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If Alex Murdaugh Didn&#39;t Kill Maggie And Paul — Who Did?
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Jennifer Coffindaffer built and broke cases like this for a career at the FBI. She&#39;s doing something she rarely does with the Murdaugh case: a clean-slate thought experiment. Strip the name off the file. Forget the financial crimes. Forget the public persona. Look at the scene.

Two people shot at the dog kennels on a remote hunting property. Two different firearms — a shotgun and a rifle. Neit...
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Was Kouri Richins Faking Grief Or Actually Living Inside It?
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She wrote a children&#39;s book about grief. Went on television to promote it. Talked about helping her boys cope with their dad&#39;s &quot;unexpected&quot; death. Fourteen months of a constructed identity that fooled every friend who testified at trial. The whole time, she was the reason those children were grieving.

The behavioral question isn&#39;t whether Kouri Richins was faking. It&#39;s whether she was faking a...
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Jennifer Coffindaffer spent a career handing cases to prosecutors. She knows what the evidence file looks like when a case is strong. Security footage tracking the defendant&#39;s movements. A smashed phone in a trash bin. DNA pointing in one direction. A body concealed beneath a bed on a cruise ship. When the file looks like that and the suspect walks out of the courthouse — she has a reaction.

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How Did Donna Adelson Allegedly Convince Herself She Was Protecting Her Family?
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The behavioral question at the center of the Dan Markel case isn&#39;t how a murder-for-hire gets organized. It&#39;s how a grandmother, a former schoolteacher, a woman who spent decades projecting devotion to her family allegedly convinced herself that orchestrating the killing of her grandchildren&#39;s father was the right thing to do.

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Did Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s Family Just Build the Case Against Her?
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Natalie Shirilla called the Russo family &quot;evil people&quot; on a monitored prison call. Steve Shirilla lost his teaching job after appearing on a Netflix documentary defending his convicted daughter. Mackenzie has thirty-six conduct violations, refuses rehabilitation, and told her mother she wants to be a life coach. Defense attorney Eric Faddis asks the question the audience is already asking: is t...
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How Strong Is the Case in the Anna Kepner Cruise Ship Trial?
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A federal judge said he would not call the prosecution&#39;s case in the Anna Kepner cruise ship death strong — used the words &quot;a much closer call&quot; with &quot;various defenses.&quot; The DNA match odds are 120 sextillion to one. An FBI agent testified he cannot connect that DNA to cause of death. Defense attorney Eric Faddis evaluates what the prosecution actually has heading into a September trial.

Anna Ke...
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Could Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s Mother Face Her Own Legal Exposure?
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Natalie Shirilla used a private coded language on recorded prison calls to communicate with her convicted daughter. Prosecutors decoded those calls and presented them as evidence at trial. In one exchange, Mackenzie allegedly asked if they could tell police she had a seizure. On a separate call, Natalie called the Russo family — the family of the man Mackenzie was convicted of killing — &quot;evil p...
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Can Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s Prison Behavior Keep Her Locked Up Longer?
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Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s conduct file at the Ohio Reformatory for Women has thirty-six entries in less than three years — guilty on thirty-two. On recorded prison calls, she refuses rehabilitation, calls herself the third victim, and talks about becoming a life coach. Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down what the parole board does with a record like this.

Shirilla was con...
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The Crash: The Full Psychological Breakdown of the Mackenzie Shirilla Case
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The courtroom saw a cold-blooded killer. Netflix saw a documentary. The public saw a debate. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott sees a clinical case that was never properly examined — and a system that convicted a teenager of premeditated murder without ever asking the questions a clinician would have started with.

