rich 1.0 "Believe in yourself and your dream. Never, ever change your vision, but you could change the strategy, if it's not working." In this conversation, Devon Tilly (https://www.linkedin.com/in/devon-tilly-5a407a20/) chats with Catherine Kontos (https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinekontos/) of RetreatBoss (https://www.retreatboss.com) ! Catherine Kontos (https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinekontos/) is a strategist, business builder, and ecosystem founder shaping the future of the retreat and human experience industry. As the founder of RetreatBoss (https://www.retreatboss.com) , RetreatMatch, and RetreatBoss Magazine, she brings more than 14 years of experience to the space. With a track record that includes acquiring and selling over 100 businesses and properties, including retreat venues, Catherine brings a rare blend of transformational experience design and serious commercial acumen. Through certification, consulting, media, and international collaborative partnerships, she helps retreat leaders, venues, and experience-based brands build offerings that are not only meaningful, but strategically positioned for visibility, profitability, and lasting legacy. Watch the RetreatMatch Promo Video ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CoE9Qo1EGu62ubX8E5a56iHl77x3CyIZ/view) ! Take a peak at the Mastering Retreats Spring 2026 Promo Video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kZrjx8A2ezzwLW2s_T9rePYSrEE2i5j0/view) ! Follow RetreatBoss on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/retreat_boss) ! Learn about RetreatMatch (https://www.retreatmatch.com) ! Take a look at the RetreatBoss Magazine (https://retreatbossmagazine.com) ! Keep up with the Art of Construction (AOC) podcast on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/aocmasterfacilitators/) , Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/TheArtofConstructionmvwd) , and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/theart-of-construction/) ! Subscribe to us and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-art-of-construction/id932645265) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/7BlCk55C41hoPZrs7GqSeB?si=a1f01767be8d41a3) ! The Art of Construction https://audioboom.com/channels/3045781-the-art-of-construction Audioboom https://audioboom.com 480 95 https://audioboom.com/i/43680645/600x600/c 600 600 <iframe width="100%" height="95" src="https://embeds.audioboom.com/posts/8909846/embed?v=202301" style="background-color: transparent; display: block; padding: 0; width: 100%" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="allowtransparency" scrolling="no" title="Audioboom player" allow="autoplay" sandbox="allow-downloads allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation"></iframe>