{"type":"rich","version":"1.0","title":"Alleigha Botner's Messages to Caleb Flynn Said WHAT?!","description":"The Caleb Flynn trial did not only put his messages under a microscope. Alleigha Botner had to read her own. One of the most damaging exchanges came from July 10, 2025, when she acknowledged writing that she wanted Ashley Flynn dead. Flynn answered, “that makes two of us.” Botner testified that she regretted the message and did not mean it literally.\n\nThis combined episode brings together the behavioral and psychological sides of that relationship. Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI special agent, joins Robin Dreeke to examine the messages prosecutors used to show how the affair evolved into repeated conversations about Ashley’s death. Their discussion includes the September 2 exchange after Ashley discovered messages on Caleb’s iPad. Flynn suggested taking Ashley’s phone while she slept to see whether she still had the evidence. Botner told him to be careful, asked what excuse he would use, and called the plan “Perfect.”\n\nPsychotherapist Shavaun Scott looks at an earlier question: how did the relationship get to that point? Botner testified that she first met Flynn while she was a young church intern and he was an older married volunteer on the worship team. Scott discusses the trust attached to church roles, the age gap, Flynn’s claim that Ashley was essentially a roommate, the secrecy of the affair, AI-generated love songs, and matching hidden tattoos as parts of a private world built away from outside scrutiny.\n\nOn September 29, Flynn was convicted of aggravated murder and eight additional charges in Ashley Flynn’s death. The defense had argued that an intruder killed Ashley and that the affair evidence was being used to turn marital betrayal into proof of murder. Sentencing is set for October 5. Coffindaffer and Scott examine different pieces of the same record: the words the jury heard and the relationship dynamics surrounding them.\n\nListen Anywhere You Get Podcasts:https://pod.link/1655749292\nWant to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel.https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1\nJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!:https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/\nInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/\nFacebookhttps://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/\nTik-Tokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod\nX Twitterhttps://x.com/tonybpod\n\nThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.\n\n#CalebFlynn #AshleyFlynn #AlleighaBotner #JenniferCoffindaffer #ShavaunScott #RobinDreeke #HiddenKillers #OhioTrial #TrueCrime #CalebFlynnVerdict","author_name":"Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary","author_url":"https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-true-crime-news-commentary","provider_name":"Audioboom","provider_url":"https://audioboom.com","width":480,"height":95,"thumbnail_url":"https://audioboom.com/i/43862684/600x600/c","thumbnail_width":600,"thumbnail_height":600,"html":""}