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Welcome to episode four ninety seven of

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Well, happy Monday to everybody out there.

I guess we still have an earth,

which as a farmer,

I think I'm going to need one.

Despite the way everybody seems to be

behaving in this world.

How you doing, son?

Oh, pretty good.

I found out today was Columbus Day,

and my first thought was, man,

talk about one holiday I could not care

less about.

No.

Yeah, I'll circle back to that,

so remind me.

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Yeah.

Let me guess.

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Yeah, I mean,

your mom's giving this dog a seven hundred

dollar blanket.

And then next thing you know, man,

if that thing your mom did,

I walk in there to go take a

shower last night.

I see this dog.

Got the grounding mat underneath her.

Got her bed on top.

Got one of those, oh,

what do you call that thing?

Man, I haven't talked about it.

EMF rocks.

Got one of them next to her.

And she's just kind of repurposed every

healing device.

You know,

even put her on the Tesla machine over

here.

I'm expecting to find this dog on the

EMF or the PEMF mat.

I mean, here we go.

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Start speaking.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Every dog your mom has always thinks it's

human.

It doesn't even want to associate with

other dogs.

And you know that to be true.

All right.

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All right,

so let's just jump into this farm news.

So what did I say to remind me

about the – Columbus Day.

Yeah, Columbus Day.

Like America needed discovering in the

first place.

There ain't – I mean, man,

I could sit here and do a front

porch talk on that.

I could riff right now of all the

things that we've been told about Columbus

and what he did or what he didn't

do and all these other things.

that America supposedly needed

discovering.

Even Louis L'Amour wrote about it in The

Walking Drum.

It's the most absurd thing in the world.

Yeah,

it needed discovering for the people in

Europe, but there's a whole lot of others.

In fact,

if you look into some of our occulted

past, son, there's a whole... Folks,

there's a giant reason why you are not

allowed to go through most of the Grand

Canyon.

On top of what you were just saying

there,

it was needed discovering by most of

Europe.

there was a lot of large section of

Europe that already knew about this.

There's a reason Christopher Columbus also

like Northern Africa.

There's a reason he had a Moorish

navigator to bring him.

And then he had like a,

there were some other people that were

involved as well that all like showed that

he knew exactly where he was going.

He didn't accidentally find,

he wasn't looking for a roundabout way to

go to India or anything like that.

And then you have like Viking ruins here

in the United States as well.

They were making it over here.

There's one now,

whether or not it's legit, I don't know,

but it's over in Hevener, Oklahoma,

spelled Heavener.

And as soon as you say Heavener in

Hevener, they'll correct you.

and tell you it's evener.

But they have like this Viking rune set

stuff up on this rock,

up on top of this mountain in Oklahoma.

Again, whether or not it's legit,

I don't know, but it's possible.

It's for sure possible.

Yeah,

there's a whole lot of things about this

whole thing,

about all of our history that's just

absolutely absurd.

But this whole thing, I mean,

with Columbus and Columbus Day, I'm like,

man,

there is not a piece of our history

that we've been officially told that I

can't dismantle.

That's the place where I am right now.

There's not one part of it.

From the founding fathers all the way

forward,

there is not one part of it I

can't dismantle.

absolutely dismantle.

But this is what we're teaching kids in

school and we're teaching them the same

nonsense over and over again.

But yeah, Columbus Day, I mean, why not,

man?

I mean, we got Flag Day.

What does that even stand for anymore?

I mean,

we got all these different holidays that

most people are completely unaware of or

have no idea what it's all about.

And I think some people have kind of

hijacked

Columbus Day, I guess they call it,

you know,

stepping on the indigenous people's day or

whatever.

I don't I don't know.

And folks, I'm part indigenous.

OK, so from the Minkwood tribe,

if anybody wants to know.

And if you get too stupid about it,

I'll show you that I might be from

the Slapahoe tribe as well.

Anyway.

Yeah.

So I'll just jump on to the farm

news here.

Make sure you water your compost, folks.

I don't know where you are right now

in the sound of my voice right now,

but where I am...

We got rain,

and how much of it actually soaked in

is to be determined.

I'm not so sure about that.

We did have quite a bit because the

wheelbarrow filled up,

and I had it sitting out.

So we'll see how much of it actually

made it into the ground.

We'll see.

Very little rain for the most part,

though,

based on what they were telling us.

Nobody got anywhere near the rainfall

amounts that we're talking about,

at least not where we are.

Other things like getting wood.

I am so far behind on that, folks,

because I was involved with too many

things I probably shouldn't have been

involved with.

I'm way behind on snatching up wood,

so I think we're going to rent a

UTV.

And, folks,

this is kind of going on the heels

of that front porch talk I did where

–

It blows my mind,

and it's all my buddies in Oklahoma and

Texas and even parts of Kansas that seem

to fall into this trap.

They live in flat ground,

and you can get by just perfectly fine

with a truck,

but you can't impress your neighbors

unless you've got a pimped-out UTV,

and that's what a lot of people are

doing.

So here's something to consider.

If you need one like I do,

go rent it for a week or a

month or whatever you might need.

And that way I don't have the payment.

I don't have the upkeep.

I don't have any of that stuff.

And I definitely don't have the payment

because I know guys out here that are

spending.

Son,

we got two trucks sitting out there and

I know people that got UTVs that cost

more than both of them.

Oh, yeah.

You got to be kidding me.

And they break them within a week.

Yeah, and they don't even need them.

That's the thing that blows my mind.

You're sitting here.

You got it because you want to –

I mean, good night, man.

It just blows my mind.

So anyway,

that's how we go about doing it.

So I'm probably going to have to rent

one, go out here,

get all this wood that William chopped up

in there.

It's still out in the woods.

So I need to go get it,

and I probably ought to get it sooner

rather than later because if I know

anything about the powers it shouldn't be

–

they'll be dropping another, you know,

we got this heat wave coming in right

now.

And then here before you know it,

it'll go down.

It'll go cold.

If they'll do what they've been doing for

the last several years,

we'll get a cold snap,

and then it'll warm up.

Everything will start budding out,

and then bam, cold all over again.

And that's the way we've been coming out

of spring as well,

so I'm sure everybody else has been

dealing with that.

All right,

so some other things going on around here.

This is more like Asheville news,

but it's a big deal.

They closed down Rhubarb and the Roo.

Oh, okay.

yeah in that business or what well the

official story the way it came out there

was a couple of different stories and

folks if you let me go ahead and

because we're doing inside baseball let me

tell everybody rue is like it was the

breakfast it was one of the premier mere

breakfast place that places to go in

ashville the biscuits were absolutely

fantastic everything

Yeah,

everything they had on the menu was really

quite good.

Especially their pastrami.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that pastrami was excellent, too.

I only had that once.

So one thing I was disappointed about is

that they got rid of the grits off

the menu.

