What Happens When a Coverup, a Car Crash, and Missing DNA All Point to the Same Problem?

In Lonoke County, Arkansas, a judge found that investigators' handling of evidence in Aaron Spencer's murder case was "so egregious" the prosecution had to be dismissed. The dashcam SD card that could have told the whole story was handled in violation of department policy and lost. Spencer, who killed the man accused of crimes against his daughter, was running for sheriff against the incumbent whose deputies mishandled the evidence. The court used the word "coverup."

In Strongsville, Ohio, Mackenzie Shirilla's car did what she wouldn't — it recorded the final seconds before she drove into a brick building at close to a hundred miles per hour, killing Dominic Russo and Davion Flanagan. She never talked to police. On monitored jail calls, she and her mother used a coded language that investigators cracked, allegedly revealing a plan to fabricate a seizure defense.

On the Carnival Horizon, the FBI built a case against Timothy Hudson using DNA that points to him with 120 sextillion-to-one certainty in the death of his eighteen-year-old stepsister, Anna Kepner. But the lead agent couldn't confirm under oath whether DNA was collected from Anna's neck — the area linked to the cause of her death. The judge allowed Hudson to remain free on bond.

Three investigations. Three evidence failures. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer and retired FBI Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program Chief Robin Dreeke join Tony Brueski for an extended conversation on what happens when the people tasked with delivering justice are the ones whose work breaks down — and what the FBI sees in each of these cases that the public doesn't.

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