all of my audience is going to gravitate

over to you guys.

That's what I love about this thing is

that we have this great exchange of ideas.

Amazing synergy.

The reason why I ask that question is

you embody decentralization.

Yes.

So you are just a case study.

And my question was about what happens

when people are dependent on centralized

food delivery versus decentralized food

production.

And if people can grasp that,

then you'll get our show.

Well, I'll tell you,

I want to go right back to you

regarding some of that, Todd,

because both of you guys,

I'll be honest with you.

I'm not saying this to brag.

I'm just saying it was a proud thing

for me to feel as if I were

the most decentralized farmer in all of

this country.

And then I was thinking, okay, well,

you know,

after I started listening and asking

critical questions about myself,

it brought me back to some of the

topics you guys talked about.

One of the areas where I was not

decentralized was certainly my money.

In so many different ways because of it,

guys.

You know, I'm like, okay, animals,

decentralized.

Health became decentralized.

It wasn't initially,

but I became that way.

But where it came to my money,

if we're looking at these things as a

three-legged stool,

it actually ought to be about more like

a twenty-legged stool.

Most people are going to say, well,

what about my money?

And that's where, because of you guys,

because of Mike,

and I went through your broker,

I think it was Treasure Island at the

time.

I think it may be somebody else.

Okay.

Took a lot of those worthless dollars

sitting in a bank.

And I bought silver back when it was

twenty three bucks an ounce.

So I'm crapping in tall cotton on that

end.

But then also, Todd, on your end,

you brought me you brought up another

thing,

but I was already on board with another

person doing this thing.

And that's your I'm not sure how

comfortable you are talking about it.

But OK, well,

there's a whole lot of people out there

that are doing jobs they hate.

They're out there like I used to be

when I was making a lot of money

as an industrial electrician.

Essentially,

most of the people I worked with,

when you get down to brass tacks,

they're playing hide and seek for three

grand a week.

They're doing enough to keep from getting

fired.

And, you know,

it works that way on both ends.

But you have a way for a person

to keep a whole lot more of that

money into their pocket and

Why don't we talk about that?

I know we're coming to the shady end

of this show,

but there was no way I was not

going to talk about money and how

important you guys have been for me and

almost certainly to the members in this

audience.

Why don't you talk to us about your

five, seven, five echo?

Well,

let me let me rewind to what we

discussed earlier when I made the decision

to install a food forest.

And, you know,

it hit me then decentralization is not

free.

Many times there is a investment that you

have to make to decentralize your lives.

And so I'll never forget.

And Mike,

this was before I even ever talked to

you about the unincorporated nonprofit

associations.

But it was at that point in time

to when Jim and his team installed the

food forest.

And man, I had a fence built.

They had to take out all of this

grass.

They had to dig a trench.

I had four water catchment containers.

So I did a lot.

But at the end of the day,

it was like thirty three,

thirty four thousand dollars.

And guess what?

Since eight and a half years ago,

I had a friend of mine tell me

about an unincorporated nonprofit

association.

and a California established one.

And what this does, it allows people,

if you are a W-II earner,

a ten-ninety-nine earner,

if you operate an LLC,

if you own property,

if you trade in crypto,

if you stack precious metals,

if you have children,

You got to go to my five seventy

five e dot com and begin your journey.

And that wasn't that wasn't available

three years ago.

But I just wanted to bookmark that so

people can go to it.

So they'll understand after the fact.

But when I installed that food for us,

it hit me.

You know, I had had my.

My unincorporated nonprofit association,

which allows me to keep so much more

of what I earn, protect what I have,

and decrease my personal liability.

When Nelson Rockefeller coined the phrase,

own nothing, control everything,

what do you think he's talking about?

It's entities like this.

But just like they don't teach nutrition

in med school,

they do not teach UNAs in accounting or

law school.

Nobody's going to bring this to you as

a solution today.

because it is off-grid finance.

Just trust me on this.

I've changed lots of people's lives over

the last three years.

But what I did,

and I have a video of it,

is because I had saved so much money

the previous five years,

through the tax advantages,

every time I got a,

I call it my bonus check from the

IRS, I'd take five,

ten thousand dollars and I'd put it in

my home safe, right?

