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What do you do with grief for something that never was?



Helena de Groot spent years circling one of the most quietly radical questions a person can ask: whether or not to have a child. The result was Creation Myth — an 8-part audio memoir for CBC that became a Tribeca Festival Official Selection, landed on the New York Times Modern Love podcast, and earned praise from Death, Sex &amp; Money to The New Yorker.



In this conversation, Helena and Saadia go to the heart of it, not the podcast, but the ache underneath it. They talk about whose grief Helena was holding while making it, what people were willing to say on tape, and what she knows now that she wishes she'd known at the start.

This episode is for anyone who has wanted, lost, chosen, or is still deciding. The grief rhymes, even when the stories don't match.



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