The Odd Couple, sponsored by Baillie Gifford - John Humphrys recalls interviewing Prime Ministers, from Jim Callaghan to Andy Burnham

As Keir Starmer stands down, John Humphrys, the Rottweiler of the Today programme, tells Matthew Norman about the Prime Ministers he's interviewed - from Jim Callaghan to Andy Burnham, Starmer's expected successor. 
John reveals the time Margaret Thatcher outfoxed him and the day Tony Blair told him he was 'a pretty straight sort of guy'.

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