The green crappy stuff.

So I have a video to where when

they told me the final bill of that

installation,

I went to my safe and I had

thirty four thousand dollars in my hand

and I have a video of me shaking

his hand and I said,

I gladly

give you this green shitty cash for this

wonderful food producing future of mine.

So because I kept more of what I

earn with this entity, right,

I had the means to be able to

invest in the food for us.

And I have the means to be able

to invest in precious metals.

in private crypto etc so i just encourage

people go to my five seventy five e

dot com click on let's go and there's

ninety minute free education video in

there uh there's a downloadable pdf and

then if people want to talk about their

own operating realities i do make myself

available for private one-on-one uh

consultations it is a hundred and fifty

dollars but

Mike is the one that shared this with,

is I used to offer the consults for

free.

Then people didn't show up.

And Mike said, there's a remedy for that,

Todd.

And then deduct it off if people move

forward with it.

And that's what I do.

And most people who have a private

consultation,

they do move forward with it.

But yeah,

decentralized finance is important.

And that is a very, very powerful tool.

But just one last thing with it.

I've helped over seven hundred and fifty

people over the last three years because

after I paid for it with the that

green shitty cash,

that's when I went to Mike and I

said, Mike,

I want to I want to start talking

about this.

And Mike did what Mike does,

and he did his own six weeks of

due diligence before giving a blessing to

be able to talk about it.

But since then,

seven hundred and fifty people.

We have a private telegram group of six

hundred and fifty people,

amazing people in there.

So I just encourage people to start your

journey to see if we can help you

keep more of what you want.

But Billy, you know, I mean,

we talk about solutions like Todd just

laid out there,

but

I don't want your audience to think that

we don't have fun too.

And I love the way that you speak,

Bill.

You're like a poet.

I mean, you're a spontaneous poet.

I love the way you speak.

And I've never heard that phrase crapping

and tall cotton before,

but that's a whole new fun one.

In fact, we were,

you might appreciate this.

Todd and I were having fun before the

show.

And have you heard about that,

the Middle Eastern port city called

Djibouti?

No,

but it sounds like a country I want

to go to.

Yeah, it's called Djibouti.

So, Todd,

you want to hit me with that question?

Yeah, Mike,

I want you to use the Middle Eastern

city Djibouti in a sentence.

Okay, you ready, Billy?

Okay, I'll do it after you.

Go ahead.

Okay.

What you going to do with Djibouti?

So that's my take.

See, that's my...

I don't mean any offense to people who

live there,

but when you have a city that ends

with booty...

You got to have fun with that.

You know what I'm saying?

You know,

it's funny that you bring that up and

my wife's going to be pissed because I

said this.

I mean, have you ever seen her?

She's got more curves than a goat pass.

I mean,

she is built and she is in all

kinds of good shape.

And I said, honey, you know,

my favorite country.

And of course,

she looks at me and I guarantee she's

turning blue down there right now because

I just told you guys this.

But anyway, yeah,

I kind of have my version of it.

Man, I swear,

I think we were all separated at birth,

man.

I think so.

Yeah, I think your producer who said,

yeah,

I found somebody as crazy as you guys.

That's why, folks, I'm telling you,

you have got to listen to their podcast.

I mean,

you're going to learn so much in terms

of money and everything else.

But as we come to a close here,

Mike,

I got a couple more questions if we

can swing in here.

But every single Bitcoin maxi that's out

there.

It's like everybody in the preparedness

field,

when I used to run in those circles,

they had half of everything.

Essentially,

it was like they got peanut butter,

no jelly.

Ham, no burger.

They got money, no guns.

They got guns, no food.

They got half of everything out there.

I have yet to find anybody in any

kind of crypto out there who...

does anything but that i'm like okay you

got crypto and if i were a real

sleazy kind of person when something jumps

off or let's say like todd was talking

about this trucker strikes turns into who

knows what maybe mad max here you're going

to wind out there in a very very

bad way because all the crypto people

don't have food you guys see this thing

differently you got you got all of it

together from what i can tell um

I want to go back to the money

thing to a certain extent.

