{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","title":"John Wayne Gacy: What His Death Row Attorney Discovered","description":"John Wayne Gacy murdered at least 33 young men and boys. But for years after his conviction, attorney Karen Conti sat across from him on death row, trying to understand the man behind one of America’s most infamous serial murder cases.\n\nIn this episode of UNMARKED, Conti describes what Gacy was really like behind closed doors: his manipulation, emotional detachment, need for control, and the contradictions that made him so difficult to fully understand. We also examine modern psychological and criminological research surrounding psychopathy, trophy-taking, victim selection, and the environmental patterns that shape serial killers.\n\nWhy did Gacy keep victims beneath his own home when most serial killers attempt to distance themselves from the crime? What did he reveal in private that the public never saw? And what happens when someone spends years speaking directly with a man the world has already reduced to a monster?\n\nShow Notes:\n\nWalter, M., Beauregard, E., & Chopin, J. (2024). Trophy, souvenir, or simple theft? Taking items from the victim in sexual homicide. Behavioral Sciences & the Law, 42(4), 338–353.\n\nMore from Karen Conti here: https://www.karenconti.com/\n\nFollow James Buddy Day  on Instagram: @jamesbuddyday\n\nLean is having a Huge Memorial Day Sale. Visit http://takelean.com and enter THANK YOU 25 for 25% off.\n\nWhen writing Buddy uses FÜM — don’t just try to quit. Upgrade the habit loop: .https://tryfum.com/unmarked\n\nIf you want to go deeper into the Charles Manson case, Buddy’s  book Charles Manson: The Last Words:  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GQ6QRVQ7\n\nFor those who want to examine the evidence directly, complete phone calls and documents are available inside UNMARKED: Case Files, our research portal, along with ad-free episodes: https://www.patreon.com/Unmarked_TrueCrimePodcast\nUNMARKED: A True Crime Podcast is hosted by Audioboom.","author_name":"UNMARKED: A True Crime Podcast","author_url":"https://audioboom.com/channels/5167828-unmarked-a-true-crime-podcast","provider_name":"Audioboom","provider_url":"https://audioboom.com","width":480,"height":95,"thumbnail_url":"https://audioboom.com/i/43648705/600x600/c","thumbnail_width":600,"thumbnail_height":600,"html":""}