Scott has spent more than thirty years in forensic mental health, domestic violence ...
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The Crash: Is Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s Memory Loss Real — And What About Everyone Else&#39;s Certainty?
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A fellow inmate says the Mackenzie Shirilla in the Netflix documentary — soft-spoken, remorseful, insisting she can&#39;t remember — isn&#39;t the person she spent six months with in prison. She described someone doing her makeup, playing social games, navigating the hierarchy. The prosecution says she&#39;s been performing from day one. The families say she knows exactly what happened and chooses not to s...
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The Crash: Why the Mackenzie Shirilla Relationship Matters More Than the Video
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Everyone&#39;s focused on the surveillance footage — the car turning, accelerating, hitting the wall. But psychotherapist Shavaun Scott says the real evidence in the Mackenzie Shirilla case isn&#39;t on that video. It&#39;s in the relationship. And the prosecution used the relationship as a weapon without ever understanding what it was actually showing them.

Shirilla was convicted of four counts of murder...
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The Crash: What the Prosecution Got Wrong About Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s Psychology
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A judge called Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s actions &quot;controlled, methodical, deliberate, intentional, and purposeful.&quot; Five adjectives that describe a cold, calculating mind. But what if every one of those words is a misread — what if the behavior that looked like calculation was actually the opposite?

Shavaun Scott is a psychotherapist who has spent more than thirty years working with people on both ...
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The Crash: A Defense Attorney&#39;s Full Breakdown of the Mackenzie Shirilla Disaster
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The Mackenzie Shirilla case is a catalog of failures. A defense that raised a medical condition and never proved it. A prosecution that charged murder without a confession and won in front of a single judge. A post-conviction system that rejected new evidence over a calendar technicality. And a defendant who agreed to a Netflix documentary that gave her critics more ammunition than her supporte...
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The Crash: What Should Mackenzie Shirilla Be Doing Right Now to Get Out?
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Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s legal options are essentially gone. The conviction stands. The appeals are exhausted. The post-conviction petition was denied. She&#39;s serving fifteen years to life and won&#39;t see a parole board until 2037. So the question shifts from &quot;can she win legally&quot; to &quot;what does she do now&quot; — and criminal defense attorney Bob Motta says the answer to that question matters more than mos...
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The Crash: Was Murder the Right Charge for Mackenzie Shirilla?
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Murder requires intent. Not recklessness. Not negligence. Not bad judgment. Intent — formed beforehand and carried out deliberately. That&#39;s the bar the prosecution set for itself when it charged Mackenzie Shirilla with four counts of murder for the crash in Strongsville, Ohio that killed Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. And criminal defense attorney Bob Motta says the evidence doesn&#39;t clear i...
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The Crash: What Should Mackenzie Shirilla&#39;s Defense Have Actually Looked Like?
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If Mackenzie Shirilla had walked into Bob Motta&#39;s office instead of her actual attorney&#39;s, the case might look very different right now. That&#39;s not speculation — it&#39;s a function of what was missed, what was never pursued, and what was fumbled at every critical turn.

The POTS defense should have been the centerpiece of the trial. A medical condition that can cause sudden loss of consciousness i...
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Why Did The Sheriff Stop Talking To Nancy Guthrie&#39;s Family?
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In mid-May, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos confirmed in a People magazine interview that his department is no longer communicating directly with Nancy Guthrie&#39;s family. The FBI is now the sole liaison between the investigation and the Guthries. The same sheriff who stood at his podium in February and told the family he wasn&#39;t giving up is, three months later, not in direct contact with them at...
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The Crash: How Many Things Went Wrong in the Mackenzie Shirilla Case?
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A defense attorney who never called the key medical expert. A post-conviction petition filed one day late. A bench trial where one judge made every decision. A neurologist&#39;s opinion that was never weighed on its merits. The Mackenzie Shirilla case isn&#39;t just about whether she intended to drive her car into that building — it&#39;s about how many things in the process broke along the way.

Shirilla ...
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The Crash: Is Mackenzie Shirilla Lying About Her Memory or Is Everyone Else?
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A fellow inmate who spent six months with Mackenzie Shirilla says the woman in Netflix&#39;s The Crash — the one speaking softly from prison, expressing remorse, insisting she has no memory — isn&#39;t the person she lived with behind bars. She described someone doing her makeup, navigating the prison social hierarchy, performing a version of herself. So which Mackenzie is real? The documentary Mackenz...
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The Crash: How Strong Is the Case Against Mackenzie Shirilla Really?
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One judge. No jury. No deliberation room. No twelve people wrestling with reasonable doubt. The Mackenzie Shirilla murder conviction was decided by a single person in a bench trial — and in a case with evidence this ambiguous, that raises a question the system doesn&#39;t want to answer.