I don't even know where I was going

with that,

but I want to ask you about the

silver.

Because of both of you guys,

I feel like I got the best of

both worlds when it comes to

decentralization of my money.

Why would anybody consider silver or gold

or platinum or whatever they might be into

out there when all the Bitcoin maxis are

saying all you need is Bitcoin?

Well, yeah.

So gold and silver...

Did we build Bitcoin?

I can't remember.

Gold and silver, I mean,

gold is mentioned hundreds of times in the

Old Testament.

It's been around longer than any current

human civilization or nation.

And it's immutable.

It's on the table of elements, right?

And you can touch it.

And you don't need a password to touch

your gold.

You don't need to log in.

And it doesn't require an internet to

function with a consensus distributed

ledger blockchain.

So Bitcoin has its place,

although I'm an advocate of privacy coins

much more than the open ledger of Bitcoin.

I'm a fan of Monero, for example.

But gold and silver will always be here.

They will always have value because of the

physics of it.

Silver, in particular,

has all these industrial value.

It's more of an industrial metal than a

monetary metal,

but it's been used historically for trade

and barter as well.

i say if people ask me today like

what would you buy to get out of

dollars i would say crypto gold and silver

like that that's i think that's the the

trifecta right there crypto gold and

silver and and what crypto you know todd

could give you five hours on that answer

you know right there's a lot of things

to consider but the simple version is you

know private crypto if you don't want

government spying on you that's that's the

simple answer

Right on.

Before I get into the last question here,

I got a little joke of my own.

Okay, Mike, Todd,

what do you think President Donald Trump's

favorite state is?

Can you guess what his favorite state

might be?

State of confusion?

There's that.

I'm going to say Idaho for Israel.

Idaho.

Because Idaho for Israel.

Anyway, I had to do it.

Apologies to the Idahoans.

Yes.

That's the correct term.

Not Idaho's, by the way.

Idahoans.

I want to get it all in there.

I want to share something with you guys.

You see that there.

A hundred dollar bill.

Okay.

So I just want to share with you

what I think I help teach people.

Okay.

Is when you keep more of you,

what you earn,

you're stretching your money, right?

Absolutely.

And, and I just want to.

Whoa.

Tell you guys, this is,

this is what's possible when you

decentralize your life.

I haven't seen paper that big since I

used to use a roadmap.

Mike,

I was going to use that in our

next after party.

I want to share one quick story because

when people watch decentralized TV,

we interview our guests and then we take

a break.

We say goodbye to the guests and then

Mike come back for what we call the

after party.

where we talk about the guest,

we talk about the interview,

and we just kind of go off the

rails.

And I know this gentleman won't mind me

saying this, but I don't know,

have you heard of Billy Gibbons?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Guitarist for ZZ Top.

ZZ Top.

ZZ Top.

Well, can you imagine one day,

it's a Saturday morning,

and I see that I have a consultation,

a private consultation with Billy Gibbons,

nine thirty a.m.

Saturday morning.

And could you imagine launching a Zoom

call and seeing ZZ Top right there?

And that's exactly what happened.

He loves him some Mike Adams.

And he told me, whenever when I'm touring,

he said, I never miss a show.

And then he got introduced to

decentralized TV.

And this was so funny because he said

right at the beginning, he goes, Todd,

I need to share something with you.

And you may think way less of me,

but when I watch decentralized TV,

I just go right to the after party.

And he said, of course,

I go and watch the guest afterwards.

But I just thought it was funny.

So if ZZ Top digs our after parties,

man, I invite you all.

Come join us, please.

Well, I mean,

this has been a joy to have you

guys on here.

Yeah, big,

big ZZ Top fan back in the day.

Man, I'd sure love to meet Billy Gibbons.

And the song La Grange was written about

the town right down the road from where

I am right now.

What a great song.

Oh, yeah.

That's about LaGrange, Texas.

That was a jam back in the day.

I've had you guys for, I'm sorry,

go ahead, Todd.

It still is.

He's seventy five years old and he still

tours like crazy.

Yep.

Yeah, those guys.

But he hasn't been to Djibouti yet.

No.

Oh, thanks, Mike.

Still on the list.

