Kouri Richins Deep Dive + Nancy Guthrie Update — Psychology of Alternate Realities
This extended Hidden Killers episode brings psychotherapist Shavaun Scott in for comprehensive analysis of two cases united by a single theme: the construction of alternate realities. Kouri Richins appears to inhabit a different reality than everyone around her. Charged with murder, she wrote a grief book and promoted it on television. From jail, she filed lawsuits demanding millions from Eric...
57m Mar 06
57m
Kouri Richins Trial: Chelsea Barney — Explosive Texts and Calls Revealed
Chelsea Barney, Friend of Kouri, takes center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense calls a tra...
1hr 15m Mar 05
1hr 15m
Kouri Richins & The Mask: Why Everyone Loves Your Abuser | Surviving the Fog Part 4
Everyone loves them. You know what they're really like at home. And you wonder if you're crazy. This is Part 4 of "Surviving the Fog"—examining the psychology of the mask through the Kouri Richins case. We're not diagnosing anyone. We're exploring documented patterns. After Eric died, Kouri wrote a children's book about grief called "Are You With Me?" Featured her sons. Promoted it. Did media...
13m Mar 05
13m
Kouri Richins Trial: Gabe Morin & Joshua Kaze — Valentine’s Day Breakfast Timeline Revealed
Gabe Morin, Owner of Mirror Lake Diner & Joshua Kaze, Friend of Eric Richins, take the stand in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-f...
20m Mar 05
20m
Aaron Spencer: Murder Defendant Wins Sheriff Primary in Arkansas
The voters of Lonoke County, Arkansas just chose a murder defendant to be their Republican nominee for sheriff. Aaron Spencer won 53.5 percent of the vote, crushing the thirteen-year incumbent whose deputies arrested him in October 2024. Spencer is charged with second-degree murder for shooting Michael Fosler—a sixty-seven-year-old man who was facing forty-three felony charges including sexual...
20m Mar 05
20m
Nancy Guthrie Investigation — 33 Days, No Arrest, and the Psychology of Conspiracy Theories
We're more than 33 days into the Nancy Guthrie disappearance. No suspect in custody. No clear resolution. Resources scaling back. And the internet is drowning in theories — cartels, coordinated kidnapping crews, private jets to Puerto Vallarta, even retaliation for U.S. drug policy. But the doorbell footage tells a different story. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Hidden Killers to examine...
17m Mar 05
17m
Kouri Richins Trial: Marie Bramwell & Becky Lloyd — Witnesses Describe Conversations With Kouri
Marie Bramwell, Attorney & Becky Lloyd, C&E Stone Masonry, take center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme...
22m Mar 05
22m
Colin Gray Guilty of Murder: The Excuses, The Lies, The Verdict That Changes Everything
Colin Gray guilty. Every count. Murder. Less than two hours of deliberation. Colin Gray guilty on all charges makes him the first parent in Georgia history convicted for a mass school shooting committed by his child. The Colin Gray guilty verdict exposed a father who had every warning imaginable and chose to do nothing. Colin Gray guilty was inevitable when you see what he ignored. The FBI wa...
16m Mar 05
16m
"If He Could Just Go Away" — Kouri Richins' Affair Texts Exposed in Court on the Day Eric Died Four Years Ago
The Kouri Richins murder trial took its most personal turn yet as prosecutors called her longtime boyfriend to the stand — and walked the jury through years of texts that prosecutors say reveal exactly what Kouri wanted, and what she was willing to do to get it. Robert Josh Grossman testified on the four-year anniversary of Eric Richins' death. He broke down on the stand reading private messag...
28m Mar 05
28m
Kouri Richins 911 Call — Real Grief or Performance? Psychologist Analyzes
The 911 call from the night Eric Richins died was played in court. Kouri was sobbing hysterically, barely able to answer questions. The defense called it "the sounds of a wife becoming a widow." But prosecutors say her phone was active in the hours before that call. Eric's sister testified Kouri appeared "well put together" with her hair done when she arrived at the scene. How do we understan...
26m Mar 05
26m
Kouri Richins Financial Fraud — The $500K Paper Trail Exposed
Before the fentanyl, prosecutors say there was fraud. Nearly half a million dollars allegedly siphoned from Eric Richins through forged signatures, unauthorized credit lines, and misdirected tax payments — all while Kouri Richins ran her own real estate business and closed multi-million-dollar deals. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Hidden Killers to examine the psychology of financial expl...
15m Mar 05
15m
Kouri Richins Trial: Robert Josh Grossman — Affair Text Messages Revealed in Court
Robert Josh Grossman, Kouri's lover, takes center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense calls a...
