John Humphrys, the Rottweiler of the Today programme, argues with Oldie columnist Matthew Norman about defence spending

Episode 504  ·  Sep 11, 10:19 AM
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We're not at war, says John - so why waste money that could go to African aid? Russian attacks are increasing - and the Far Right is on the march - across Europe. So we must pay to keep them at bay, says Matthew.

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