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  <title>This Scott Bessent Interview Got Weirder by the Minute</title>
  <description>This episode is a little taste of Receipts, Catherine Rampell’s brand-new show from The Bulwark, where she follows the money, cuts through the economic spin, and exposes who’s really paying the price for Trump’s policies. Subscribe to Receipts wherever you listen to podcasts:

Apple Podcasts:  ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/receipts-with-catherine-rampell/id6807470569
Spotify:  ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/1O2Z2akwyonpAsbxyMqBTV

Scott Bessent thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room, but his disastrous financial record and increasingly strange public statements tell another story. Catherine Rampell and Sam Stein dissect the Treasury secretary’s jaw-dropping Axios interview, then Catherine talks with an American cheesemaker whose business has been hammered by Trump’s trade wars, supposedly designed to protect farmers like him.</description>
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