WORK IS THIRD Dawn Hunter: Rebuilt Through Grief The Five Phases of Empathy With Michael Tennant

Season 2 Episode 2342 · Oct 04, 12:58 PM

(Airs 10/5/2026) Michael Tennant lost two of his older brothers in 2019, and somewhere inside that grief he found a way to actually feel his values instead of just naming them. This conversation is about empathy as a real skill, not a soft one. In this episode of Work Is Third, host Dawn Hunter talks with Michael Tennant, founder of Actually Curious and author of The Power of Empathy. We walk through his five-phase empathy model in real time, get into the difference between felt values and the ones we inherit without checking, and land on a couple of topics most circles are still too polite to touch. This conversation is a reminder that boundaries and empathy are infrastructure, not extras.

📚 Guest Info
• LinkedIn: / michael-tennant
• Instagram: / actuallyc_rious
📚 Resources Mentioned
• The Power of Empathy by Michael Tennant (Chronicle Books)
• Actually Curious, conversation card game (Culture Edition and Human Rights Edition referenced on the episode)
• Abundance, guided journal by Michael Tennant
• Franklin Covey's Circles of Concern, Influence, and Control
• Eric Moussambani's 2000 Sydney Olympics swim heat, • The Inspiring Determination of Eric Moussa...
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