You know, thanks a whole lot, Mike,

because now I'm about to eat large

quantities of caca right now because I

told everybody, and now she's like,

everybody's going to be looking at my

Djibouti.

i can hear it right now um she

doesn't have dia booties about diabetes we

did a song called dia booties yeah so

but that yeah that won't affect you

because you're eating all homegrown

healthy food no processed garbage out

there

No, I mean, that's really – honestly,

there's so much I got to be thankful

for, I mean,

especially from coming across.

I mean,

there's a lot of – you know,

there's entertainment podcasts out there,

but I love how you guys are a

party with a purpose.

I mean, you make it fun.

Even when you deliver some awful news,

you still find a way to be able

to –

package it in such a way, I think,

that makes it a little more digestible.

Maybe that's the reason why I try to

do the same thing,

but maybe to a lesser extent than you

guys.

It's just so many people are just not

wanting to hear a lot of this information.

But, folks,

I don't care whether you're homeschoolers

out there.

I don't care if you are...

If you're living in a one-room apartment,

we've talked about it before,

you can grow food everywhere.

You can get decentralized everywhere to

the extent that you're able.

And these guys are an absolute must.

And your podcast listening in what you're

buying, I mean, it is so,

so valuable out there.

And I put my money where my mouth

is, whether it's buying the silver,

whether it's what we do with our tax

structures,

or whether it's the products I buy.

We just had this

scandal the other day where we found out

that all these companies that i was buying

from where they weren't actually using

olive oil i mean avocado oil oh yeah

they're using a bunch of garbage out there

and the only one to even address that

was the guy from azure standard who wasn't

even mixed up in the scandal not one

of those companies provided a statement

except for mark sisson and basically his

statement was we didn't do it um that

was the avocado oil scandal right

Absolutely.

And that's what I love about the stuff

you sell is that if it ain't legit,

you're going to send it on the first

thing smoking back to where it came from.

Yeah, we've done that.

Provide that kind of assurance to me for

somebody who is trying to escape.

I mean, like Steve Quayle always says,

shot in the arm, shot in the head.

Either way, you're going to wind up dead.

When they're dropping this stuff from the

sky, it's in your water,

it's in the air you breathe.

I need to do everything possible to

eliminate the things I can do,

and that's a lot of where your products

come in.

So, Mike, if you would,

tell everybody anything you want,

but tell them where they can find you,

where they can find your products,

where they can find your AI,

all that stuff,

and then we'll kick it on over to

Todd.

Okay.

Well, real simple.

The free AI engines are brightanswers.ai

and brightlearn.ai.

And if you want to follow my articles,

I'm at naturalnews.com.

A couple articles every day.

And then my videos,

in addition to decentralized.tv,

I'm at brightvideos.com.

So that's how you can find me.

And of course,

But I strongly encourage you to watch our

show, Decentralize.TV.

Every episode, like Todd said,

is evergreen.

And they're always informative and they

will continue to be that way.

So thank you, Billy.

Right on.

Todd, where can they find you?

And, you know,

you got to put a capper on that

five, seven, five.

Yeah, well, first of all,

I want to tell people that if I'm

you and I want to, you know,

Mike is so prolific with his content

creation.

I really highly encourage people to go to

Telegram and follow Mike.

Real Health Ranger.

That is where that is this repository of

everything that he creates.

It's kind of a one go-to place.

And then you can click links that'll take

it to everything.

That's my cheat sheet anyway, guys.

The other, of course, decentralized.tv.

And then my five seventy five e dot

com is where you can begin just becoming

educated about this relatively

undiscovered, very,

very powerful technology.

decentralized finance structure.

Man, that's what I'm talking about.

I want to thank these guys for coming

on today,

and I want to thank everybody for checking

us out.

You know, we live,

and I've been saying this as of late,

you know, at the beginning of Richard III,

Shakespeare writes,

now is the winter of our discontent.

Well, look at where we're going, folks.

I think we're heading there.

These guys got solutions.

So go check them out.

Until next time, stay alert, stay live.

Listen to the earth, they've got us.

The last seeds of the shame.

Watch the world spin.

From the smallest sprout,

the harmony begins.

In the cycle of life.