So they used to have it when Stephanie

ran that place,

but I don't know what happened.

I'm like, grits, man, you're in the South,

dude.

You got to have grits on the menu.

And the grits were excellent.

But anyway, they got rid of those.

Looks like I'll be making my own grits.

And then right around the corner,

it was both owned by the same guy,

a guy named John Fleer,

a restaurateur who really knew his way

around the restaurant business.

Rhubarb was one of those stick your pinky

up kind of places.

I kind of wondered if it was going

to be going out of sorts because every

time you go by there,

you'd see a whole...

I mean, man,

I saw bums stacked up like cordwood out

in front of that place.

Nobody that wants to go to a fine

dining place is going to have to step

over homeless people to get inside of it,

okay?

So I'm blaming part of that on the

city.

But anyway,

I think what it came down to

Folks are broke.

Let's just be honest.

Everybody is having a hard time right now.

And getting out of the room when me

and your mom went there last weekend, no,

it was during the week.

We were there on a Wednesday.

And getting out of that place for two

biscuits.

And folks, when I say biscuits,

I'm talking like bacon, egg,

and cheese or whatever you want on it.

And a drink,

like some bottled water or something was,

I mean,

you're going to pay thirty bucks getting

out of that place.

And, but it's, you know,

we don't eat there every day,

but if I'm going to eat something,

I become something of a food snob, man.

I'm not trying to eat some garbage.

But anyway,

the point being is you have two of

the best places that were around here and

they just shut the doors because honestly,

here we are in times where the leaves

are falling and this place is like a

flipping ghost town.

And the people that do come,

according to my friend Stephanie,

who runs another bakery,

most people are getting Airbnbs and

they're doing their own cooking.

So they're not actually going to the

restaurants.

That's the kind of mess we're in right

now,

thanks to this administration and the ones

previous to it.

So it's, look,

they're all equally worthless to me.

Well, anyway, they went out of business.

And I think that's, I told your mom,

I think that's the...

I think that's going to be the watershed

moment for a lot of other businesses

around here.

Because that guy's been a restaurateur for

a long, long time,

has opened a whole lot of places,

and if he can't stay in business,

And I know a lot of others that

are just on the edge of going out.

Well, on the rhubarb part,

the chef that was there,

I think she competed.

Was it Top Chef a few times or

something like that?

It was a well-known restaurant,

not just in Asheville,

but kind of in the United States by

people who pay attention to that stuff.

They knew about the rhubarb.

It was definitely one of them highfalutin

kind of places,

but nobody wants to step over bums going

into a place,

and nobody wants to spend money when

you're... I mean,

let's just be honest here.

How many people can afford to eat out

when they're making a payment like I was

talking about with the...

on that front porch talk when they're

making a payment for a UTV that they

got just to impress.

Or they get his and hers.

Or they go out and buy a boat

that you only use twice a year.

Or buy a fifth wheel that you take

out once or twice a year.

Folks, I know these people.

And they wonder why they're broke.

Well,

and those are the people that definitely,

you know...

Can't go out to eat anymore,

so they got to stay at home.

So things are getting crazier,

and it's going to keep getting crazier.

All right,

so we got a bunch of honey.

My daughter-in-law will probably be happy

about that.

So we got a bunch of honey.

I got to process that.

And your granddaughter, Dad.

Well,

I didn't know y'all were giving her honey.

Oh, yeah.

yeah so my little grandbaby she's going to

be digging into it too i ought to

save a couple of frames and let her

help me do it i think i might

do that um anyway um diesel deal with

russia okay i'm not gonna spend a whole

lot of time on this every time i

say that i end up doing it but

i'm not look if everything is as they

tell us it is why on earth would

Vladdy the Pimp Daddy Putin,

even think about selling us any kind of

diesel.

Why would he do that?

Obviously,

unless he was getting something very big

out of the deal.

If they weren't all in it, folks,

just think about this.

During COVID,

every nation in the world was in lockstep.

Because of that,

my friend Bobby ended up becoming a

Christian over it.

Because he knew that only the darkest

forces in the world can make every single

company come together like that.

So just kind of think about it.

Everything we're seeing over there is

probably smoke and mirrors.

I ain't saying some real damage ain't

happening.

But I'm just saying put very little stock

in what you're hearing from everything

that

All the way around.

Just realize that if you can't see it

with your own two eyes,

there is nothing they can't lie about

these days.

So in my view,

they're all in it together.

And I've talked about World War I and

how that's exactly how that whole war,

if you know the real history about it,

is that they knew all the people in

Europe were becoming uppity,

so they had to trim the fat a

little bit, meaning all the young men.

which is exactly why they killed millions

in both world wars and why they're almost

certainly looking to do the same here.

So the worst thing you could tell your

kid right now is join the army.

So with that said,

let me kick it on over to you,

son.

Yeah.

Hey dad,

when was the last time that the entire

world was, uh,

of the same accord that the same mindset

and spoke the same language,

which we can basically do now.

Two times.

Well, no, modern time.

No, in modern time, son,

I'm just going to,

I know where you're going,

but I'm going to say it in a

modern case.

The only place where the entire world is

in lockstep is in space and in Antarctica.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, I took it a different way.

I know where you're going, but go ahead.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, that definitely applies, too.

Am I wrong?

Am I wrong?

Oh, you're right.

Space in Antarctica.

In Antarctica.

That's the only time where we have every

nation in lockstep.

And if you do your work,

if you do your little due diligence on

both those places,

you may find out that they're not what

they tell you they are.

Yeah,

I was going to bring up the Tower

of Babel.

That's what I was going to bring up.

But yeah,

that was a good point with the space

in Antarctica.

I forgot about that.

So on your point with like people being

broke and not going out,

I just got back like today.

I got back from Alabama.

I did a consultation out in Alabama.

And to my surprise,

there were actually it took me a different

route instead of taking forty all the way

through Tennessee and then dropping south

to Alabama.

I took I think it was.

interstate twenty or twenty two or

something like that but it was just like

parallel but lower than forty um and to

my surprise there were two buckies on the

way to alabama which i don't like buckies

for the same reason everybody else likes

buckies i like buckies because it is the

cleanest bathroom you could possibly find

on the road it's clean every single time

it's private

There's no nonsense.

You have to deal with... Typically,

you have to deal with crowds.

Now, this time,

I found out that there's like...

I think they're brand new Buc-ee's.

Because I've been in this area before.

I've driven out to...

I did a consultation in Tupelo,

Mississippi before.

Took the same route before.

And there were not Buc-ee's on the way

out there.

So,

I think both these Buc-ee's are fairly

new.

They were...

ghost towns,

which you can go to Bucky's at,

you can go to Bucky's at three in

the morning.

You can go to Bucky's at six PM.

You can go to Bucky's at eight AM.

Both these Bucky's were ghost towns.

Like,

and I had gone going in to Alabama.

