Episode 15: Former Secretary of Defense Bob Gates

Secretary Bob Gates was Director of Central Intelligence under President George W. Bush, then Defense Secretary under both George W. Bush and Barack Obama. He is a recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Washington Post said he is "widely considered the best defense secretary of the post-World War II era." This conversation covers national security generally, and focuses on what it means to global oil to have the Russians setting up shop in the Middle East.