Can DPC save the rural health crisis?
Episode 5, Sep 24, 04:59 PM
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Fifteen years ago, family physician Lee Gross, MD, was running a small private practice in southwest Florida and struggling to stay afloat. Reimbursements were declining, administrative costs were rising, and Medicare requirements grew more burdensome each year. The turning point came when a small business owner approached him with an unusual proposal: since all the employees already saw Gross as their doctor, why not pay him directly to take care of them?
Music Credits
Medical Education by Art Media - stock.adobe.com
Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.
Introduction to DPC and Rural Health care Crisis (00:00:14) Overview of DPC, recent policy changes, and the episode’s focus on rural health care and DPC.
Dr. Lee Gross’s Background and Early Practice Challenges (00:00:52) Dr. Gross describes his medical background, move to Florida, and frustrations with traditional practice.
Electronic Medical Records and Medicare Barriers (00:01:53) Early adoption of EMR, government regulations, and financial penalties from Medicare.
Medicare Payment Cuts and Practice Sustainability (00:02:47) Struggles with declining reimbursements, attempts to find alternative revenue, and the unsustainable fee-for-service model.
Epiphany: Transition to Direct Primary Care (00:03:47) Realization that insuring primary care is inefficient; inspiration to start a subscription-based DPC model.
DPC Business Model Details (00:04:50) Explanation of DPC pricing, services, and the elimination of third-party billing.
DPC in Rural Florida: Practice Viability (00:05:22) Challenges of rural practice, patient volume, and how DPC enables sustainability with fewer patients.
DPC as a Rural Health care Solution (00:06:28) Discussion on why DPC fits rural areas and legislative efforts to promote it.
Telemedicine vs. DPC in Rural Settings (00:07:09) Limitations of telemedicine alone and the value of continuity with a known primary care doctor.
Cost Comparison: DPC vs. Federally Qualified Health Centers (00:08:57) Senate testimony on DPC’s cost-effectiveness and the administrative overhead of traditional models.
Introduction of Rural DPC Physicians (00:10:18) Transition to interviews with three rural DPC physicians.
Dr. Lee Gillum’s Background and DPC Journey (00:10:24) Dr. Gillum’s return to rural Tennessee, dissatisfaction with traditional practice, and switch to DPC.
Impact of DPC on Rural Community (00:11:45) How DPC has improved access for uninsured and underserved patients in rural areas.
DPC and Rural Practice Sustainability (00:12:33) Challenges for small practices, Medicaid/Medicare reimbursement, and how DPC enables survival.
Dr. Nehemiah Weimar: DPC in Rural Indiana (00:13:35) Dr. Weimar’s pediatric DPC practice, local hospital closures, and the importance of time in patient care.
Dr. Katie Worden Greer: DPC in Rural Oklahoma (00:15:19) Dr. Greer’s background, transition from tribal health to DPC, and building a practice in a small town.
Medicare Opt-Out Dilemma for DPC Doctors (00:16:51) Explanation of Medicare opt-out rules and the catch-22 for rural DPC physicians needing supplemental income.
Dr. Lee Gross on Medicare Opt-Out Policy (00:17:56) Gross discusses the risks and advocacy efforts to change Medicare opt-out requirements for DPC.
Dr. Lee Gillum on Medicare Challenges (00:19:25) Gillum shares his hybrid practice, difficulties with Medicare, and the impact on patient care and finances.
Administrative Burdens of Medicare (00:21:00) Discussion of data submission requirements, reduced payments, and the impact on small practices.
Balancing DPC and Community Roles (00:23:14) How DPC allows flexibility for rural doctors to serve multiple community roles.
DPC’s Role in Rebuilding Trust in Rural Health care (00:24:24) Importance of time and trust in rural communities, and how DPC addresses these needs.
Advice for Starting DPC in Rural Areas (00:25:25) Dr. Greer encourages physicians to consider DPC in rural settings and explains patient acceptance.