I stopped at both Bucky's going into

Alabama.

There were ghost towns and I stopped at

both Bucky's coming out of Alabama and

there were ghost towns.

Um, and I don't think both,

I think one was in Alabama and I

think one was in Mississippi.

Um,

kind of blurs together after you run

through a trip like that.

But yeah, Buc-ee's were ghost towns,

which people who live...

Anybody who's ever been to a Buc-ee's,

have you ever seen one that's been empty?

You could get around fairly easily in that

Buc-ee's.

There was nobody in the bathrooms.

There was nobody blocking your path or

anything like that.

I've gone to Buc-ee's...

Like three o'clock in the morning before,

like when we were doing that clean

disaster relief and stuff like that,

I've been in there like three o'clock in

the morning before and it looked exactly

as the same as it did like six

p.m.

And that one was in Sevierville.

But yeah,

that that really stood out that like

nobody is at Bucky's.

That's crazy.

And Bucky's in the area in that little,

those exits areas over there,

they were the ones that had the deeper

gas out of like all the other truck

stops and gas stations in the area.

So that would be even more of an

incentive for people to go to that

Bucky's.

So that, that definitely stood out.

Yeah.

And then on the way to Alabama,

I was kind of keeping an eye on

the storm.

I was keeping an eye on the storm

before going to Alabama and then on my

way to Alabama and everything.

And yeah,

We were completely duped when it came to

this hurricane.

It took multiple days for the hurricane

over water where there's very little

resistance.

It took multiple days for it to finally

reach the coast.

And then once it hit the coast,

it rocketed north

And it hit, like,

my parents in record time way faster than

it took.

Like,

it took it longer for it to leave

the water and hit the coast,

even though it wasn't far off the coast

for, like, a couple of days.

It wasn't very far off the coast.

It took forever for it to hit the

coast.

And then in just a fraction of the

time,

it traveled across the land with

resistance all the way up past North

Carolina in, like, record time.

And then everybody that I had seen –

They didn't get much rain from the storm.

I know you guys were predicted.

Mom was saying, I think,

nine inches or something like that.

Yeah, so nobody...

And then where I did the consultation in

Alabama, you wouldn't know.

I came there right after a hurricane went

through,

and you wouldn't even know that a

hurricane went through.

The ground was...

somewhat damp, like somewhat.

And I think the trap trampoline that they

had moved a little bit from the winds

and stuff.

But other than that,

you really wouldn't notice,

but it wasn't saturated.

There weren't any erosion areas or

anything like that.

Um, so yeah, there's that.

Uh, and then, Oh, uh,

I talked to Mike Adams people today and,

my episode,

my interview should be going out this

week.

So if you guys listen to Mike Adams,

the health Ranger, uh,

Um, yeah,

my episode should be coming out this week

and I think we might be doing some

stuff together here in the future.

So that should be, that'll be fun.

Well, cool.

You know, I got one theory on that.

The only way you clear out of Buc-ee's

is if you have a bunch of immigration

and naturalization vehicles out front to

run off all the illegals that hang out

there that just absolutely live at the

Buc-ee's.

And judging by what I've seen,

I don't believe that's the case.

No,

I think everybody's feeling it in a bad

way,

and I think everybody's doing everything

they can

you know the nfl's got to be liking

this because i'm sure a whole lot of

people are staying at home you know

they're tuning in they're watching those

things um you know it it is bad

it is really really bad and sadly it's

probably going to get worse so hang in

there folks you know it is stay alert

stay alive get whatever you need right now

because in these times i'm not saying it's

going to happen tomorrow but it will

happen this this country is slated

Like I said, I mean,

there is nothing about anything that

they're telling us that makes any sense at

all.

Not one thing.

And I believe, you know,

Culling is on the... If you doubt me,

what was COVID all about?

It was a depopulation plan.

That's exactly what it was.

Depopulation plan,

and maybe they didn't get as many as

they want, but...

They're realizing that nobody ever hung

the people for it anyway,

so why not just keep on with it?

So they're going to be looking for some

ways to thin the population.

Just make sure you're not part of it.

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so let me get into the good news

here.

Some of it may be marginal at best.

I'm calling it good news because I'm at

least making some of y'all aware of it.

Okay, common packaging plastic.

May worsen fatty liver disease,

mouse study finds.

Ain't no may about it.

They put that in there to couch the

article.

But the truth of it is,

all these microplastics, which, you know,

early on,

I thought it was just some liberal

nonsense.

But as I've examined it more and more,

folks, it's legit.

Every one of us has at least a

credit card's worth of plastic inside of

us,

and it's wreaking havoc in a big way,

and it's tough to get out.

There are ways to get it out,

but the ultra-wealthy use where Henry

Kissinger,

everybody wonders why a guy that looked

like Henry Kissinger lived to a hundred.

Well, every once in a while,

he would go over to Switzerland,

they'd take your blood out, clean it out,

And they put it right back into you.

And there are places,

there's a name for it.

I forget what the process is called.

Gary Brecka talked about it a bunch.

But, you know,

it ain't reserved for groundlings like the

rest of us.

It's only for people that are, you know,

swimming in dough right now.

So here's what I'm trying to tell you.

folks worst thing you can ever do putting

plastic in a microwave i don't care if

they say if it's microwave safe first of

all don't even use the microwave i got

one but i'm telling you what it's just

a hood ornament it ain't being used for

anything except for a clock and maybe a

faraday cage to put your phone in that's

about the only thing that thing gets used

on but anyway mixing plastic in there

Man, it's the worst thing in the world,

and they've known this forever and a day.

So stay away from that plastic wrapper,

even in the to-go boxes.

You know, you got to pick your poison,

but, you know, do the best you can.

We've done the best we could.

We do have some Tupperware that is

plastic,

but we've been changing it out for glass.

Now, it takes up a little more room,

but that's exactly what we're doing, so...

make the changes as you're able.

You don't have to do it all overnight.

So here's another one here.

I found this interesting.

Study links lower grip strength to higher

depression risks.

I remember going into my... Well,

here's why I'm bringing it up, son.

I went to my chiropractor a couple of

years ago,

and I was having problems with everything

on my left side.

Not everything,

but it was like every problem I had

was on my left side.

And

Actually,

the first chiropractor I ever went to in

Kentucky

He had me do the same thing.

One side, man, he was like, dude,

that thing is off the charts.

And then the other side,

it was like a little kid was doing

it.

So I guess it gave him some kind

of indication of what was out of whack.

Before it was all said and done,

I was able to kind of get equal

pressure on both of them.

So anyway, yeah,

that's another thing that Dr.

Jack Cruz talks about.

When you shake his hand, man,

it feels like you're just squeezing.

He's a big fella, but honestly,

he's got a serious grip on him too.

But anyway, the better your grip,

the better everything is for you.

So, folks, be thinking about that.