1hr 15m Mar 05
1hr 15m
The Long Island Serial Killer's Family: Living With LISK — Hero vs. Gilgo Beach Killer
What happens when you've loved a monster? When the evidence piles up but your memory tells you something different about the Gilgo Beach Killer? In Part 3 of our LISK series, we examine the fracture inside the alleged Long Island Serial Killer's family. His ex-wife Asa Ellerup still calls him her "hero." Their daughter Victoria says he's "most likely" the Gilgo Beach serial killer. Same house...
16m Mar 05
16m
Kouri Richins Trial: Kristal Bowman-Carter — Wills and Trusts Details Exposed
Kristal Bowman-Carter, estate planning attorney, takes center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the def...
45m Mar 05
45m
Bob Motta Analyzes Kouri Richins Prosecution Problems & Colin Gray's Devastating Family Testimony
Defense attorney Bob Motta delivers extended analysis on two trials exposing fundamental problems with their respective prosecutions. Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke break down the Kouri Richins case in Utah and the Colin Gray trial in Georgia—both reaching moments that could determine outcomes. The Richins prosecution built a case on Carmen Lauber's testimony about obtaining fentanyl. But Rober...
1hr 8m Mar 05
1hr 8m
Kouri Richins Trial: Christina Miller — Divorce Attorney Reveals Talks With Eric
Christina Miller, Divorce Attorney, takes center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense calls a ...
38m Mar 04
38m
Kouri Richins & Financial Abuse: The Chains You Can't See | Surviving the Fog Part 3
The Kouri Richins case is, at its core, a financial case. Prosecutors allege $4.5 million in debt. 200+ overdrafts. A mansion closing Eric allegedly didn't know they couldn't afford. If true, it's financial coercive control at its most extreme. This is Part 3 of "Surviving the Fog"—examining financial abuse as the ultimate form of control. We're not diagnosing anyone. We're exploring document...
13m Mar 04
13m
Kouri Richins Trial: Anne Coates — Insurance Evidence Keeps Coming
Anne Coates, Senior Manager at CMFG Live Insurance, takes the stand in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the def...
34m Mar 04
34m
Colin Gray Guilty of Murder — What This Verdict Means for Every Parent in America
Guilty. All 29 counts. Second-degree murder. Colin Gray is now the third parent in American history convicted for a school shooting committed by their child—and the first to catch murder charges, not just manslaughter. A Georgia jury needed less than two hours to decide his fate. Bob Motta joins Hidden Killers to unpack the verdict, the failed defense, and whether this case just redrew the li...
19m Mar 04
19m
The $800 Left Behind: Kouri Richins' Financial Collapse Exposed in Court
The prosecution's motive case in the Kouri Richins murder trial just got its most detailed presentation yet — and it came from a forensic accountant armed with hundreds of thousands of documents. Day seven of the trial in Park City, Utah brought Brooke Karrington to the stand, where she spent the full day detailing the financial implosion prosecutors say drove Kouri Richins to allegedly poison...
28m Mar 04
28m
Kouri Richins Trial: Lashawnda Rodgers & Brian Frecklton — Richins Insurance Policies Exposed
Lashawnda Rodgers & Brian Frecklton, insurance & financial advisors, take center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-pro...
58m Mar 04
58m
Michael Jackson NEW Lawsuit: The Psychology Behind the Cascio Reversal: Grooming, Loyalty, and $200M
How does someone defend their alleged abuser for twenty-five years—then suddenly file a two hundred million dollar lawsuit? The Cascio family just accused Michael Jackson's estate of child trafficking. But these siblings spent decades swearing Jackson was innocent. Frank Cascio wrote a book. They went on Oprah. They attacked Wade Robson on social media before "Leaving Neverland" aired. Now th...
23m Mar 04
23m
Kouri Richins: Detective Told Witness "The Goal Is to Convict Kouri for Aggravated Murder"
A detective told Carmen Lauber that "the goal is to convict Kouri for aggravated murder." That admission came out during cross-examination in the Kouri Richins trial—and it may be one of the most significant moments in the entire case. When law enforcement tells a witness what outcome they're seeking before that witness testifies, it raises questions about everything that follows. Tony Brueski...
26m Mar 04
26m
Kouri Richins: Prosecution's Drug Witnesses Contradict Each Other Under Oath
The prosecution's fentanyl supply chain just hit a major credibility problem in the Kouri Richins trial. Robert Crozier testified he only sold oxycodone to Carmen Lauber—not fentanyl—because "everybody was scared of fentanyl" at the time. That directly contradicts what Lauber told the jury. When your two drug-chain witnesses can't agree on what the drugs actually were, the entire theory starts ...
