25 Aug 2019 | Australian & NZ Tesla Model 3 Deliveries Begin, NIO Deliveries Update and Question Of The Week Answers
Australian & NZ Tesla Model 3 Deliveries Begin! | Tesla Starts Selling Model 3 In Eastern Europe | NIO Delivered 673 ES6 In July| Shell Installs First ABB EV Fast Charger In Singapore | Tesla’s Supercharger Network Delivers Incredible 72 GWh Of Electricity In A Month | Question Of The Week Answers
Show #561
Good morning, good afternoon and good evening wherever you are in the world, welcome to EV News Daily for Sunday 25th August 2019. It’s Martyn Lee here and I go through every EV story to save you time.
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AUSTRALIAN & NZ TESLA MODEL 3 DELIVERIES BEGIN!
From Geoff Lowe, Director Infotools.com: "Hi Martyn, Just took delivery of one of the first two Model 3s in New Zealand. Another very happy looking chap started his induction just before me. I love it! Great delivery experience. I think the Tesla team were as excited as me!"
Aaron Green
@aaronrgreen: "Successful collection today at midday. We were the 5th NZ/AU car and 3rd performance. Just arrived in Hamilton have recorded all the experience so will edit and upload soon. Final stop Taupo tonight at destination hotel / charger."
From John Horblow in New Zealand, because as I've just done news on Australia I feel that I should read out his email from Thursday: "Hi Martyn. We use to live in the UK, the brits alway took notice of their fravorite nephew Australia but never mentioned little chap New Zealand. You mentioned fast chargers in Australia last week & have mentioned aussie a number of times in the past.
Have you ever checked out whats happening in NZ re our fast charger network?
Zoom in on the map and take a look at whats under construction in the capital Wellington...
p.s. NZ EV community is 95% 2nd hand Japaneese and UK Nissan Leaf"
TESLA STARTS SELLING MODEL 3 IN EASTERN EUROPE
"Tesla has announced its expansion to Eastern Europe and opened sales for the Model 3 in selected countries. Electric car buyers in Poland, Romania, Slovenia and Hungary may now order their Tesla online." reports Electrive: ""An open question also remains, where and how Tesla will service these electric cars as the announcement came as a tweet with just the basic information.However, the opening of a Tesla store in Budapest is planned, and people in Poland have been buying Teslas for some time. A view on the Tesla map shows an open service centre in Warsaw indeed and one in the Czech capital of Prague as well."
https://www.electrive.com/2019/08/25/tesla-starts-selling-model-3-in-eastern-europe/
NIO DELIVERED 673 ES6 IN JULY
"NIO is still producing the all-electric ES6 in very small numbers. In its debut month (June) 413 units were sold, while in July 673 units were delivered to customers." according to Pedro at PushEVs.com: "What makes the all-electric NIO ES6 special is its 84 kWh battery pack made with NCM 811 battery cells from CATL. The battery pack has an energy density of 170 Wh/kg, which puts it on pair with the Tesla Model 3 (estimated at 168 Wh/kg)."
https://pushevs.com/2019/08/24/nio-delivered-673-es6-in-july/
SHELL INSTALLS FIRST ABB EV FAST CHARGER IN SINGAPORE
"Shell subsidiary Greenlots has installed an ABB DC fast charger in Singapore, the first of 10 to be installed at Shell stations in the country over the next few months." says CHargedEVs magazine: "Greenlots CEO Brett Hauser said, “Greenlots and Shell have been exploring synergies since we were acquired earlier this year. This project demonstrates our collective commitment to enable electrified transportation around the world, specifically in Singapore, where Greenlots was founded, and bolsters Greenlots’s expansion in Southeast Asia. Supporting Shell’s EV charging network in Singapore is a logical extension of the work we’ve been doing there to provide charging solutions at home, at work, for fleets and on-the-go.”
However those chargers are just 50kW.
https://chargedevs.com/newswire/shells-greenlots-installs-first-abb-ev-fast-charger-in-singapore/
TESLA’S SUPERCHARGER NETWORK DELIVERS INCREDIBLE 72 GWH OF ELECTRICITY IN A MONTH
"Tesla has released a rare statistic about its Supercharger network. The automaker says that its fast-charging network delivered 72 GWh of electricity in just a month." says Fred at Electrek: "In 2014, about two years after the Supercharger network launched, Tesla had only delivered 10 GWh and could deliver about 72 MWh in a day. Over the last year, the Tesla Supercharger network has grown a lot, and the automaker now says that it can deliver 72 GWh in just a month."