So, you were going to say something?

Yeah, I want to know who, like,

what was the thought process in conducting

this study?

Like, how did they come up with the,

like, you know,

we should test out these people's grip

strength and see if it correlates with

depression or not.

I wonder where that even came from.

Look at every spending bill that goes

through the government.

Look at every spending bill.

I mean,

people were laughing because like a

million bucks was given to research shrimp

on a treadmill.

I kid you not.

Or, you know,

there's a lot of these things.

I mean, it's just pork barrel nonsense.

And there's no accountability.

And it's just garbage.

But, yeah, I mean, at least, you know,

some people like you,

I don't know who came up and said,

hey, I got an idea.

You know,

at least this one's better than a shrimp

on a treadmill kind of thing.

All right.

So the last one here,

study finds regular meat intake associated

with lower frailty odds in adults over

sixty.

so reason why i brought this up is

uh i remember back when we were in

the army i was in we were in

kuwait at the time and we were playing

soccer with the kuwaitis man i know

nothing about soccer ain't no good at it

we had a couple of guys i remember

this lieutenant uh maharg i think he's a

lieutenant colonel now in the reserves or

something like that anyway um

He broke his leg and barely touched this

guy.

He didn't do it on purpose.

He was never that kind of guy,

but he broke the leg.

I mean,

these guys were dropping like flies, man.

And we come to find out, I mean,

what they told us was,

is that these guys never eat any protein.

All they eat is like lentils and,

you know,

whatever they can get their hands on.

And I'm like, man, these are soldiers.

And they were so frail.

These soldiers they had there.

I remember I,

I remember just feeling so doggone sorry

for them because you could tell that they

looked, just on the space of them, man,

they were like hangers, man.

Their uniforms were falling off of them.

And they were very,

very polite and very kind.

Despite what everybody wants to tell you

about the folks in the Middle East,

the ones I've come across,

all of them were just very,

very sweet and kind people.

But these guys were very, very frail.

Son,

I am not exaggerating to say that one

American soldier in a hand-to-hand combat

could have taken out probably ten of those

guys.

And I'm not exaggerating.

I mean, that's how frail they were.

But for all you people that say, oh,

I don't eat meat or I don't like

protein or whatever else,

I'm just going to go on an all-carb

diet.

Well, let that be.

This is why I brought that article up.

Yeah.

But, son,

you had some experience also with people

that were vegans and stuff like that.

What was your experience with that?

Yeah.

I, for some reason,

have had a lot of experience with

combating vegans or just, like,

being around vegans.

And I don't mean, like...

I don't personally care if you're vegan or

vegetarian or whatever.

You can do whatever it is you want.

Just don't try to force it on other

people.

But...

the militant vegans are the ones that are,

that'll drive you crazy.

And, uh, yeah, they were at Jeff Lawton's.

There was most of the other people besides

me were like vegetarian or vegan.

Um, and they just got tired like easily.

There was one guy I'll say he was

a army.

He was a Australian army veteran.

He transitioned into vegetarian.

Um,

And he was strong,

but I think he was kind of an

anomaly.

He also built muscle using meat first and

then transitioned into vegetarian.

And his reasoning didn't really make any

sense.

I even tried vegetarian just to see how

it felt.

Because I figured if I was going to

talk crap on it,

I at least needed to try it.

It was the worst.

I've never eaten more in my life trying

to just keep up with energy.

And it was the crappiest I felt, too.

And then I also did...

To your point,

there was a couple I did a consultation

for quite a while back.

They were vegans.

The one guy who was doing all of

the... It was a couple.

The guy that was doing all of the

physical work around the farm...

He was not built to be a vegan

by any means.

And he didn't grow up like this was

something that was imposed on him.

And anytime he could work,

this was this is what his work schedule

consisted of.

He could work thirty minutes for one day

and then would need two days to recover.

from that thirty minute workout that he or

not even workout that thirty minutes of

work that he did outside uh and just

so that way he wouldn't like if he

didn't follow that and if he worked for

longer then he was laid up for even

longer so

Yeah, I just don't do it, y'all.

I think it was best explained by Jeff

Lawton.

He's like,

we were standing out in his kitchen

garden.

He's like, if you look around,

you see a mixture of plants and animals.

He's like,

I think we should eat a mixture of

both plants and animals.

And I think that's a very simple and

effective way to approach food.

Well,

show me a single tribe in history that

has ever become vegan and isn't extinct.

There's nothing even close to it.

I didn't mean to go on about vegans

and stuff here.

But yeah, folks,

when you're leaving out the protein and

stuff like that,

or you're taking in the kinds of protein

and the kinds of fats you are,

you are eating a diet that is honestly,

going back to that plastic conversation,

there's a lot of this stuff that is

completely derivative of plastics and

things like it.

But you think you're doing...

the world a favor, and well, sadly,

you're not.

And on that note, Dad,

back to vegans real quick,

it's not better for,

by no means is it better for the

environment, because there's people,

there's a group of people that'll get into

being a vegan because they think it's more

eco-conscious or whatever, and it's not.

I can eat

I mean,

there's a bunch of different ways we could

go with this argument,

but it requires more space, more land.

And I'm talking about using regenerative

farming methods.

I'm not comparing commercial methods or

anything like that,

but it takes more space and more land

to produce a vegan diet than it does

to provide an omnivore diet.

And that's if you're growing all of your

own food or you're sourcing it locally to

you.

Most vegans and vegetarians are not doing

that.

The food mileage on vegan and vegetarian

diets is, if I had to guess,

is probably quite a bit higher than those

that eat like an omnivorous diet.

So yeah,

in no way is it better than an

omnivore diet or even a carnivore diet.

I tend to also think that it may

lead to you chopping off your junk.

I think those kind of diets,

I think with the stuff they're putting in

there,

I think that's what it's going to...

I mean,

I'm being deadly serious when I say that.

I know people might think I'm joking,

but I think, honestly,

I think that diet will lead to a

lot of that based on some of the

other research that's come out.

And I won't get into it right now,

but anyway...

Yeah, do what you think is right,

but there are consequences.

All right,

we don't have anything from Eric today

because he is out there working his butt

off,

probably sweating like a runaway slave.

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yep we got a number of devices in

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you know you're getting it just from all

the elect and the tech and everything else

they got in these vehicles these days all

right so with that said y'all i want

to get right into this i wanted to

find a way and i think i did

to mix the esoteric with history with

farming and we came up with a show

topic forgotten farmers have built

civilization without tractors

Now,

this could go off the deep end in

so many different ways if we wanted it

to.

I'm not sure where it'll lead.

But I was thinking in light of everything

going on right now,

in light of everything going on right now,

we might want to reach back into the

past and figure out how people did it

way back long before they had any

tractors.

But, you know,

in the world of your great grandparents,

how did they get along?

Because they didn't have tractors.