25m Mar 04
25m
The Long Island Serial Killer's Planning Document: LISK's Alleged Murder Blueprint Examined
What prosecutors found on Rex Heuermann's hard drive may be the most damning evidence in the Gilgo Beach case—a deleted Microsoft Word document they say the Long Island Serial Killer used as a literal instruction manual. The file was titled HK2002-04. According to court documents, it allegedly contained eighty-seven details organized into sections: Problems, Supplies, Targets, Dump Sites, Pre-...
16m Mar 04
16m
Kouri Richins Trial: Brooke Karrington — Financial Evidence Faces Tough Cross Part 4
Brooke Karrington, Forensic Accountant, continues to testify in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense ca...
1hr 7m Mar 04
1hr 7m
Robin Dreeke: Guthrie Suspect, Guthrie Investigation, Richins Trial — Reading All Three
FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke spent 21 years with the Bureau, including serving as Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. His job was reading people — understanding what behavior reveals about who someone actually is. In this three-part conversation, he applies that lens to two of the biggest cases in the country. On the Nancy Guthrie suspect: the criticism of his ...
1hr 1m Mar 04
1hr 1m
Kouri Richins Trial: Brooke Karrington — State Wraps Examination of Witness Part 3
Brooke Karrington, Forensic Accountant, continues to testify in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense ca...
1hr 31m Mar 03
1hr 31m
Kouri Richins & Gaslighting: How Abusers Make You Doubt Reality | Surviving the Fog Part 2
How did Eric Richins miss millions in debt allegedly piling up in his own marriage? The same way thousands of people miss it every day: the fog. This is Part 2 of "Surviving the Fog"—examining coercive control psychology through the Kouri Richins case. We're not diagnosing anyone. We're exploring patterns documented in abuse research. Gaslighting isn't casual lying. It's sustained psychologi...
19m Mar 03
19m
Kouri Richins Trial: Brooke Karrington — Financial Records Under the Microscope Part 2
Brooke Karrington, Forensic Accountant, continues to testify in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense ca...
51m Mar 03
51m
Kouri Richins: FBI Expert Reads the Witnesses, the Defendant, and the Jury
Carmen Lauber is the prosecution's star witness in the Kouri Richins murder trial. She claims she bought fentanyl for Kouri four times before Eric Richins died. But she was using meth during that period. She got immunity from three jurisdictions. Her supplier now says he sold oxycodone, not fentanyl. She admitted confusion on the stand. The defense is hammering her credibility. The prosecution ...
20m Mar 03
20m
Kouri Richins Trial: Brooke Karrington — Financial Records Under the Microscope Part 1
Brooke Karrington, Forensic Accountant, takes center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense call...
1hr 24m Mar 03
1hr 24m
Nancy Guthrie Case: Arizona Law Makes Sheriff Nanos Nearly Untouchable
Chris Nanos won reelection as Pima County Sheriff by 481 votes. His own Board of Supervisors has twice requested outside investigations into his conduct. Deputies voted no confidence. He placed his political opponent on administrative leave weeks before the election. And now, with the Nancy Guthrie disappearance making national headlines every day, calls for his removal have intensified to a le...
17m Mar 03
17m
Kouri Richins' Phone Was Unlocked 15 Minutes Before She Called 911
The prosecution dropped a digital bomb on Day 6 of the Kouri Richins murder trial — and the jury spent Monday afternoon watching it detonate in real time. Digital forensic analyst Chris Kotrodimos testified about data recovered from seven phones and records sets connected to Kouri, Eric Richins, her alleged boyfriend Josh Grossman, housekeeper Carmen Lauber, and drug supplier Robert Crozier. A...
36m Mar 03
36m
Nancy Guthrie Investigation: FBI Insider Says the Dysfunction You're Seeing Is Standard
The crime scene was released before the FBI fully secured it. Evidence went to a private Florida lab instead of Quantico. Federal sources accused the sheriff of blocking access. There's been public contradiction about basic facts — even whether the doorbell images were captured on one day or two. For four weeks, the assumption has been that this investigation is uniquely dysfunctional. Robin Dr...
18m Mar 03
18m
Nancy Guthrie: Why the Suspect's "Amateur" Operation Is Actually the Norm
Four weeks of analysis has focused on how sloppy this suspect appears — the cheap Ozark Trail backpack from Walmart, the holster sitting awkwardly over his groin, the improvised camera cover made from weeds pulled out of a potted plant. The assumption is that this operation was unusually amateurish. Former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke says that assumption is wrong. This is what most offe...
24m Mar 03
24m
Kouri Richins Trial: Chris Kotrodimos — Defense Pushes Back on Digital Timeline Part 3
Chris Kotrodimos, Digital Forensics Expert, is cross-examined by the defense in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme...
1hr Mar 03
1hr
Kouri Richins Trial: Chris Kotrodimos — Prosecution Unveils Richins’ Phone Activity Part 2
Chris Kotrodimos, Digital Forensics Expert, continues on the stand in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defe...