Future of Direct Care Model (00:26:31) Dr. Gross reflects on DPC’s growth, its challenges, and the hope it offers for younger physicians.
Podcast Conclusion (00:28:40) Host wraps up the episode, summarizing the stories and mission of the podcast.
Music Credits
Medical Education by Art Media - stock.adobe.com
Editor's note: Episode timestamps and transcript produced using AI tools.
Introduction to DPC and Rural Health care Crisis (00:00:14) Overview of DPC, recent policy changes, and the episode’s focus on rural health care and DPC.
Dr. Lee Gross’s Background and Early Practice Challenges (00:00:52) Dr. Gross describes his medical background, move to Florida, and frustrations with traditional practice.
Electronic Medical Records and Medicare Barriers (00:01:53) Early adoption of EMR, government regulations, and financial penalties from Medicare.
Medicare Payment Cuts and Practice Sustainability (00:02:47) Struggles with declining reimbursements, attempts to find alternative revenue, and the unsustainable fee-for-service model.
Epiphany: Transition to Direct Primary Care (00:03:47) Realization that insuring primary care is inefficient; inspiration to start a subscription-based DPC model.
DPC Business Model Details (00:04:50) Explanation of DPC pricing, services, and the elimination of third-party billing.
DPC in Rural Florida: Practice Viability (00:05:22) Challenges of rural practice, patient volume, and how DPC enables sustainability with fewer patients.
DPC as a Rural Health care Solution (00:06:28) Discussion on why DPC fits rural areas and legislative efforts to promote it.
Telemedicine vs. DPC in Rural Settings (00:07:09) Limitations of telemedicine alone and the value of continuity with a known primary care doctor.
Cost Comparison: DPC vs. Federally Qualified Health Centers (00:08:57) Senate testimony on DPC’s cost-effectiveness and the administrative overhead of traditional models.
Introduction of Rural DPC Physicians (00:10:18) Transition to interviews with three rural DPC physicians.
Dr. Lee Gillum’s Background and DPC Journey (00:10:24) Dr. Gillum’s return to rural Tennessee, dissatisfaction with traditional practice, and switch to DPC.
Impact of DPC on Rural Community (00:11:45) How DPC has improved access for uninsured and underserved patients in rural areas.
DPC and Rural Practice Sustainability (00:12:33) Challenges for small practices, Medicaid/Medicare reimbursement, and how DPC enables survival.
Dr. Nehemiah Weimar: DPC in Rural Indiana (00:13:35) Dr. Weimar’s pediatric DPC practice, local hospital closures, and the importance of time in patient care.
Dr. Katie Worden Greer: DPC in Rural Oklahoma (00:15:19) Dr. Greer’s background, transition from tribal health to DPC, and building a practice in a small town.
Medicare Opt-Out Dilemma for DPC Doctors (00:16:51) Explanation of Medicare opt-out rules and the catch-22 for rural DPC physicians needing supplemental income.
Dr. Lee Gross on Medicare Opt-Out Policy (00:17:56) Gross discusses the risks and advocacy efforts to change Medicare opt-out requirements for DPC.
Dr. Lee Gillum on Medicare Challenges (00:19:25) Gillum shares his hybrid practice, difficulties with Medicare, and the impact on patient care and finances.
Administrative Burdens of Medicare (00:21:00) Discussion of data submission requirements, reduced payments, and the impact on small practices.
Balancing DPC and Community Roles (00:23:14) How DPC allows flexibility for rural doctors to serve multiple community roles.
DPC’s Role in Rebuilding Trust in Rural Health care (00:24:24) Importance of time and trust in rural communities, and how DPC addresses these needs.
Advice for Starting DPC in Rural Areas (00:25:25) Dr. Greer encourages physicians to consider DPC in rural settings and explains patient acceptance.
Future of Direct Care Model (00:26:31) Dr. Gross reflects on DPC’s growth, its challenges, and the hope it offers for younger physicians.
Podcast Conclusion (00:28:40) Host wraps up the episode, summarizing the stories and mission of the podcast.