They didn't have glyphosate.

They didn't have any of the things that

people rely on these days.

When I say great-grand... For some of you,

it may be your great-great-grandparents.

But my great-grandmother was... In fact,

my grandmother was born in... Yeah.

So clearly,

she knew what life was like with just...

And honestly,

all the way up until my mom was

born...

My grandpop was still getting around with

a horse and buggy.

There are pictures of it.

And he was doing that around Pennsylvania.

So, yeah.

So there's a whole lot of lessons to

be had out there.

But anyway,

I'm going to kick this one off with

the Incas.

They were farming mountains without

tractors.

Now, if you ask somebody like me,

I'm going to wonder –

if a lot of what we see in

a lot of these cultures down there,

was it in some way influences influenced

by Nephilim or the offspring, you know,

if you go and read Genesis six,

you know,

most evangelical institutions will just

completely overlook that part.

But if you go and look at what

happened there,

And then you read some things like the

book of Enoch and some other sources out

there,

you'll find out that maybe there was a

lot of tech that was brought on this

world,

brought into this world that we only see

the remnants of today.

And I tend to think when it comes

to the Incas,

when you look at some of the things

and where they were done,

could they have been done by humans?

possibly.

But even today,

we still don't know how they did this.

But now,

here's what I want to point out regarding

the Inca Empire.

And a lot of these others did the

same thing,

but what they were mainly known for was

cultivation in steep,

rugged mountain environments.

They didn't use swales,

they used terraces.

Because after a certain degree,

swales ain't working for you, folks.

In fact,

you'll kill somebody in the wrong

circumstances if you have two

steep a grade and you try putting swales

on there.

So you find other ways to do it.

Like in Vietnam, like they do with the,

we're in China.

A lot of the Asian countries do it,

but the Incas were doing this in a,

in a crazy kind of place.

And they were growing potatoes, quinoa.

That's where it all came from.

Y'all that quinoa craze.

I was here when it came about,

never even heard about it.

I thought it was a name of somebody

in the hood,

like quinoa Jackson or something like

that.

I had no idea that this was something

you eat.

That's where they got it from.

These areas, the maze, you know,

that is probably nearly extinct today.

But honestly,

a lot of these agricultural techniques

that we should be using today came from

the Inca, son.

yeah um so what i did was uh

when you sent me the topic over i

what i did was uh compile a list

of things that they did that we no

longer do or things that uh they had

to do because they didn't have a tractor

or anything like that does that make sense

yeah yeah okay um so uh

I guess since you were talking about the

Incas, I'll go over to their relatives,

close relatives, the Mayans.

The idea of companion planting and

monoculture.

They didn't do monoculture,

especially when you get into the Central

and South American civilizations.

They really couldn't do a monoculture

because of the tropics and subtropics

around there.

It's going to immediately attack.

any monoculture in that type of situation.

Maximum half acres is the most you can

go before it becomes a monoculture in

those areas because it just needs a high

diversity over there.

The idea of companion planting was derived

from civilizations like this.

Everybody in here has probably heard of

the Three Sisters.

which is the combination of corn squash

beans.

Some people do like if you go to

the arid Southwest, they did four sisters,

which they included sunflowers and stuff

like that.

But the three sisters minimum that was

built out of necessity.

They needed ground cover to shade the

soil.

They needed the corn, obviously, for food.

And then the ground cover also provided

food in the form of squash.

And then they also needed some sort of

fertilizer in the form of a nitrogen

fixing plant planted almost in the same

doggone hole as the corn in the form

of beans.

The beans can climb the corn.

the squash will shade everything out the

corn provides a structure uh for the beans

to grow up and also food all of

it is producing food and all of it

is working together so they they couldn't

just do large-scale monoculture because

they didn't have all these external

crutches that they could lean on to force

a artificial system in a natural

environment so they had to work with the

natural environment and create these

different uh these different techniques

and stuff so

First one being companion planting and the

idea of not doing large-scale

monocultures.

See,

this is exactly where I think not talking

before the show about where each of us

is going to go is actually a net

blessing for the audience out there

because you're getting two different

takes.

We insist on doing it that way, folks,

because you get two honest points of view

without us spitting back and forth what

we're going to do.

We don't do that.

So I handle it from a historical

perspective.

perspective he's also doing it from a

historical perspective but we're hitting

different areas of it next one up for

me is going to be the aztecs and

folks we're talking from what we're

officially told from the thirteen hundreds

basically to the fifteen hundreds now they

are largely credited with chinapas and

chinapa

I was going to say that's like another

name of a kid you would find in

a hood,

Chinapa Watson or Chinapa Jackson or

something like that.

Anyway,

that's long before the hyphenated names

and all the rest of it came in.

But I digress.

Folks, these, yeah, Quinoa Jackson.

Yeah, Andy said it right there.

You know somebody's named Quinoa.

And they got a hyphen in it,

so it's even better.

Spelled just like that.

Yeah,

a proper ghetto name is not sufficient

these days unless you have the misuse of

punctuation marks.

Let me just go ahead and put that

out there.

And, man, your mom and I,

by the way, were getting pizza one day,

and they had the NFL playing on in

there.

That's the only time we get to watch

TV.

And we're waiting on this pizza.

And I'm like,

who could pronounce ninety nine percent of

the names of these people playing?

I'm like Marquis Salon.

I'm like, what?

Anyway, man, I'm going sideways.

We're supposed to be talking about the

Aztecs.

Anyway, the floating gardens,

the Chinapas out there.

Look, y'all.

William,

I want you to kind of go into

a little bit about because I'm catching

you flat footed,

but I'm just going to prove how much

my son is awesome at this stuff.

They were.

They were feeding unbelievable amounts.

In fact,

one of the largest cities before the

Spanish conquest,

it was called Tenotihuacan.

Tenotihuacan.

Tenotihuacan.

I think it's Tenotihuacan.

No, that's a different place altogether.

There's a Teotihuacan and there's a

Tenotihuacan.

It was like the, boy,

say that ten times.

It was the largest cities in the Americas

before the Spanish showed up.

And of course, you know what they did.

But there's also a lot about that Spanish

conquest that people really ought to look

into, especially what their people wrote.

about the people in these Mayan

civilizations and the Aztecs.

Nobody ever wants to talk about that,

but there have been intrepid researchers

back there that looked up because they

brought along monks as scribes,

and these guys were the cat's meow.

And what they reported finding in a lot

of these places, man,

I could really go off the deep end

right now.

If we got time at the end,

I'll circle back to it.

But basically, these guys in the Aztecs,

they are known for

for making chinapas.

And son,

I said they were feeding a whole lot

of people.

Why were they able to do it with

a chinapa?

And what is a chinapa?

A chinapa is basically like if you picture

a lake or a body of water,

something like that.