40m Mar 03
40m
Rex Heuermann: The Alleged LISK's 30 Years of Deception Examined
How does someone allegedly murder seven women over three decades while his family sees nothing but a devoted husband and father? Rex Heuermann was arrested July 13, 2023. Prosecutors call him LISK—the Long Island Serial Killer. His wife Asa calls him her "hero." His daughter Victoria says he's "most likely" the Gilgo Beach Killer. In this Hidden Killers deep dive, we examine the psychology th...
14m Mar 03
14m
Kouri Richins Trial: Chris Kotrodimos — Prosecution Unveils Richins’ Phone Activity Part 1
Chris Kotrodimos, Digital Forensics Expert, takes the stand in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense cal...
1hr 2m Mar 03
1hr 2m
Listener Q&A: Guthrie Disappearance and Richins Trial—Your Questions Answered
Two cases. One show. All your questions. The Nancy Guthrie investigation has hit four weeks with no arrest. A suspect captured on camera that nobody can identify. Fifty thousand tips and nothing actionable. DNA on gloves that didn't hit any database. A pacemaker signal that searchers couldn't find. You've been asking if Nancy's still alive, how someone stays invisible when their face is everyw...
1hr 4m Mar 03
1hr 4m
Kouri Richins Trial: Allison Wright — Witness Recalls Marriage Trouble Confession
Allison Wright, friend of Eric Richins, takes the stand in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense calls a...
18m Mar 02
18m
Kouri Richins & Love Bombing: Why Victims Don't See It Coming | Surviving the Fog Part 1
How did Eric Richins not see it? Prosecutors allege Kouri Richins was $4.5 million in debt, texting a boyfriend, allegedly buying fentanyl from her housekeeper—all while Eric came home thinking he had a marriage. The question isn't why he didn't leave. It's what he saw in the beginning that made everything else invisible. This is Part 1 of "Surviving the Fog"—a five-part psychological examin...
14m Mar 02
14m
Kouri Richins Trial: Robert Crozier Video & Molly Crosswhite — Crozier’s Interview With Investigators Revealed
Robert Crozier Video & Molly Crosswhite take center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense calls...
27m Mar 02
27m
Richins Trial: Why the Defense Says There's Reasonable Doubt
The prosecution has their theory. The defense has their wrecking ball. And they're swinging it at everything. Carmen Lauber is the whole case—and she admitted on the stand she was high on meth during the entire time period she's describing. Late January, mid-February, early March 2022. The exact window of the alleged drug buys. She told police her memory was "messed up" and "foggy." She said s...
15m Mar 02
15m
Kouri Richins Trial: Dr. Erik Christensen — Courtroom Hears Kouri’s Call to Examiner
Dr. Erik Christensen, Retired Medical Examiner, takes center stage in the Kouri Richins trial. Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defe...
1hr 7m Mar 02
1hr 7m
D4VD Named Murder Target: Family Fights Subpoenas as Grand Jury Closes In
D4VD is officially a murder target. Court documents unsealed this week confirm the Los Angeles County DA's office has designated the 20-year-old singer as the target of a grand jury investigation into the death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez — the 14-year-old girl whose dismembered remains were found in the trunk of his Tesla. The designation surfaced through an unlikely source: D4VD's own family....
16m Mar 02
16m
Kouri Richins' Own Witnesses Are Becoming the Defense's Best Evidence
The prosecution's case against Kouri Richins just hit a wall it built itself. On Day 5, Robert Crozier — the alleged original fentanyl source — testified under three immunity deals that he sold Carmen Lauber oxycodone, not fentanyl, and had no fentanyl connection in early 2022. He pointed out errors in his own affidavit, called the language inaccurate, and said his jail interview with detective...
23m Mar 02
23m
Richins Trial: Inside the Prosecution's Case Against Kouri
The state says Kouri Richins poisoned her husband with fentanyl. They've presented their evidence to a jury—and you've got questions about whether it's enough to convict. Carmen Lauber testified she bought fentanyl for Kouri four times. She claims Kouri told her it was for an "investor"—a story that falls apart under any scrutiny. The prosecution is treating that cover story as evidence of pre...
17m Mar 02
17m
Guthrie Case Q&A: The Questions Nobody Can Answer
Fifty thousand tips. A million-dollar reward. A suspect's face broadcast nationwide. And four weeks later—nothing. No identification. No arrest. No Nancy. You've been asking questions about the Nancy Guthrie case, and honestly, they're the same questions we've been asking ourselves. So let's get into it. Is Nancy Guthrie still alive? What does a month of silence with no ransom demand tell us? ...
32m Mar 02
32m