STARMER USES THE 'R' WORD - with Iain Dale

As we're bang in conference season I got political heavyweight Iain Dale to join me for a chat. We discuss Starmer calling Reform's new policy 'racist' and whether that - or indeed ID cards - will blow up in his face. We then turn to the Tories and ask 'What the hell could they do to make anyone care?' In the Patreon only section I respond to a bit of good old fashioned 'Woke gone mad' from a local football association.

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