Chinapa is a manmade peninsula where you

like you outline the peninsula with a

bunch of stakes and then you fill it

in with a bunch of organic matter,

which gives you the ability to plant.

Like it's basically a waking bed that you

can plant that peninsula and then you can

harvest everything by boat.

So let's say you get on the lake.

You can fish while you're all doing it.

You can transport everything very

efficiently because you're on a boat on

water.

You can paddle on up to the chinapas,

harvest from the chinapas,

and you can move large harvests very,

very efficiently utilizing the boats and

everything.

And then also the benefits of the chinapas

on the lake is that if, let's say,

you plant a mulberry on the very tip

of the chinapa,

It's going to drop berries, feed the fish.

You're going to create like a little fish

habitat close to the chinapa.

So one person could be harvesting squash

off the chinapa.

The other person could be fishing,

you know,

the fish that are congregating close to

the chinapa as well.

It's a very, very efficient way

use of water also whenever you create

those chinampas you also create uh more

edge along the uh the lake which gives

you more space to plant if you create

more edge you have more space to plant

around the edge of your lake or pond

or whatever it may be um but yeah

it's just a very very efficient system uh

they didn't have to transport water uh

they had a very efficient transportation

of food and they could harvest multiple

food sources very diverse food sources

without really even moving.

And depending on the spacing of the

chinapas,

they could harvest two chinapas at the

same time just by putting their boat all

the way through.

So it all depends on the spacing and

everything,

but there's a lot of opportunity that I

don't see literally anybody doing anywhere

right now.

And in fact,

trying to find chinapa information online

is pretty kind of difficult.

There's very limited information you can

find about it.

In other words, folks,

if you're going to put a pond in

at a place, put fingers in it.

Make it look like a clover leaf at

the very least.

Add more edge.

It's only going to create more life.

But the point I really want to make

when I'm talking about this is that,

once again,

these farmers turn wetlands into a

massive, productive,

food-growing landscape,

some of which in Mexico still exist to

this day, all without tractors,

all without bags of fertilizer.

Over to you.

Well, and on that,

another important point that you point

that you just mentioned with the wetlands

part,

something that wouldn't have been able to

grow some of your annuals before because

the roots would have been staying wet or

very just limited edge along the edge of

the lake.

You now have given it's kind of like

the benefit of planting on the mound of

a swale.

The plant's roots can touch down and dip

into the water if it needs to,

but it also has a bunch of dry

area to get away from the water if

need be as well.

So nothing's drowning in the water or

anything like that.

Uh,

the next one that I was going to

say,

just a general point that a lot of

these, uh, cultures had, uh,

before the industrial revolution isn't and

everything is they didn't sell anything on

their farm that could not walk off their

farm on all four legs.

Uh, meaning,

and I'm saying that outside of like,

you know,

conscription or something like that.

Like if you were a slave, yeah,

you were probably,

or if you were a indentured servant or

something like that,

you're probably growing, uh,

food uh vegetables fruit whatever it may

be and then it's leaving your farm but

if you had control over it if you

had the ability to you didn't walk you

didn't sell anything that couldn't walk

off your farm on all four legs for

multiple different reasons if it walked

off on all four legs it left the

fertility it replaced the fertility that

it consumed

while it was consuming in the form of

manure so it was leaving fertility behind

the whole time also transportation is much

easier if the animal can walk itself if

it can like load up itself if it

can walk itself and if it can move

all all on its own that's more far

less energy you have to waste on your

end uh for example i could have i

could either

Like if I was maybe two hundred,

three hundred years ago,

if I was going to grow watermelons and

sell them at market,

I had to bring them to market.

I would need an animal to pull the

cart to sell watermelons to market.

But.

Uh, or I could,

and I would need like some sort of

like, uh, you know,

animal to pull that cart or I could

just bring the animal,

forget the cart and sell the cart and

sell the animal and not have to worry

about bringing anything back other than

money with me on the way back home.

Um,

but it's the real point of it though,

is the fertility you want.

You don't want to be in a net

negative of fertility on your farm.

Anything that's grown on the farm is going

to consume some level of fertility and you

want it to replace that fertility.

If I'm selling watermelons, I'm bringing,

you know,

I'm taking that the excess fertility from

my farm and giving it to other people.

And that's not really what you want to

do.

And that's honestly like if you stop doing

that, then.

I mean,

if you get more into selling meat products

or animal products or stuff like that,

then you're more likely to...

it's easier to make a profit on your

farm.

It's easier to produce a yield on your

farm,

selling it to other people versus doing

like a market garden or a farmer's market

booth or anything like that.

You'll be surprised at how much energy and

effort it actually takes in comparison to

just doing an animal system.

Dad,

are you laughing at the Chinapa Marquis

Deshaun Washington Cleveland Smith from

Andy Pearson?

Yeah,

but they wouldn't be sophisticated enough

to call it Marquis.

It'd be Marquis.

Marquise.

Yeah, Marquise.

And his nickname would be Keese Keese.

Yeah,

that's in the chat for those that are

listening to the live, I mean,

to the audio.

You all good there?

Yeah, I'm good here.

Yep, that was my point.

Yeah, the Nabataeans.

You know,

I was sitting here thinking historically,

okay, these are the people,

a lot of people might be aware of

them, but, you know,

when you heard of Petra and stuff like

that, that's who they say they are.

created petra do we know that for sure

i don't know but we're talking like three

hundred bc or a hundred ad somewhere

around there and i could think of a

number other a number of other examples as

well some of which you cannot see right

now but you can if you go to

jeff lawton's youtube channel where he

went over to iran and they are using

to this day water systems that have put

in

They were put in three thousand years ago,

and they're still every bit as operational

as they ever were.

So when the powers that shouldn't be were

playing games with the water, well,

the ancients,

they're still using those same pathways to

get water to this day.

So, yeah,

kind of hard to bomb that stuff when

it's underground.

But then again,

I better not give them any ideas.

But anyway, the Nabataeans...

I brought them up because it's a desert

environment,

and almost certainly there's a number of

people listening to us that are in a

desert environment or one that's fast

approaching that.

They've developed some serious,

sophisticated water management in all

these places.

In some cases, they even use swales.

In fact,

there was a listener that pointed out to

me a while back,

and it's in Second Kings.

Man,

I wish I had thought about bringing it

up where what is being described in Second

Kings is a swale.

and i was like wow that is really

really something else but anyway the

nebutians

Some people think also, you know,

in Petra that before Seventy A.D.

happened and all the Jews or the

Christians that left there went to Petra

and, you know, home of the Nabataeans,

supposedly.

Anyway, they would channel water.

They had cisterns.

If you've ever seen this place,

you're like,

how would anybody ever work this out?