Judge Nancy Margaret Russo heard the surveillance footage evidence, the black box data, the text messages, and ...
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The Crash: Was Mackenzie Shirilla Convicted for Her Personality?
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At her arrest, Mackenzie Shirilla asked the officers to be careful with her bracelets — gifts from Dominic Russo, the boyfriend who&#39;d been killed in her car three months earlier. The prosecution called it evidence of someone cold enough to plan a murder. But is that really what that moment tells you — or is it telling you something else entirely about a seventeen-year-old in shock?

That gap — ...
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What Kind Of People Are Behind Guthrie, Kepner And Murdaugh?
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What kind of person does each of these cases point to? That&#39;s the behavioral question two FBI veterans take on in this long-form segment. Tony Brueski is joined by retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer — with former FBI Counterintelligence chief Robin Dreeke&#39;s behavioral lens in the room — to read the people at the center of three very different stories.

There&#39;s the masked figure who...
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Could One Person Really Have Killed Both Murdaughs Alone?
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Could one person really have killed both Maggie and Paul Murdaugh by himself? That&#39;s the question two FBI veterans take apart in this segment — and one of them carried a weapon on FBI SWAT for two decades, so she knows exactly what firing a shotgun at close range does to the person pulling the trigger. With Alex Murdaugh&#39;s convictions overturned and a new trial ordered, the original defense the...
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What Was Anna Kepner&#39;s Stepbrother Doing At That Door?
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Two FBI veterans watched the same cruise-ship footage everyone&#39;s now read about, and what they see is a person behaving like someone with something to hide. In the Anna Kepner case, unsealed records describe the 18-year-old&#39;s stepbrother on camera the night she died — cracking the cabin door, checking the hallway in both directions before slipping out. Later, when Anna&#39;s younger brother tried t...
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Two former FBI agents look at the same forty-one minutes and see something most people miss. In the Nancy Guthrie case, a masked figure approached the front door of an 84-year-old woman&#39;s Tucson home in the dead of night and appeared to tamper with her camera. At 1:47 a.m. the doorbell feed died. At 2:12 the software still caught a person there. By 2:28, the pacemaker inside her chest had lost ...
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What Does A Forensic Psychologist See In D4VD&#39;s Path To The Celeste Rivas Hernandez Case?
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Shavaun Scott doesn&#39;t start where most people start with this case. She starts in a closet in Houston — where a homeschooled teenager with no peer socialization and no music in the house except gospel was recording tracks that would reach millions. She works forward from there because the forensic psychology question isn&#39;t what allegedly happened to Celeste Rivas Hernandez. It&#39;s what allegedly ...
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Why Did Richard Allen Go From &quot;I Didn&#39;t Do It&quot; To Sixty Confessions In The Delphi Case?
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The behavioral shift is the center of the Delphi appeal. Before solitary confinement, Richard Allen sat across from Detective Holeman during the arrest interrogation and — according to defense filings — was lied to for over an hour. Allen&#39;s answer: &quot;I am not going to say something I did not do.&quot; That was the man who walked into Westville.

Thirteen months later, he was a different person. IDOC&#39;...
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What Does A Former FBI Agent See When She Tests The Wrench Attack Theory On Nancy Guthrie?
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Jennifer Coffindaffer has 28 years of FBI experience and has worked the kinds of organized crime operations that wrench attack proponents believe may explain what happened to Nancy Guthrie. She takes the theory seriously enough to examine it honestly — and seriously enough to name where the evidence stops.

A wrench attack is a physically violent crypto-extortion operation run by organized netw...
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Why Did The Kouri Richins Investigation Stall Until A PI Stepped In?
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Deputy Jayme Woody acknowledged on the stand that the criminal investigation into Eric Richins&#39; death had stalled by fall 2022. Meanwhile, Todd Gabler — a private investigator with 34 years exclusively on the defense side — was already ahead of the people with badges.

