We touch base about how we are coping with isolation and talk authors online: launches, videos and the etiquette of fan-girling in a zoom session.
Then Kate speaks with writer, Sarah Bailey, about writing crime, routines and getting around procrastination.
We know you'll understand that this episode has a different quality of audio than you are used to from us. Eventually we'll get back to studio sound, but until then forgive us the odd crackle!
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