Well, they had cisterns, dams,

methods of capturing runoff whenever it

did happen.

and they're still working to this day i

mean these systems were used all through

the byzantine empire much of the roman

empire well the roman empire obviously

first and then the byzantine empire and

then later on it's still being used by

a lot of the people that are in

the know to this day you know the

greatest agricultural resource in the

desert

isn't necessarily the rain that falls on

the ground.

It's your ability to keep it after it

falls on the ground.

Okay.

And these people were masters at doing

that.

And there was a lot of other places

just like them.

Go ahead.

Just to prove your point.

And dad, you were cutting in and out.

I don't know if the listeners heard that

at all,

but it was cutting in and out on

my end.

I don't know if the bag is on

or not, but.

And to further dad's point with the usage

of water,

like it's not the amount of water that

falls.

It's what you do with the water and

how your ability to capture and utilize

the water.

Earthship biotechs are over in Taos,

New Mexico.

It's a high altitude desert.

They get seven to fourteen inches of

precipitation a year so that doesn't mean

it's rain um it's precipitation a year um

and they are able to capture and that

might happen in one to two events and

they're able to capture enough water from

those one to two events and utilize it

efficiently enough to get them all the way

through the year up until the next uh

the next year's um rain and and snow

uh occurs so it's really not as about

How much water do you get?

How do you utilize it?

And also in earthships,

they utilize the water four times before

it leaves the property.

And on that note,

like the tunnels that dad was talking

about in Iran, they're called Qanats,

Q-A-N-A-T-S.

Now,

something that I always like to point out

whenever you bring up the Qanats,

Iran utilizes it for water.

They seem to be somewhat intelligent

people.

They're like, oh, cool.

Water is coming right towards us.

Let's not ruin this.

Whereas Iran.

Israel, in nineteen forty eight,

they came and found these tunnels and

they're like, huh,

there's clean water running through here.

But I think it's better served as a

sewage system.

So what they they now use that as

sewage as opposed to a freshwater delivery

system and stuff like that.

So they've completely ruined those canats.

I don't even know if there's a way

to even go back through and clean those

up.

So, yeah, I don't know.

But my next point is, um.

On the heels of irrigation,

they didn't irrigate weak plants.

They developed varieties and built very

strong,

adapted species that would work well in

their area.

For example,

they didn't take something like almonds.

and put them in the middle of desert

of california and then have these massive

water irrigation requirements just to

produce these almonds in california

instead they used indigenous species not

saying you have to stick to indigenous

species but they use species that work

very well that lowered their effort they

didn't use like rare or um

hard to grow species because then that

would require just more effort and lower

the yield uh it would it just wouldn't

get as much energy out of that plant

as opposed to just you know growing what's

already going to work well there so with

that in mind you start off with the

plants that do very well in your area

i don't i'm not saying like you have

to stick to native plants i think jeff

lawton's made a pretty good argument that

it's native to earth so whatever wherever

it's from

If it works well in your area,

use that and then expand slowly out from

there.

Once you've built a very stable and solid

system, then work your way out from there.

Same thing when it comes to your not

just your perennial systems,

but your gardens as well.

And with your animals,

work with work with animals that are going

to do indigenously well or inherently well

on your property.

Um, like for example, uh, in most,

most of the Southeast of the United

States, goats are not going to do well.

They do well in arid environments.

Goats are going to need to be wormed

constantly.

Uh, and then also they're going to have,

you know, just fencing issues with goats.

They do well in arid environments.

So instead of doing goats in Southeast and

trying to force that animal to do well

in that location,

pick an animal that's going to do well

in that location,

like hair sheep or something like that.

So yeah.

Yeah,

I guess my main point with this is

that quit trying to force an aspect into

a system when it's not really working

well,

when there's plenty of other options that

will work very well in your system and

require far less energy inputs,

which increases your yield.

To that point, on Clarkson's farm,

classic example,

where he brought in these pigs,

and there's a whole lot of people that

do this because...

They're thinking, okay, well,

it's a rare breed.

I'm going to bring this pig in and

we're going to,

and he has a restaurant and he's thinking,

okay, you're going to ask your mom.

We were watching this show and I said,

mark my words.

When that butcher lays out that pig,

he's going to find out that they got

problems.

And I was right on the money.

It had a,

it had a marginal fat ring at best.

It was basically built like a wild pig.

I mean, there's very little meat,

very little fat ring and,

And you're,

it's almost like you're just dealing with

like a deer wild game at that thing.

So you want to get animals that are

suited for the job.

Don't go out there and buy a designer

cow because you want to be different.

Find what works in your environment.

And folks, I can't stress that enough.

If I had a nickel for all the

people I've known of that,

they just can't get what everybody else

has.

They got to make it different.

And then you just made yourself just like

Clarkson's farm.

All he could do with these pigs is

make sausage out of them,

and it was going to be very,

very expensive sausage.

And he could change on a dime.

He just needs to get the right pigs.

He's just doing it wrong.

All right, so my next one here,

I would be absolutely kicking myself in

the butt if I didn't talk about the

Romans.

I mean, they're primarily known for this,

but clearly they weren't the first.

What Rome was really, really good at,

taking over a culture taking everything

they had and then doing it even better

take for example when they took over

greece okay you had all the famous greek

play playwrights like see if i can

remember uh sophocles euripides

aristophanes escalus all these famous

greek playwrights

And they took those same plays,

they made them Roman,

and now all of a sudden,

in Greek dramas,

you couldn't do any violence on stage.

Well, the Romans changed that around.

They would have a death scene,

bring in some old boy that really needed

money and say, okay, homie,

you're going to play whoever's about to

get bludgeoned here,

and we'll take care of your family.

I mean,

that sort of thing actually happened.

It's a crazy history that nobody ever

talks about.

But anyway, the Romans...

Man,

I could go on some deep stuff on

that, just that topic right there,

but I won't.

Look,

they're known for legumes and manure.

And the reason why we say they're known

for it is because they wrote so much

about it.

Yet people like Cato just, I mean,

volumes and volumes of what he wrote about

in terms of how they were taking their

crops and what kind of legumes and crop

rotations and things that they had to do.

This was all years and years and years

before anybody ever even heard of a

tractor.

Also, they were also doing,

and every one of these cultures were doing

this,

but I'm going to point it out for

them,

is that they were also mixing their

orchards,

their vineyards with animal systems.

There was none of this stuff that was

done in isolation, not any bit of it,

because they needed the manure from the

animals first.

or they would call it dunging.

They would take the manure from these

animals and they would use it within the

aisles of wherever they were.

And there's places, there's olive groves,

there's vineyards, livestock fields,

orchards,

even a lot of things that have been

pollard and compost back when Julius

Caesar was around.

We know this because we can look at

the trees over there in England.

Um, well, maybe not England,

but over in Gaul or modern day France.

Um,

trees that have been coppiced for that

long and are still around to this day.

Yeah,

Romans were known for a lot of stuff,

but very few people stopped to think about

how well they were known for agriculture.