Gabler had identified the woman prosecutors say sourced the fentanyl. He&#39;d flagged her criminal history. He was handing evidenc...
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What Did The FBI See In The Pattern Before Anna Kepner Was Killed On A Cruise Ship?
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Prosecutors say Timothy Hudson killed Anna Kepner &quot;without any warning.&quot; Jennifer Coffindaffer spent 28 years at the FBI and wants to know why they&#39;d use that language when the public record suggests something very different.

Anna&#39;s ex-boyfriend reportedly told investigators Hudson tried to climb on top of her during a FaceTime call. He was allegedly fixated on her. He reportedly wanted to dat...
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Why Did An ISP Trooper Get Shut Down When He Flagged A Delphi Suspect?
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According to the defense&#39;s appellate filings, an ISP Trooper found &quot;concerning similarity&quot; between the Delphi murders and a suspect who had been flagged repeatedly by tipsters for posting images of dead girls with sticks over their bodies on social media. He pushed for further investigation. His superiors said no.

This same suspect, according to the filings, sat across from investigators four ...
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Why Did The Kouri Richins Investigation Stall Until A PI Stepped In?
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 Deputy Jayme Woody acknowledged on the stand that the criminal investigation into Eric Richins&#39; death had stalled by fall 2022. Meanwhile, Todd Gabler — a private investigator with 34 years exclusively on the defense side — was already ahead of the people with badges.

Gabler had identified the woman prosecutors say sourced the fentanyl. He&#39;d flagged her criminal history. He was handing eviden...
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An 84-year-old woman allegedly stolen from her own bed in the middle of the night — and almost immediately, the investigation meant to find her started falling apart from the inside.

The crime scene was released too early. A thermal imaging plane sat grounded because its pilot had been reassigned over a personal grudge. The lead sergeant on the initial response reportedly had no homicide exper...
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What Does It Mean When The FBI Takes Over Communication With Nancy Guthrie&#39;s Family?
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In 28 years at the FBI, Jennifer Coffindaffer has seen what happens between local sheriffs and the Bureau when an investigation is running well — and what happens when something has broken down. The communication shift in the Nancy Guthrie case tells her something specific.

Sheriff Chris Nanos confirmed he&#39;s no longer speaking directly with Nancy Guthrie&#39;s family. The FBI is now the sole point...
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Todd Gabler had spent 34 years working one side of the courtroom — every case for the defense. Then Eric Richins&#39; family called about a civil matter and the phone records pulled in the first few weeks made staying in that lane impossible.

Constant contact between Kouri Richins and a housekeeper with a criminal record and active drug court failures — in the months surrounding Eric&#39;s death. Law ...
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Kepner, Adelson, Birchmore: Why Does The System Keep Failing?
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What does it take for the justice system to actually hold someone — and why does that bar seem to move from case to case? We put three of the most talked-about cases in true crime in front of a defense attorney and former prosecutor and asked him to connect them.

In Anna Kepner&#39;s case, our guest explains how a judge can concede that an adult would be jailed and still leave a young defendant fr...
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What Was Todd Gabler Finding While Police Were Doing Nothing on the Kouri Richins Case?
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The Sheriff&#39;s Office investigation stalled. Todd Gabler&#39;s didn&#39;t. While law enforcement sat on a case that wasn&#39;t moving, Gabler was the one pulling phone records before they knew where to look. He was the one tracking vehicles while the investigation gathered dust. He was the one searching the home for days after police released it. And he did all of it while operating under rules that gave hi...
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Is Farwell&#39;s Defense Already Losing The Birchmore Case?
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When a defense team loses every major motion before trial even starts, what does that tell you about where the case is headed? In the prosecution of former Stoughton officer Matthew Farwell, we asked an attorney and legal analyst to read the signs.

