rich 1.0 Dario Pagani transitioned from ChargePoint to Autel Energy years ago as the compancy, once a scan-tool manufacturer from Shenzhen, was building out its transition to charging hardware with a North Carolina factory and California-based innovation center. He's ready to share some of the trends he's seen in both the level 2 (slow) and DC (fast) charging industries for EVs, where market and incentive structures are shaping a lucrative but novel business that's part-construction, part-manufacturing reliant on global supply chains, and part-technology company. Max and Dario go over - The aggressive pace of EV charging relative to modest EV passenger adoption in the US - The challenges since COVID of being a global manufacturer who produces their own hardware - The evolution of his role from being at a CPO (Charge Point Operator) to a company that ships interoperable hardware that is flexible - Trends he's seeing in the charging business as retail and multifamily adoption grows 🎙️ Listen on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform (https://audioboom.com/channels/5137915-directly-current-the-ev-politics-podcast) Resources and Links: Check out Dario's LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariopagani/) ⚡ Stay Plugged In Support EVs for All America (and buy our merch!) (https://www.evsforallamerica.org/) Directly Current: EVs for All America https://audioboom.com/channels/5137915-directly-current-evs-for-all-america Audioboom https://audioboom.com 480 95 https://audioboom.com/i/43753109/600x600/c 600 600 <iframe width="100%" height="95" src="https://embeds.audioboom.com/posts/8930657/embed?v=202301" style="background-color: transparent; display: block; padding: 0; width: 100%" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="allowtransparency" scrolling="no" title="Audioboom player" allow="autoplay" sandbox="allow-downloads allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation"></iframe>