rich 1.0 In this episode, Amanda sits down with eating disorder therapist Edie Stark to unpack what really happened during Edie’s viral debate with Jillian Michaels on Jubilee — and why conversations about body positivity, weight, and health so often turn into algorithm-friendly shouting matches instead of meaningful dialogue. In conversation, we tackle: What it was actually like debating Jillian Michaels on Jubilee — and how the final edit differed from the real conversation Common misconceptions about the body positivity and fat liberation movements How “health” gets weaponized in online conversations about bodies The tension between acknowledging health risks and avoiding body shame Why diet culture and reactionary anti-diet messaging can both oversimplify complex issues What working with eating disorder clients reveals about weight stigma and medical bias Why internet debates prioritize “winning” over understanding How to have more thoughtful conversations about weight, health, and bodies in a polarized online world You can find Edie's work at ediestark.com and on social media @ediestarktherapy. If you’d like to support the show one of the best things you can do is leave us a review and share the pod! THANK YOU! We have some incredible BONUS episodes on our SUBSTACK! nuanceneeded.substack.com To learn more about therapy reach out to Therapy for Women Center, therapyforwomencenter.com. We have therapists licensed in 42 states across the country and have offices if you are local to the Philadelphia area. Want to join the conversation? You can email us podcast@therapyforwomencenter.com. We’d love to hear what you think! Nuance Needed https://audioboom.com/channels/5161531-nuance-needed Audioboom https://audioboom.com 480 95 https://audioboom.com/i/43642828/600x600/c 600 600 <iframe width="100%" height="95" src="https://embeds.audioboom.com/posts/8902653/embed?v=202301" style="background-color: transparent; display: block; padding: 0; width: 100%" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="allowtransparency" scrolling="no" title="Audioboom player" allow="autoplay" sandbox="allow-downloads allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation"></iframe>