Being blind to gender is foolish - on Business Jazz Podcast

Jan 09, 2018, 05:06 PM

Note: This episode was live streamed via Periscope.

You hear Roger Overall in British Columbia, Canada - talking with Paul O'Mahony in his kitchen in Cork Ireland.

There's a short conversation about Canada, including reference to  First Nation people 

Then a few words about Jane Boyd.

Jane Boyd, a previous host ("leading lady") on Business Jazz, has lost her voice.

Somehow Paul & Roger started discussing gender ...

Gender balance is what Paul favours.

He's fed up of panels of man. [The Chinese Communist Party leadership is all men.]

  • "Is a business more attractive to you if ... 
  • "Who are the customers of the business? If you serve a mixed gender popular...

Able to put out messages from both segments of your 'target audience'..

  • "There can be some awful women - as well as some awful men...

Paul says "I hate stereotyping ... The women I've met pay more attention to detail

Gay men pay more attention to detail...

Boards of companies to be more representative ...

Roger - you could say I don't care ...

  • "I'd have to be some sort of rank idiot ...

  • "You could be a hard-nosed business person

  • "I want my daughter to self-actualise...

"Do you thank ?

  • "The problem is we agree with each other ... boring old liberals ...

Paul says:

  • "I'm going to adopt a position to draw you out:

Policy level ... asserting their own points of view

Women have been so excluded their ability to stand up for their point of view is weak ... Men get to shout women down ... 

it's a waste of time to put women on the Board..."

Our daughters are well able to express their points of view...

  • "All other things being equal I'd go for a dim women ... there would be a variety a dim people.

all sorts of different personalities

Belbin on team roles (1980s) ... not one particular types of 

Several types of intelligence

Q1 Why do I feel so strongly that diversity of gender is an advantage? Where's my evidence... 50/50 companies out perform

Iceland: Gabrella ... photography project feminisation of the banking culture ...

we need more of female approach ...

combat these male dominated institutions ...

Paul testosterone is the problem ...  

Men in suits got excited ... bankrupted the country

You might as well hand it over to women they couldn't do any worse

Your problem ...

men have more balls for ...

we don't have evidence of women in decision-making positions

I was only talking about Boardrooms

Women are the dominant force...

CEOs suffered from types of paranoia

We agree women are capable of making decisions

haven't had access to power & authority

women are capable of 'exercising the upper hand'

To be genuinely

you don't want to be accused of mysogeny

systematic

could be seen as a form of mysogeny.

Dismissing ...

A point of view - I don't recognise gender I only recognise talent

Paul has programmed himself to see gender balance & skin colour

Some say they're blind to gender ...

How do they mean that?

Roger was the only man among 40 people ... in a house...

Paul there's a fundamental problem in education - vast majority of e ch ed

I would favour quotas ...

absence of male role models results in negative consequences.

Gender quotas - Paul is in favour of quotas for parliament ...

This is different to any previous episode ...

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Paul the male

  • "You've been listening to two men debating the gender issue."