https://electrek.co/2019/08/25/tesla-supercharger-delivered-incredible-72-gwh-electricity-month/
QUESTION OF THE WEEK ANSWERS
MSHunter • 4 hours ago
Charge by minute makes sense for rapid chargers as it encourages people to not use them if they can't use the full available speed that the DC charger can provide. Though a few ac chargers should be available at all CCS /chademo charging locations for hybrid and ac fast charging vehicles
Hitstirrer • 9 hours ago
On the subject of the supply of electrons at public access stations, it's clear to me that all supply should be charged by the number of kWh's delivered. And for access and payment to be by contactless bank card as the default method. If the app fans insist on messing around more then by all means pander to their fetish as an additional system. But under no circumstances should more rational people be forced to jump through those kinds of hoops.
alan baker • 1 day ago (edited)
Agree with the comment of prices on Electric charge ( electric supply) points they should display the price per KW, and also enable payment by a standard bank RFID card. Just like a petrol pump. BP are doing this at the charge points at their petrol stations.
Mark Fitzpatrick • 2 days ago
I like charging by kwh but in ohio usa they charge by minute. 25 to 35 cents for dc charging. Thats right chademo is going no were and doesnt have too. I have no proplem with our combined chargers we have . CCS/chademo. 500,000 plus people driving leafs. We cant just go to nissan and get a ccs port installed. I love that they are installing 200 new 100 kwh dc chargers. The new leaf plus can take up too 100 kw.
Stefan Weilhartner • 2 days ago
no, i don't agree with only paying for the kWh on a charging station. you have to consider that a charging station is expensive and therefor if someone parks it's car on it without charging you block the company that owns it from getting back the investment. an it is important that the company that makes these charging stations get back the investment as soon as possible to have fresh money to build more and better charging stations!
so everyone who parks on a charging spot, having an EV or not, charging or not has to pay the same amount of money per minute. and of course it should be expensive to park there so that no one blocks this spot. maybe around 5-10 euro per hour. on the other side the kWh then could be cheap - practically just forwarding the costs without benefit for the energy.
that would encourage the users from that spot to NOT block tha
ateeqn1985 • 3 days ago
Question of the week.. Although charging by kWh is more transparent, I wouldn't categorically rule out other approaches particularly on rapids., ie. To avoid PHEVs blocking rapids, BEVs charging >90% on rapid.
My home electricity bill comprises of a usage part and a fixed daily rate....not simply usage
Ashley Hill • 4 days ago (edited)
QOTW: disagree. The ongoing cost for a parking space is significant and some spaces are vastly more expensive to have an maintain due to security, multi level buildings etc.
As an example, we are having an issue here in Australia (Wollongong from memory) where Tesla is only leasing two of the parking spaces at a supercharger location and the other ones (4?) have general parking even though there are fitted with superchargers.
JOHN JOSEPH
In many States in the US, EV charging stations are NOT allowed to charge by the KWH by the State Government. Only electric utilities are allowed to sell electricity by the KWH.
My actual experience on Tesla superchargers shows that it is currently cheaper on the Tesla superchargers that charge by the minute.
Use A better route Planner and you will see, for example, that Ohio which is by the minute is cheaper than West Virginia, which is by the KWH on an interstate trip.
CHARLIE FOX
Thinking about the question of the week. I totally agree with paying for what an EV 'downloads' into the car. However, electricity pricing changes at different times of the day and seasonally. Those changes could literally mean that the location you are getting the power from needs to do essentially instantaneous pricing. I would imagine you need to observe the pricing as you charge with the idea that you might stop the charging (or automatically) if the price is going to shoot up for the electricity. People may not like this aspect unless an app makes it easy.
MARKUS LAFER
Hi Martyn,
There are too many single phase charging cars out there blocking charging ports if they pay only for kWh. Pay per time will push drivers to unplug after reaching 80%. By the way: is the unplugsticker.eu service known in UK too allowing to contact the owner anonymous and ask for releasing the charging port?
WALTER MACVANE
To understand why EV charging networks charge by the minute, you have to understand the background. In many jurisdictions there is only one Identity Who legally can sell electricity due to utility regulation. So in order to Deliver the energy required, they need to sell the service through infrastructure utilization. Whether that is a fee for parking or a fee for usage, as long as they are not directly selling Electricity. Some providers, in order to recuperate Energy costs, will charge higher rates for higher throughput.
So the question of the week should be reworded as: “ should governments change regulations so that energy can be sold directly to consumers by charging networks?”
EDUARD PERTINEZ
85% of petrol price in gas stations is pure petrol reselling, but then you are charged by many other things, such as convinience, service, servicing speed (amount of free pumps available), customer loyalty and many others.
That other variables can amount to 7% to 30% of total cost of refuelling, so it means that some stations charge you 4 times more for the same gas.
Quantity and time are simply constant one to the other in gas refuelling.
QUESTION OF THE WEEK
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