{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","title":"Did Anyone Around D4vd Ever Ask Celeste's Age?","description":"Strip out the forensics for one segment. Prosecutors allege Burke connected with Celeste online, through gaming, while he was still in high school in Texas. Deputies would eventually stand in front of him and tell him her age out loud. The machine around him never blinked.\n\nLive conversation about the part of the d4vd case that has nothing to do with forensics. Tony and Robin go all the way back to the beginning — before the charges, before the streams, before anybody outside a gaming lobby knew the name.\n\nA homeschooled kid. Gospel music only until thirteen. An entire social world that existed on a screen. A mother who told him to quit complaining about copyright strikes and make something of his own. A record deal at seventeen while he was still in high school.\n\nAnd then the alter ego. Burke named him Itami, which means pain, and described him publicly as an agent of chaos — an evil version of himself who commits the murders that Burke's detective character then has to solve. He compared it to Fight Club without anyone prompting him.\n\nHe filmed the character holding a bloody knife. He animated the character taking a woman's arm. He released a video in which he drags a body and puts it into a car.\n\nNow hold the other side of it, because it is a real argument. Artists make violent work constantly. It proves nothing on its own. Nobody is a killer because they wrote a song.\n\nExcept prosecutors allege this man did what the character did.\n\nSo the live question is where dark art ends and something else begins, and whether an industry that valued this young man in the millions and sold his darkness as a brand owns any piece of what came next.\n\nBurke has pleaded not guilty and denies all wrongdoing. Celeste Rivas Hernandez was fourteen. Come argue about it.\n\nEND_LINKS\n\nJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod\n\nDISCLAIMER\n\nThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.\n\nHASHTAGS\n\n#D4vd #DavidBurke #HiddenKillersLive #Itami #CelesteRivasHernandez #TrueCrime #LiveStream #MusicIndustry #RomanticHomicide #TrueCrimeLive","author_name":"Hidden Killers Live! Daily True Crime News & Breakdowns","author_url":"https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-hidden-killers-live-daily-true-crime-news-breakdowns","provider_name":"Audioboom","provider_url":"https://audioboom.com","width":480,"height":95,"thumbnail_url":"https://audioboom.com/i/43761997/600x600/c","thumbnail_width":600,"thumbnail_height":600,"html":""}