Blasphemy, Art, and the Law (Guest: Professor Brent Rodriguez-Plate)

Episode 8,  Feb 28, 2022, 11:00 PM

Did you know Cardinal Pell once sued the National Gallery of Victoria on a charge of blasphemy?  What does it mean for something to be blasphemous?  In this episode, Professor Brent Rodriguez-Plate joins me to talk about blasphemy in law, art, and religion.

The court case discussed is captioned Pell v The Council of the Trustees of the National Gallery of Victoria, [1998] 2 V.R. 391.  A 1998 note on the case by Bede Harris can be found in Volume 22(1) of the Melbourne University Law Review starting at page 217.

A photograph of Serrano's "Piss Christ" can be found at the artwork's own Wikipedia page:

You can find out more about Professor Rodriguez-Plate on his website, 

The Association for Public Religion in Intellectual Life has a new website at

The new Australian Journal of Law and Religion is at

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Theme Music: "Sunbeams in the Stained Glass" Oleksandr Viktorovych Lukyanenko, CC BY-SA 3.0 <>, via Wikimedia Commons