And then of course,

like every other big society that falls

apart,

When they conquered North Africa,

where do you think they were getting all

the grain?

Where do you think the term Roman bread

came from?

That's where it came from.

Because if you were a Roman citizen,

you were allowed an allotment of grain and

it was given to you.

And it was basically to keep the people

pacified.

Remember, food, entertainment,

reasonable expectation of security.

You do that,

people will do anything you want for the

most part.

anyhow,

what I wanted to point out there is

that the Romans took everything everybody

else around them did and did it even

better until they didn't.

Yeah.

Um, uh, another thing to point out,

like kind of a overall,

I guess an overview of all of these

different cultures is,

all of them had passive water harvesting

systems,

whether it be swales or terraces or knots

or, or even like in,

I was reading about this one technique

where they literally would just dig in

compacted soils.

They would literally just dig a hole in

there, put a rock in the bottom.

And then as it rained and they would

cut,

it was kind of like a boomerang type

thing.

And as it rained,

it would fill up that hole.

And then that rock would actually protect

the,

From evaporation.

So the water underneath that rock would

stay there for a longer period of time,

making that water soak into the soil for

an extended period of time,

as opposed to just hit and run off

and stuff like that.

But they all had passive water harvesting

systems.

They all terraformed the earth to some

extent.

to passively harvest the water.

And then also,

they tried to build fertility in place as

much as possible.

For the example,

South America and the Amazon,

like the Mayans, the Incas, the Aztecs,

and stuff like that,

we find remnants of terra preta that's

still fertile to this day until they go

through and

you know,

deforest it and replace it with palm oil

and stuff like that.

But it's still fertile to this day.

They didn't have a constant fertility

cycle,

like shipping it in from the Balkan region

or through the Strait of Hormuz or

anything like that.

They weren't reliant upon any of that.

They created it in place,

made it super permanent.

As long as you don't, you know,

damage the soil afterwards and then put it

in place.

And then they

they had permanent fertility in those

locations in those spots and they didn't

have to keep fooling with it.

That's, that should be right there.

Enough proof to show everybody that the

fertility cycle is not something that

Once we set up the system,

once we get it good to go,

it's not something that we should keep

having to redo year after year.

We shouldn't have to keep applying

fertilizer year after year after year.

We should be able to build a system

within the soil that provides its own

fertility,

and then it's a hands-off after that,

and we can work on other aspects of

that system,

such as planting and harvesting and

maintaining and cultivation and stuff like

that.

But that's something that you'll find in

all of these different...

All of these different civilizations is

that they passively harvest with water.

They created their own fertility.

And in some cases, whenever possible,

they created permanent fertility.

And then like dad was saying earlier,

they always integrated trees into

pastures.

They never,

like for cows and stuff like that,

or whatever livestock they had,

they never clear-cutted a forest or a

savanna or anything like that in order to

grow these animals.

That's a relatively new idea.

They always integrated forest crops

because they knew that the animals needed

shade.

The humans managing,

like the shepherds and stuff like that,

they needed shade too.

So it's kind of helpful to keep some

of the trees.

But also some of these trees can provide

food crops for your animals,

especially in a period of time where your

forage might be a little bit lower.

Let's say you're getting at the end of

your drought season and maybe you're

getting a little bit low on grass.

You still have tree crops.

You still have very stable tree crops that

you can coppice, you can pollard,

you can do whatever you want to and

then feed your animals.

these are all things that were integrated

in most of these different civilizations.

They didn't have like the,

the lack of tractor forced efficient

design,

the lack of a petroleum based farming

forced very, very efficient design.

I'm glad you pointed that out, son.

I don't think we'll leave it there,

but man,

I have like five more of them, man.

I was going to talk about ancient

Mesopotamia and how every one of these

ancient

every one of these ancient cultures

there's also a downside to all of it

too is that they all in every single

case became victims of comfort meaning now

they didn't have tractors but they had

slaves

And if you read The Fall and Decline

of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon,

you'll find out that, man,

Romans got pretty darn stupid right at the

collapse.

I mean, just unbelievable.

Take ancient Mesopotamia.

And they made all these water channels,

but...

They got a little bit careless about

things.

And so all of a sudden,

they were taking salt water and getting it

into their clean water.

Now you have brackish water.

Now you have some serious problems.

Now you've got a civilization that fell

apart.

And then also think,

how are the hanging gardens of Babylon?

Remember,

we've got the hanging gardens of Babylon,

one of the ancient wonders of the world.

and how did the water get there how

did they get the water up there was

it archimedes screw what was it how did

it happen but they were able to get

water to all these civilizations and of

course now we struggle just to find out

how they built half of this stuff but

anyway when it comes down to the farming

and the water and everything else clearly

there are lessons to be learned

In every one of these guys,

there's a lesson of what not to do.

Okay, number one, if you're Maya,

you might want to think twice about

bringing in the Spanish because it didn't

end well for you.

And man, if somebody reminds me,

maybe I'll go into it the next time,

what the Spanish chroniclers were saying

when they hit the ground there about the

giants saying,

The skulls,

that they were able to take a rapier,

which is about three feet long,

stick it through the eye socket of these

ancient skeletons and not be able to hit

the back of it with a rapier going

through the eyeball.

That's what these ancient chroniclers

talked about.

And there was a number of them that

did.

Pretty awesome,

incredible history that most people have

forgotten about it and frankly don't even

want to know about.

But I know a lot of people here

might find that interesting.

Maybe I'll have to do a little show

about some of this stuff.

I keep talking about it,

but keep getting busy.

Anything else to add, son?

Yeah,

an interesting tidbit that I heard

recently,

and I don't know if it's true or

not,

but it might –

It might make sense that the hanging

gardens of Babylon could have potentially

actually been in Nineveh.

There's a couple of writings that refer to

the hanging gardens of Babylon being

actually in Nineveh.

And it was named after the confusion

happened because they were named after

Nineveh.

something that they had seen in the

babylonian empire and stuff like that

which i thought that was interesting

whether or not it's true or not i

don't really know they don't even know

where the hanging gardens of babylon were

um or how they did any of it

or any aspects of it uh but it

would be interesting if it was actually in

nineveh and just named after

Babylon.

And then it made me think like,

how many times does that actually get

screwed up where something will be named

after another location?

And then we get confused on where the,

that actual, uh,

structure or event or something like that

actually occurred because it was named

after another civilization.

But,

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

Yeah, I'm glad you pointed that out.

There's a lot of that that goes on.

But I just thought it would be a

pretty neat show to do to talk about.

I didn't realize you were going to hit

it from the angle you did,

and you probably didn't realize I'd hit it

from mine.

So yeah,

this was a fun show to do, man.

We might have to do a part two

sometime because I still have...

I have a bunch of them on here,

but essentially it comes down to the same

stuff, infrastructure, water,

all those things out there, you know,

just like that.

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