Sandra Birchmore, twenty-three and pregnant, was found dead in 2021 in a death first ruled a suicide. Prosecutors say Farwell killed her and staged...
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Could Wendi Adelson&#39;s Own Testimony Get Her Charged?
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Wendi Adelson took the stand in the Dan Markel murder case more than once, and every time she did, she had a safety net: limited immunity. So could the very testimony meant to protect her become the thing that finally exposes her? We asked a defense attorney and former prosecutor to break it down.

The Markel case is one of the most-watched murder-for-hire sagas in the country. An FSU law profe...
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What Did The Judge Admit About Anna Kepner&#39;s Accused Killer?
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What does it actually take to convince a court that a defendant is too dangerous to be free? In Anna Kepner&#39;s case, a federal judge said out loud that an adult facing these charges would almost certainly be jailed — and then declined to order it. We brought in a criminal defense attorney to explain what that contradiction really signals.

Anna, eighteen, died aboard a Carnival cruise while trav...
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Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott has spent more than thirty years in forensic mental health studying what creates the conditions for violence — not just the act, but the accumulation of failures that allegedly precede it. On Hidden Killers Live, she applies that expertise to three cases simultaneously. In the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, she examines the perpetrator’s mind — what months of silence...
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Six weeks before he took the stand, surgeons fused vertebrae in Todd Gabler&#39;s neck with titanium rods. He walked into court on a cane. He told the judge he&#39;d taken a Tylenol that morning and nothing else — no prescribed pain medication — because he wanted absolute clarity for his testimony. Nobody asked him to do that. He chose it.

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David Anthony Burke went from recording on an iPhone in his sister’s closet to touring internationally for Interscope Records in roughly two years. By twenty, prosecutors allege he’s responsible for the death of fourteen-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez and the alleged concealment of evidence that followed. He has pleaded not guilty. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott brings more than three decades ...
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Shauntel Hudson sits at the center of the Anna Kepner case in a position no one can fully comprehend. She is the biological mother of Timothy Hudson, the sixteen-year-old charged as an adult with first-degree murder in Anna’s death. She is the stepmother of Anna Kepner, the eighteen-year-old who was killed. And she shares a home and a marriage with Anna’s father, Christopher Kepner. Court filin...
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The DNA recovered from Nancy Guthrie’s Tucson home is at the FBI lab in Quantico. Genetic genealogy is reportedly being run. And the person who allegedly took this eighty-four-year-old woman from her home months ago has no way of knowing when that process will produce a name — only that it eventually can. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott brings more than three decades of forensic mental health exp...
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D4VD admitted in interview after interview that the emotions in his music weren’t real. He said they were constructed. Performed. Pulled from other people’s lives. We heard that as a charming origin story. According to prosecutors, it may have been something else entirely.

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Three cases. Three families. One attorney analyzing what happens when the system around a case starts breaking down.Bob Motta starts with Nancy Guthrie — what legal tools does the family have when the investigation has stalled, the sheriff&#39;s credibility is collapsing, and a retired detective believes the suspect&#39;s identity is already in the case files? Is there a legal mechanism to force an out...
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Todd Gabler gave the Summit County Sheriff&#39;s Office everything he found. The phone records connecting Kouri Richins to a housekeeper with a drug history. The GPS surveillance data. The interview summaries from nearly 50 conversations. Two hard drives of evidence. He handed it all over. They shared nothing in return. Police agencies, he testified at trial, are &quot;one-way streets.&quot;

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Every major pretrial ruling under Judge Ralph Wilson has gone the defense&#39;s way in Aaron Spencer&#39;s murder case. Wilson reversed the removed judge&#39;s restrictions on reputation witnesses. He allowed an FBI behavioral expert to testify. He left the door open on the defense&#39;s motion to dismiss based on law enforcement losing the dashcam SD card. And the June 22nd trial date is holding.Criminal defe...
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How does a defense attorney build a case when the camera allegedly captured everything? Timothy Hudson is sixteen years old, charged as an adult with first-degree murder, facing life in federal prison. His trial was just pushed to September 8th. And he is reportedly on camera as the only person who entered and left that stateroom.Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta breaks down the behavioral an...
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